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JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior MemberPosts: 6,557 Senior Member
Trump has good momentum on his path to the general election. He's been fairly consistent so far with double-digit percentage wins.

Love him or hate him he appealed to the country at a time of great disparity. And it's working.
“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers

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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,396 Senior Member
    Stupid has overtaken the electorate. Scuze me, I have to go apologize to my kids.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I'll be glad when Super Tuesday is over.

    I have been supporting Trump from early on to the consternation of many on here. I still do and enjoy my freedom as an American Citizen to do just that.

    Polls are wonderful, unless our pick isn't favored in them.

    Now I sorta know how Alpha feels to be outnumbered on here, well a little bit anyhow :tooth:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I'll be glad when Super Tuesday is over.

    I have been supporting Trump from early on to the consternation of many on here. I still do and enjoy my freedom as an American Citizen to do just that.

    Polls are wonderful, unless our pick isn't favored in them.

    Now I sorta know how Alpha feels to be outnumbered on here, well a little bit anyhow :tooth:

    Trump has some redeeming qualities about him. His ego, bragging, and snottiness are no among them.

    He talks a good game. But he's yet to prove to me even with a preponderance of facts that he can walk the walk or even has a PLAN.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I think it will all fall into place. And I agree he can be a stinker and I'm not sure about his strategy, but it seems to be working for him.

    No he certainly isn't my idy of a perfect candidate, but his positives outweigh his negatives to me compared to the others.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    I think it will all fall into place. And I agree he can be a stinker and I'm not sure about his strategy, but it seems to be working for him.

    No he certainly isn't my idy of a perfect candidate, but his positives outweigh his negatives to me compared to the others.

    Chief, for the sake of this country, I pray you're right. It looks like Trump just about has the R nomination wrapped up.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'll say it again. By far the smartest and has his own team of world class marketing consultants making sure he's got a true wining strategy with the public. NOT the party, or media, or government or political machine. Look for his tone to start dialing down slowly and the vitriol to start shifting to Hillary within the next few weeks. Even Megan Kelly is starting to soften up on him. Called him smart and witty last night. THIS is JUST business and he is VERY good at it...

    You know what made Reagan such an effective President? He had the PEOPLE on his side for the 8 years he was in office. Nullified the opposition every time.

    :win: :win: :win:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    Chief, for the sake of this country, I pray you're right. It looks like Trump just about has the R nomination wrapped up.

    I think he just might pull it off. Despite all the political pundits predicting his demise and party hacks like Karl Rove (and many others) spewing vitriol against Trump from day one.

    This election cycle has had some unexpected dynamics for sure.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Yep, Wambli Trump said the Pantsuit is gonna get his full attention (wrath?) if he wins the nomination.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 902 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    If he follows a tight business strategy he will be doing it before he wins the nomination as soon as his numbers show the right mix his way. It eliminates all press focus on his competition within the party by shifting the media focus to him and Hillary almost exclusively, leaving the leftovers struggling for a mention anywhere. For those educated in business psychology this is a well known tactic. The first time he calls Hillary a criminal and liar, Rubido and Cruz will fade from every news outlet and no one will care about their tax plans. We are well beyond platform anyway...

    Quite frankly it's refreshing to see a real business guy running. His roadmap to the White House I understand clearly.

    Bingo, I think you hit the nail on the head. I believe he is a smarter business man than the political pundits or media gave he credit. He has some very smart advisers working for him and has a plan for his accomplishment to get nominated. Rush and several others have made comments about this and he has outsmarted Carl Rove and other pundits that think they are so smart. He is winning a greater percentage of all groups than any of the other candidates. He is also smart enough to get more free media coverage without spending his money.

    I believe that Rubio is going to have problems along with Cruz with many of the articles I have been reading lately, with credibility and lack of real experience of accomplishments, especially with Rubio in the Senate. I bet he does not even win FL.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Trump has some redeeming qualities about him. His ego, bragging, and snottiness are no among them.

    He talks a good game. But he's yet to prove to me even with a preponderance of facts that he can walk the walk or even has a PLAN.

