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I came to owning firearms late in life but I now have a ccl. I would love to take a training course but the cost and travel to go to a big name one makes it difficult and I don't know where to find a local one that is any good. Is there someplace online that is good or how do you find someone local that really knows and not just takes your money? At my age I am never going to be a guy that can do courses where you run all over and jump on the ground but proper training would still help me decide when and how. Any thoughts?
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http://training.nra.org/
Fundamentals!!!!!
I learned to shoot the way I do by studying competitive shooters and adapting the concepts and techniques to real world application. Learning "tactics" first and THEN trying to learn to shoot is the wrong way to go about it.
Too many "Tactical Ass-Clowns" out there trying to earn a buck teaching jerky motions, tactical rolls, and any number of stupid stuff. Beware!
Instructors I trust and have experience with:
Pat McNamara (dude is hilarious to watch and shoot with)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzwVXA9J620
Kyle Lamb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZwWyu76KLA
Mike Pannone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MeFZM6LwHE
These guys are good and they don't add the stupid BS you see from most yahoo jackholes.
I've been to their courses and don't have a bad thing to say about any of them. I've learned more about shooting and application from these three than any other shooting course I've attended.
I learned to shoot the way I do by studying competitive shooters and adapting the concepts and techniques to real world application. Learning "tactics" first and THEN trying to learn to shoot is the wrong way to go about it."
This how I have tried to approach field shooting/hunting.
"The Un-Tactical"
That is hilarious.
While I am an NRA certified handgun instructor, I am in no way qualified to teach self defense, home defense, and you should look for instructors that understand the difference. There isn't any certifying body for this type of education other than the NRA, really.
Personally I have decided what I want to learn, then found good resources for it and practiced on my own. I find the instructors and videos Zee is recommending excellent.
The most practical of skills is clearing your concealed carry piece consistently. Everything starts with getting it into your hand securely. While this sounds over simple, if you carry IWB under a shirt or coat, getting it decent grip and getting it safely out and cleared can be a challenge. It's good practice with an empty gun. If you carry with a safety on like my Makarov, unholstering and releasing the safety at the same time are great skills to have consistently.
IMHO.
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Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
"The Un-Tactical"
"The Un-Tactical"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-oYRn_llgo
If your range allows, I also add running up to the next firing line to the drill and then walking while shooting the last 10. As so:
Buzzer Starts
Fire 10 rounds from the 20 yrd line.
Run to the 10 yard line.
Fire 10 rounds from the 10 yard line.
Start walking to the 5 yard line and fire 10 rounds while in motion before arriving at the 5 yard line.
Your time is cumulative. Anything outside the "A" zone in a NO-GO!! Hero or Zero. Move as fast as you can accurately shoot. You can't miss fast enough to win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZwWyu76KLA
Is, once you have mastered the static yard line drill........stagger the targets.
Put one at the 3 yard line, the 5 yard line, and the 7 yard line. Or, whatever combination of distances you want (and can hit)
The purpose is to train your eyes to acquire multiple targets at one distance, then move the gun to another distance, acquire the sights again (eyes move first), and engage multiple points of aim again.
This doesn't mean that I HAVE to shoot a threat in the head/chest/torso (though it can't hurt.........well.......not you, anyway), but it trains your brain to move the gun, acquire the sights, shoot the target, and repeat the action.........multiple times. Sight alignment, sight picture, trigger control. Move. Sight alignment, sight picture, trigger control. Repeat. Over and over and over.
Fundamentals.
Remember. Anything outside the target box............NO GO!! No score. No time. Only hits count.
With due respect I would like to say that I didn't know about "advertisement" by posting the link. I did that for a reference only. It is true that I am a gun instructor at Boston Firearms Safety Training School and therefore I thought to share the link of my own school instead of somebody else's. You can remove the link and I'll keep it in mind not to share the links from now on-wards. Thanks! :hug:
Well, I would think you could find a good one there in Kansas. Go to some LGS you know and ask around. They usually keep up with Concealed Carry matters since they sell guns. But be forwarned, even with someone vouching for them you can end up with a less than ideal experience. But if you do, make the most of it. Get the permit and practice and read. You will be fine.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I'm not sure how it's handled in other states, but in Texas you cannot get a concealed carry permit without taking the course from a State Certified CCL instructor. It's all handled through the Texas Department of Public Safety (Same as Highway Patrol). They, the State, are pretty Anal about the process so here you will usually get a passable if not excellent instructor. I said Usually, and what I said in my other post above can pertain. But if you get a bummer of an instructor just bear with it and get the permit. Then read as much as you can, practice your butt off and study Concealed Carry-Self Defense matters every chance you get. Remember, what you learn in these classes can and is likely to save your life should you ever get into a situation where you need to use your firearm for protection.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.