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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Don't know about the azzole of Missouri, but if the world ever needs an enema they're going to stick the tube in at Chicago!
    Jerry
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Not sure. It's not really a town. It's a shopping center type setup, made to look like the old west. Several different types of stores, restaraunt, bar, tattoo shop, gun shop. It's near Ft Lennard Wood. It's a one stop shop for soldiers.
    It kind of reminds me of a smaller version of a place called "South of The Border" in North Carolina, just south of the Virginia state line on I-95. They had all kinds of tourist trap stuff. Restaurants, hotels, kiddee attractions, trucker stops, gift shops, etc.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Don't know about the azzole of Missouri, but if the world ever needs an enema they're going to stick the tube in at Chicago!
    Jerry

    That's fer' damn sure....LOL
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    yeah yeah yeah yeah, and Hitlery wouldn't?

    Snake, no one denies Hilary will. What I , and others are saying, is so will Trump. There is not a right and wrong, or good and evil choice here. It is wrong/wrong, or evil/evil. You seem to think we don't realize Hilary is bad. We do. It is you who does not realize Trump is. You said previously the local radio guy has not given one good reason that trump is bad. I bet he has given many. You and others refuse to listen, or look at his history.

    Aldus Huxley wrote
    “That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.”

    Read it. Study it. Understand it. The history is there for you to learn from. Trumps actions have been lived out before the world. There are books, legal actions, media records, television shows, and on and on and on. If Hilary, Obama, Carter, or any other libtard you want to name, did the same things as Trump you would be up in arms. But Trump has an R now. So now those things are no big deal. Does a letter really have that much power over you?


    And to those who think he is some political genius.

    So were Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hitler. No I do not think Trump will kill six million Jewish people. The examples are all apropos. They all were/are masters of rhetoric. They knew how to say the things you wanted to hear. To this day people still believe Hitler was a National Socialist. He was nothing of the sort. He used a popular movement to obtain power. He was a dictator. That is the power of rhetoric. You become blinded to the truth because your political C.A. Jones are being stroked. In that vein Trump is not what he says he is. He is what he is. Just look at his history.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Smokers, drinkers, dopers, golfers, philanderers, gun nuts, and a lot of other addicts all have their own favorite ways to feed their addiction. Political junkies are no different. The pusher of choice just figures out how to exploit whichever compulsion he's presented. The end result is the same- - - -people get manipulated by those who are willing to pander. Just because a politician happens to choose words we like to hear doesn't mean he or she has our best interests in mind. They're all a bunch of self-serving crooks!
    Jerry
  • bhl2506bhl2506 Senior Member Posts: 1,941 Senior Member
    Over-the-Hillary has 100% of the voters on Uranus.

    I wonder if they walk around with signs that say "UP URANUS"? :jester:
    Refusing to conform to the left wing mantra of political correctness by insisting on telling the truth does not make you a loud mouth.
  • bhl2506bhl2506 Senior Member Posts: 1,941 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Smokers, drinkers, dopers, golfers, philanderers, gun nuts, and a lot of other addicts all have their own favorite ways to feed their addiction. Political junkies are no different. The pusher of choice just figures out how to exploit whichever compulsion he's presented. The end result is the same- - - -people get manipulated by those who are willing to pander. Just because a politician happens to choose words we like to hear doesn't mean he or she has our best interests in mind. They're all a bunch of self-serving crooks!
    Jerry


    Couldn't say it any better! :agree:
    Refusing to conform to the left wing mantra of political correctness by insisting on telling the truth does not make you a loud mouth.
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    I'm not a big Trump supporter or an elephant junkie, but if the party establishment filibusters his nomination it's a slap in the face to a lot of voters.

    Rhetorical threats and ciber attacks shouldn't dictate the political process.

    To quote a barking dog, that's not strong, it's wrong.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    I'm not a big Trump supporter or an elephant junkie, but if the party establishment filibusters his nomination it's a slap in the face to a lot of voters.

    Rhetorical threats and ciber attacks shouldn't dictate the political process.

    To quote a barking dog, that's not strong, it's wrong.