    Trump is not my favorite, but right now I'm wondering who that is now? I like Carson, but he has fallen so far behind I can't imagine anything but a Miracle bringing him back. I like Rubio ok and I really like Cruz. But I think Rubio is a bit more electable than Cruz. Now after Super Tuesday Maybe some more will drop out. If Cruz or Rubio would drop out, I'm thinking the other might get enough votes to over take Trump, but I don't know. Like one talk show host said, there votes would probably be evenly distributed among the remaining candidates which would not put anybody over the top to beat Trump. If Kashich or Carson drop out it will be interesting to see who gets the majority of their votes. But I'm thinking Trump is the one. Now all you Trump haters may have some heavy thinking to do coming up. Hopefully you've already thought this over and have a plan in mind. Will you hold your nose and vote for Trump? Or stay home or Go Turd Party and give the election to the Dems? Which will pretty well screw your gun rights, all to make a point.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    I think one thing the bodes well for Trump and the repubs in general is the voter turnout. The Rs are getting record #s and the Ds are getting very low turnout.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Trump has some redeeming qualities about him. His ego, bragging, and snottiness are no among them.

    He talks a good game. But he's yet to prove to me even with a preponderance of facts that he can walk the walk or even has a PLAN.

    Jason, I really believe all his bragging and egotistical comments are by design. It's getting attention and it has some intimidation factor to the other candidates. I'm beginning to think that everything Trump does, he does for a reason. Now, if he gets elected if he can apply that to the job, we will have one hell of a president. I think I've been listening to BC too much,

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Neither Rubio or Cruz will get ONE Democrat vote, they are looked as too conservative by the masses. Trump's enemies are all in the ultra-right wing of the spectrum, a rather small percentage of the population (they are all here :tooth:). Trump is angling for the centrist and The old guard Conservative Democrat vote just like Reagan did and THAT is one BIG voting block. Life is just one big Excel spreadsheet...

    Wambli, you have an uncanny way of figuring this stuff out. I have to agree. I also think there's a lot like me out there that aren't overly enthused with Trump but will vote for him in the General Election because we believe anything is better than a Dummycrap!. Also, I think one big factor in Trump's popularity is most people don't trust politicians no matter what they say. Especially after the 2012 elections when so many Repubs ran on a promise of doing away with Obama Care and several other issues Obama gave us, and they never came through. Chief among them were guys like Boehner and McConnell. People are just sick of their BS. We, yeah me included, don't trust very many that have held office before.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    To say that Trump is not a politician is pure non-sense. He is the quintessential politician, and is demonstrating his skill in that field now. You can call it a business model or anything else you want, but it's politics pure and simple.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,640 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    ...most people don't trust politicians no matter what they say.

    :win::win::win:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • john.41john.41 Member Posts: 316 Member
    This was written before Iowa, and to me describes why people are supporting Donald Trump. I'm sorry for not having the authors name.

    "Who is Donald Trump?" The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?" The answer? A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.

    Some Trump supporters are like the 60s white girls who dated black guys just to annoy their parents. But most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demo-socialists and the "Republicans In Name Only." They know there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.

    Ben Carson is not an "establishment" candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson; and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) be tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse. Besides - lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things. Stranger things have happened (the nation elected an[islamo-]Marxist in 2008 and Bruce Jenner now wears designer dresses.)

    Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014, and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?

    Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.

    No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates [dems or reps] will slash federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation's major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.

    Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:

    · Anyone named Bush
    · Anyone named Clinton
    · Anyone who's held political office
    · Political correctness
    · Illegal immigration
    · Massive unemployment
    · Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures
    · Welfare waste and fraud
    · People faking disabilities to go on the dole
    · VA waiting lists
    · TSA airport groping
    · ObamaCare
    · The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes
    · Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine
    · Michelle Obama's vacations
    · Michelle Obama's food police
    · Barack Obama's golf
    · Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures
    · Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America
    · Valerie Jarrett
    · "Holiday trees"
    · Hollywood hypocrites
    · Global warming nonsense
    · Cop killers
    · Gun confiscation threats
    · Stagnant wages
    · Boys in girls' bathrooms
    · Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century... and that's just the short list.

    Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, "Screw you, Hillary Rodham Rove Bush!" The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier. All the others argue that the voters will eventually "come to their senses" and support an establishment candidate.)

    But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts - and neither Rodham nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it. Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won't hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

    "How dare they revolt!" the "elites" are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. "But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!" That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved "Maverick" McCain down GOP throats in 2008 - knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America's greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both - and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.

    Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wander[ing] through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; all the world's glaciers are not melting; and Rosie O'Donnell is a fat pig.

    Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city's water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don't care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations. While Attorney General Loretta Lynch's greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed [islamic] lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.

    The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.

    You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016, … [their] cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we've seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Whether it is Bush's Karl Rove or Clinton's John Podesta, who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little. If the establishment wins, America loses.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,640 Senior Member
    Now THAT is the best write-up I've read - and is completely in accord with my feelings.

    And from my perspective, the writer did miss one important thing: Trump isn't a Bible Thumper! He's not a "true believer" of any kind - such as we have right now - he's pragmatic. That's what we NEED. "Captain Obvious!"
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Thanks for posting John, interesting read. I think I saw that someplace before, but like you don't recall the author.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,669 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Now THAT is the best write-up I've read - and is completely in accord with my feelings.

    And from my perspective, the writer did miss one important thing: Trump isn't a Bible Thumper! He's not a "true believer" of any kind - such as we have right now - he's pragmatic. That's what we NEED. "Captain Obvious!"
    I agree with you and mister john.41.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,396 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Now THAT is the best write-up I've read - and is completely in accord with my feelings.

    And from my perspective, the writer did miss one important thing: Trump isn't a Bible Thumper! He's not a "true believer" of any kind - such as we have right now - he's pragmatic. That's what we NEED. "Captain Obvious!"
    Its also a bunch of crap. Well, the Trump supporters dont have a clue as to who they are supporting so willful blind ignorance is a part of it.

    · Anyone named Bush. True
    · Anyone named Clinton. Best buds, has sung her praises and supported her more than just in passing.
    · Anyone who's held political office. He has run before, and was beaten.
    · Political correctness. Really? from a guy who changes his tune faster than the ferryman in outlaw Josey wales at the drop of a hat?
    · Illegal immigration. He supported it ad said most of his groundskeepers were. If you bother to look around there is a pic of him with a roomfull of his "employees"
    · Massive unemployment He ut a lot of people out of work, but I will go with that one
    · Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures. He is all about phony figures. He inflates his personal fortune by 15%
    · Welfare waste and fraud, OK
    · People faking disabilities to go on the dole, OK
    · VA waiting lists, OK
    · TSA airport groping, OK all while a hot button, not exactly earth shaking
    · ObamaCare, WRONG, he has been and is in favor of single payer, which is where O care leads
    · The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes, OK, but if it benefits Trump, he will change his mind
    · Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine. Crooks? like people who run out on their debt?
    · Michelle Obama's vacations
    · Michelle Obama's food police
    · Barack Obama's golf
    · Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures. You gotta be kidding. Compared to the Donald?
    · Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America
    · Valerie Jarrett
    · "Holiday trees"
    · Hollywood hypocrites
    · Global warming nonsense
    · Cop killers
    · Gun confiscation threats. He was anti gun, pro assault weapons ban and pro waiting period. His words, his book.
    · Stagnant wages
    · Boys in girls' bathrooms
    · Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century... and that's just the short list. But hes OK with standing on daddys money and smhoozing govt. to get started building his personal fortune.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,954 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'll say it again. By far the smartest and has his own team of world class marketing consultants making sure he's got a true wining strategy with the public. NOT the party, or media, or government or political machine. Look for his tone to start dialing down slowly and the vitriol to start shifting to Hillary within the next few weeks. Even Megan Kelly is starting to soften up on him. Called him smart and witty last night. THIS is JUST business and he is VERY good at it...

    You know what made Reagan such an effective President? He had the PEOPLE on his side for the 8 years he was in office. Nullified the opposition every time.

    THIS. Very well said.

    Luis
    Wielding the Hammer of Thor first requires you to lift and carry the Hammer of Thor. - Bigslug
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