So how big is a 226 lb hog

Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior MemberPosts: 1,551 Senior Member
A couple weeks back we got onto the topic of how some folks will exaggerate the weight of the critters they kill, especially wild hogs. This evening my oldest son dropped a nice 226 lb bore. On camera everyone was saying he was at least 275 lbs including my neighbor. Compliments of my youngest son who got me an 800 lb digital scale from Cabelas, we hooked it up to the bucket and tractor and lifted him for his weigh in. So folks this is what a 226 lb wild hog looks like!

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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 7,225 Senior Member
    Thanks for posting this, Jeff. That is very revealing, particularly for those of us who don't live near them, nor have never even seen (let alone hunted) for them. It makes the exaggerated claims we see on the news some time a lot easier to spot. Great job by your son scoring this one!
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • twatwa Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    That is a HOG!! NICE :beer:
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,701 Senior Member
    I reckon, just by looking at it, it would be 224Lb................But I deducted the weight of the gambrel and strap :tooth:

    Great score. Got any pics of his 'hooks' ?

    Would also be interested if he was hunted with dogs and 'stuck' or shot btw.

    ( If you think hunters exaggerate, come over and take a trip with me on the charter boat. Fishermen make hunters look like Angels when it comes to telling the truth!) :roll2:
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    I know (have read) on some other forums of hunting preserves that don't even weigh the animals on a scale. This allows the "hunters" to exaggerate to their hearts content and feel better about their "trophy".

    Without truth.........is it really a "lie"?

    :sarcasm:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 1,551 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    I reckon, just by looking at it, it would be 224Lb................But I deducted the weight of the gambrel and strap :tooth:

    Great score. Got any pics of his 'hooks' ?

    Would also be interested if he was hunted with dogs and 'stuck' or shot btw.

    ( If you think hunters exaggerate, come over and take a trip with me on the charter boat. Fishermen make hunters look like Angels when it comes to telling the truth!) :roll2:

    No pics of his cutters but they stuck out about inch and 1/2. We don't believe in hunting with dogs. This hog was fairly regular on the cameras the last two weeks. Winds were blowing hard out of the north which hampers most of our stands as they're all set up for south winds. He played it smart and walked the far south perimeter fence line and set up on him. The feeder was north west of his set up and the hog showed up like clock work. He dropped the hog with a 50 yard shot from his .243 shooting a 95 gr ballistic tip. Shot through the eye, he dropped like a rock.
    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

    John 3: 1-21
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,897 Senior Member
    So, how heavy is it dressed and skinned?
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  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,701 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    No pics of his cutters but they stuck out about inch and 1/2. We don't believe in hunting with dogs. This hog was fairly regular on the cameras the last two weeks. Winds were blowing hard out of the north which hampers most of our stands as they're all set up for south winds. He played it smart and walked the far south perimeter fence line and set up on him. The feeder was north west of his set up and the hog showed up like clock work. He dropped the hog with a 50 yard shot from his .243 shooting a 95 gr ballistic tip. Shot through the eye, he dropped like a rock.

    Excellent. Sounds like your son had a good teacher.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    People sometimes ask me how big the elk was on years that I get one.

    I usually say.
    I don't know, they're big as horse. Filled up a the whole freezer.
    They look at me funny sometimes. I don't care. What am I supposed ta say?
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,258 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    Fishermen make hunters look like Angels when it comes to telling the truth!) :roll2:

    Yep, I caught a bass once that broke the tailgate chains on my pickup- - - - -the picture weighed 14 pounds!
    :jester:
    Jerry
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,089 Senior Member
    All fishermen are liars, except you and me. And sometimes I have my doubts about you! :tooth:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 7,225 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    No pics of his cutters but they stuck out about inch and 1/2. We don't believe in hunting with dogs. This hog was fairly regular on the cameras the last two weeks. Winds were blowing hard out of the north which hampers most of our stands as they're all set up for south winds. He played it smart and walked the far south perimeter fence line and set up on him. The feeder was north west of his set up and the hog showed up like clock work. He dropped the hog with a 50 yard shot from his .243 shooting a 95 gr ballistic tip. Shot through the eye, he dropped like a rock.

    Very well played on his part. I know guys who simply sit a given stand come hell or high water and regardless of the wind conditions, then go on to complain about why they never see anything at that spot. Worse, those same guys usually never scout, so they have no idea that they're putting their stink right where the animals used to enter the field...
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
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    A hog is dense and a small one is heavy. But not as heavy as we think when we see them or handle them. A 226 pound hog feels like it weighs 326.

    If you have to drag that thing very far you'll think it weighs 400. I think that's a big reason people over estimate their size.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,528 Senior Member
    When I shot mine they had a scale built into the winch that lifted them up onto the swamp buggy. Out of our group mine looked very large and not knowing hogs i was thinking 400lbs or better. As its feet cleared the ground the scale said 240 lbs which was less than what i weighed at the time. Knowing how hard it was to move I knew that I needed to lose weight.