    I agree. I despise Trump. I believe he will be actively destructive to this country, but if he gets the votes, he should get the nomination. If the democrat light party I mean GOP tries to backdoor him, they will fracture their party much worse than it is already. We may be witnessing the collapse of a political party. Of course he may unify the party and march to the White House
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    I'm not a big Trump supporter or an elephant junkie, but if the party establishment filibusters his nomination it's a slap in the face to a lot of voters.

    Rhetorical threats and ciber attacks shouldn't dictate the political process.

    To quote a barking dog, that's not strong, it's wrong.
    Right now, it is far from certain that Trump will win a majority of delegates. If he fails to do that, (and he knew about this before he decided to enter the race so it isn't some sort of "gotcha") the delegates will be free to choose another nominee. There is no conspiracy about it. If people don't like those rules, they are free to start their own party.

    If Trump earns the nomination fair and square by getting a majority of delegates, so be it. If the powers that be try to undermine him after earning a majority, while I can't stand the guy, I will take his side on the issue.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    I was supposing he'd have a delegate majority.

    But your right the fat lady hasn't sang yet.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    There is no doubt Trump will have the most delegates. He may not get to 1237 but I heard Cruz needs to get 87% of the remaining delegates to get there, Trump only needs like 53% which is doable. I think if he does not make it, there will be more bribary going on for delegates than a whole yrs worth in NYC and Chicago combined. I heard TN delegates have agreed not to spilt their votes for whoever they vote for in an effort to not be bribed.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    As a general rule, Tennessee politicians are so crooked we have to screw 'em into the graveyard- - - -it wouldn't surprise me if the whole bunch ended up for sale to the highest bidder!
    Jerry
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    So besides the letter R, as Clinton would say, "What difference does it make?"

    I won't vote for the "OTHER" Party.
    Because the basic platform of the Republican party Beats the Hell out of the other sides. Some of its representatives (McConnell, Boehner, Ryan) all poohed in their picnic basket, but the platform didn't do that. and these guys don't act like the platform directs, and if everyone would stick with to that platform and the Constitution things wouldn't be in this shape.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    What is not being considered here is what Trump would do if the situation was reversed. Suppose that Cruz had a small lead going into the convention. Would Trump concede, or would he insist that the Republican Party rules be followed to the letter?

    I think we all know that he would be working the floor trying to pick off some of those Rubio and Kasich delegates that went against him in the primaries. In fact, it is a scenario that he no doubt planned for, before he knew that he was going to be the frontrunner.

    A contested convention is not unfair. In fact, it has been the normal way to pick a nominee for over a hundred years. The 1237 number is simply a threshold that has to be crossed to win on the first ballot at the convention. The delegates are bound to vote for the primary or caucus winners, one time, by party rules, and just because that threshold has been met by every nominee since 1976, it doesn't mean that the rule should no longer apply.

    The idea behind a political party is to unite voters of widely different beliefs behind core principles that they can all agree on, rather than have dozens of purely populist candidates who can rally large numbers of voters by appealing to their emotions, rather than the collective good. The latter is the exact reason why pure democracies have never succeeded. For a nation to maintain majority rule, rather than simply a plurality, it prevents a person from being elected that the majority of the population is against.

    The idea of a 'brokered' convention comes in when the convention is deadlocked, meaning that no candidate can get the delegates needed to win, and a compromise has to be made by choosing a 'neutral' person that both sides will accept. Nobody wants that, because they aren't likely to have enough support to win, in the general election. That is not going to happen, in this day and age, because the public has access to immediate information about what is going on, and they won't stand for it, at least not in the Republican Party...who knows if Democrats would.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    Like others here, I am not against a brokered convention. Frankly, at this point I'd prefer it. Having said that...if the 'establishment' decides they don't care for results as they are and start to play fast and loose with agreed upon rules, I will (begrudgingly) side with Trump.

    However, the fact remains that, if he is the nominee, I will not pull the 'R' lever in the general election.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    However, the fact remains that, if he is the nominee, I will not pull the 'R' lever in the general election.

    I'll let you and snake debate that. I'm still trying to digest the here and now, and what is likely to change between now and then.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I'll let you and snake debate that. I'm still trying to digest the here and now, and what is likely to change between now and then.