    Congratulations to your Son
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,551 Senior Member
    I've estimated several to be 150-175 that looked similar, but not as long. The extra length adds more weight than I would have expected.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,478 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I know (have read) on some other forums of hunting preserves that don't even weigh the animals on a scale. This allows the "hunters" to exaggerate to their hearts content and feel better about their "trophy".

    Without truth.........is it really a "lie"?

    :sarcasm:


    This reminds me of a story one of my uncles used to tell. In the late 40s and early 50s, he worked at a little store in Juno, Tx. Juno is not much more than a wide spot in the road between Ozona and Del Rio. The Devils River flows nearby.

    Any way, some guy came in with a large catfish he had recently caught, and wanted it weighed. They hunt it on the scale, and it went 99 lbs. The guy wanted my uncle to claim it weight 100 lbs., but my uncle refused. It made the guy made because he wanted to be able to brag about catching a 100 lb. fish and have someone to back him up.

    [ETA] Where are my manners? Nice porker and great post!
    Jerry

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
    We all want to kill the biggest freaking hog on the planet. That also fertilizes our imaginations (And I do mean fertilize, as in BS). I used to hear the BS Stories some guy would be telling at work about the 500 pound Hogzilla he killed with a 22 single shot and I couldn't wait to get back in the field after one. But after killing and having seen killed several that looked to be that big on the hoof, only to have the air let out of the bubble when weighed and they were half that weight, I realized I had been BSed. As Zee said, if there's one out there that big, he has been on a special feeding program.

    But also, another point. The few I've seen go 300 or better weren't fit for the Buzzards. Nowadays, I'll take a 200-250 pounder any day. Boars smell anyway, and the bigger they are the more that smell has permeated the meat. And while a 225 pound boar is usually still good to eat, a 100-150 pound sow is very much better. The very best eating hog I ever killed was a 90-100 pound sow. I didn't weigh it but this is a pretty close guestimation. That hog had an inch of beautiful white fat all over it. The thing, when cooked, tasted like store bought domestic pork. I had shot it to make sausage but the only parts of that hog that went into sausage were the usual tough parts and we ate most of that thing to the last bite as pork chops, roast, and most of this BBQed. If that would have been a big boar, it would have all gone to sausage or chilli meat.

    So nowadays if I shoot at a bunch of hogs, I'll always pick the smaller ones, unless, of course, a big bore is the only thing out there.

    But we all need to take some big boars out of the heard, because they are breeding stock and if we don't we will surely be overrun with hogs.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    So, how heavy is it dressed and skinned?

    Ned, for a big hog like the one here, I would say he would lose fifty pounds removing his skin and innards and maybe more. A big hog's skin alone is pretty heavy, to say nothing of his head.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Nice boar ... its funny how our NC ferals differ in body structure versus their wild cousins. That one looks like a War Boar where our are more like domestic Porky Pig.

    @Snake ... we go for sows first to keep them from throwing a litter of 8+ piglets twice a year (and occasionally three times). No matter how many we take male or female, baby or big uns, etc I swear the population is still growing. SHOOT THEM ALL!
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    - George Orwell
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,017 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I know (have read) on some other forums of hunting preserves that don't even weigh the animals on a scale. This allows the "hunters" to exaggerate to their hearts content and feel better about their "trophy".

    Without truth.........is it really a "lie"?

    :sarcasm:

    "If you tell a lie often enough, it becomes truth" ...... Bill and Hillary Clinton.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
    NCFUBAR wrote: »
    Nice boar ... its funny how our NC ferals differ in body structure versus their wild cousins. That one looks like a War Boar where our are more like domestic Porky Pig.

    @Snake ... we go for sows first to keep them from throwing a litter of 8+ piglets twice a year (and occasionally three times). No matter how many we take male or female, baby or big uns, etc I swear the population is still growing. SHOOT THEM ALL!

    Oh yeah NCFUBAR, you are absolutely correct. Their populations will grow unless you put on a real strong area wide push to lower their numbers. I've said this before on here, but out where I hunt a year before I got on the place, the guy that was leasing one of the rice fields just to the West of our hunting gate put up four towers around the rice field just across the road from our gate. They killed over 160 hogs that summer out of that rice field from those towers using night vision at night.

    For three years I saw about 20 hogs total, each year a few more. Though I still managed to kill a few in the first three years, this year is the first year I have seen big numbers of hogs at one time. I've seen it coming because each year I would see a few more running together and could see more evidence of rutting hogs.

    So, you can kill them down, but unless you keep the pressure on every year, they're going to come back in Spades.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Snake, my mother told me of a very large hog she saw killed, She had no idea how much it weighed, however, they could not eat it, as soon as it was opened, it stank badly enough to convince her it had rotted on the hoof while it was still alive !
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  • HAWKENHAWKEN Senior Member Posts: 1,685 Senior Member
    Congratulations to your son Jeff, he has done well. I killed several, when I lived in Florida, and I agree that the smaller ones taste best. I like them 60 to 125 pounds. I killed two that were over 300 pounds and they went into sausage. How bad they smell is partially controlled by what they have been eating and the bigger they are, the worse they smell...........robin
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