    Fair enough. As I've said several times, I hope I'm wrong about the man. If he gets the nomination (seems likely) and wins the general (much less likely) I hope I end up looking like some hysterical moonbat who's fears were completely unwarranted. Things would end up so much nicer that way. I can live down looking like a fool.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Not sure. It's not really a town. It's a shopping center type setup, made to look like the old west. Several different types of stores, restaraunt, bar, tattoo shop, gun shop. It's near Ft Lennard Wood. It's a one stop shop for soldiers.
    I can confirm Ft Leonard Wood is the ass hole of Missouri! Basic training May-June 1978.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    I thought CPJ was the ass hole of Missouri.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    I thought CPJ was the ass hole of Missouri.

    The most obvious reply ever yet one of the best
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    BAMAAK wrote: »
    The most obvious reply ever yet one of the best

    This. I laughed.
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    These demonstrations just illustrate the panic overtaking the Left - Trump isn't just a threat to the progressive agenda of redistribution of America's wealth domestically and globally, to trade agreements designed to foster an equality of outcomes among nations, and to changing the demographics of this country's electorate by incorporating millions of immigrants they will be sure to register as Democrats.

    More than that is at risk - Trump represents a complete contempt for Left's willing accomplice - the press - he purposely gives inane answers to their stupid questions, and he has broken the chains that bind free speech and free thought as no other candidate has or can. He can 'dis' BLM, and when he walks through the valley of identity politics, he fears no evil. He openly advocates for the 2nd Amendment, and he walks the walk - declaring openly his possession of a CCW permit and actually carrying a weapon.

    Trump, more than Cruz or Kasich, represents an existential threat not only to the ideology of the Left, but the infrastructure that the Left uses to support that ideology - the labels and charges of racism, bigotry, assorted phobias, and white privilege they laminate their enemies with when they speak a little too loudly. All of that bounces off Trump and he takes great delight being outrageous. He kicks the social contract right in the ass for now, if elected, he might disassemble it entirely. Without the protection of political correctness, the Left stands no chance of success competing openly in the marketplace of ideas.








    T R U M P
    Because being President is just the beginning
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    T R U M P
    Because being President is just the beginning[/QUOTE]

    :that:

    I think this is one thing that some of us have been trying to say, but hadn't put our finger on quite yet. Tanks horse> Whatever, it's true. This guy is afraid of no one on the left. Whatever his faults, he gets this right.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    So, not only is he going to fix the debt, the economy, "make America great again", turn the populace to conservatism, change the course of America's political system ....he's also going to single handedly stomp out political correctness and reform the media?

    Is that all, or will we start claiming the ability to heal and walk on water as well?
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Regarding the original post, about all there is to say about that is that stupid agitators with no respect for anyone, and especially no respect for the Constitution (1st Amendment), will get a bunch of half wit drooling mouth breathers to go out and act like the subhuman animals that they are, for the most part. The agitators causing the mess won't be in attendance; they will have some of their single digit I.Q. minions there to do their bidding. You KNOW as stone cold solid FACT that the protesters don't have jobs; that would require that they do actual work for the money they receive from YOU!
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    So, not only is he going to fix the debt, the economy, "make America great again", turn the populace to conservatism, change the course of America's political system ....he's also going to single handedly stomp out political correctness and reform the media?

    Is that all, or will we start claiming the ability to heal and walk on water as well?

    Imagine if Trump can only accomplish a quarter of what he wants to do - just a fourth - it would be enough to get America on the road to greatness again, and we'd be a far sight better off than we are now. A journey of a thousand miles begins with ... walking into your polling station. VOTE
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    I'm willing to give him a try he can't possibly do worse than the politicians we have. A business man why not give him a try I have seen what career politicians have done.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    I'm willing to give him a try he can't possibly do worse than the politicians we have. A business man why not give him a try I have seen what career politicians have done.

    While I share your general sentiment, I feel that I should point out that Mitt Romney was a successful businessman in his own right. That isn't the only trait he shares with Trump, incidentally. I believe both are on record as favoring the AWB...
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
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