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FBI Investigating Clinton Foundation
woodsrunner
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Hummmm....I wonder what's going on? FBI investigating Clinton Foundation for money laundering :popcorn:! Wonder what's going on? Surely this must be a mistake, or maybe politically motivated? The Clintons would NEVER become involved in anything illegal, would they!
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Let's see now, there was, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Chinagate, Travelgate, Filegate Scandal, Cattle-Futures Miracle, Lootergate, Drug Dealer Donor Scandal, Ponzi Scheme and Political Favor Scandal, and to top it all off, Benghazi. Oh no, these are all mistakenly associated with these fine people. They are beyond reproach, of course.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Jerry
http://www.wor710.com/onair/mark-simone-52176/hillarys-camp-freaking-out-as-this-14485019/#ixzz43gmzJVmR
Everyone that is considering voting for Hillary should watch this video.
Calm down there brother - there won't be any open rebellion. Nobody has enough time off available to do a revolution. A few weeks vacation, some sick days, and then it's over. We'd all have to be back to work. And what would you overthrow? We're not a third world emerging nation, where all you have to do for a coup d'etat is capture the capital and take over the TV and radio station, proclaim the new government and voila you just made "dictator." The federal government? OK, but after that there are 50 state governments, all with National Guard units, waiting for you. After that, there's 3,100 County sheriffs. Only Wikipedia knows how many municipal police departments you'd then have to take out. Our government is so decentralized it cannot be overthrown, only the total destruction of the entire nation could accomplish that.
But don't despair - there is something you can do - something we all can do - and that's VOTE. And ya know what? We get to do it pretty soon - just some months from now. If you're unhappy with what the Democrats have wrought, vote against them, and FOR the only viable opposition party - the GOP.
T R U M P
Hopefully, more voters will hate the status quo more than they hate him.
George Carlin
I think a lot about life now that I'm in my advanced 70's. But that's beside the point..................I've not yet had a little "snort" of Buffalo Trace tonight, but I'm going downstairs and mix me a little taste to relax and not worry too much more about this election.....:jester:
― Douglas Adams
The folks that vote "X no matter what" have always been there and always will be. Let's face it, it's just easier and much less scary to not have to think about your vote.
Thinking is hard.
George Carlin
Wish I had asked; How did that work out?
With electronic voting and the amount of voters casting ballets today, write ins have a very slim chance of winning a presidential election.
Stand up Mr. Independent.
Trump steps back from Republican support pledge.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35923658
"US Republican front-runner Donald Trump has dropped his pledge to support the party candidate if he does not win the nomination for the November election."
Step forward Ms. President
And take a long, hot shower when they're done. As I said before, I don't recall the possibility of two more damaged candidates vying for the nation's highest office.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Spoken like a true elitist. It's nobody's problem but yours that you don't have even the slightest comprehension of the essential nature and implications inherent in our 2 party political system. Those of us in the know understand that you vote the candidate of your choice in primary elections (the one you believe best able to lead his party and inspire the electorate), and then the party of your choice in general elections (the party who's platform best reflects your positions).
Plenty of thinking, even hard thought, goes into voting for that 'X' of your choice. If the 'right man' wins, but so does the 'wrong party' you achieve nothing. You get nowhere. The only chance the 'right man' has of doing right, is if his party wins along with him. Otherwise you have a voice crying out in the wilderness, and you're the only one listening.
It is laughably misguided to look at the race for the House of Representatives as 970 candidates vying for 435 seats. They're just the trees. The mature, informed voter sees the big picture - a race between 2 forests. The winning forest stands, the losing forest gets cut down - including any 'best men for the job' that happen to be there.
Telling folks you're 'in the know' while talking down to them is a hallmark of the elitist. A hallmark of the stupid is expounding on things you know little about. Pot, kettle...
To further dispel your illusions of my elitism; I've got your 'lack of comprehension'...right here.
George Carlin
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/the-founding-fathers-tried-to-warn-us-about-the-threat-from-a-two-party-system.html
John Adams said:
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech:
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty
Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.
Some more of that knowledge stuff:
https://polsci101.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/idealistic-views-of-the-founding-fathers-compared-to-contemporary-dichromatic-politics/
Some more of that knowledge stuff with links to other knowledge:
http://freedomoutpost.com/founding-fathers-loathed-political-parties/
― Douglas Adams
Like it or not, for better or worse, American political life is controlled by 2 big parties, each recognized and protected in law. That's the hand we're dealt, that's the hand we must play.
Joshua was the computer in the movie "War Games". The following quote is about both the game tic tac toe and total thermonuclear war. I think it also should include two or more party politics. The last two are national suicide, and all three are no win scenarios. The end game of two (or more) party politics usually ends in a dictatorship or worse. More of that nasty history stuff.
Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
― Douglas Adams
This assumes (of course) he doesn't decide to completely dismantle your beloved Republican party by eschewing his possible nomination in favor of a third party tilt. Either way, it won't matter to me...I'll know I did what I could to avoid it.
George Carlin
Fine, don't play. Sit the election out. On the morning of January 20, stand in front of your mirror and practice saying "President Hillary Clinton." Then well-up with pride and satisfaction. Being a death-wish conservative Pharisee is fine - I just hope your decision to die on the hill of self-righteous indignation doesn't take the country down with you.
As for Joshua the chess-playing computer - before deciding not to play the game of thermonuclear war, he should take a page from Captain James Tiberius Kirk - there no such thing as the no-win scenario. Remember Kobayashi Maru.
This is the part where I say I'll never say "I told you so", but doing so would be pointless, you'd never listen anyway.
George Carlin
Never said I was sitting anything out. You made that up in your own head. Death wish conservative? More stuff made up in your head; I'm a libertarian with anarchist leanings. YOU are so far left of me that I'd need the Hubble space telescope to make out your fuzzy outline! :roll2: Die on the hill of self-righteous indignation and take down the country with me? Another load of maggot infested machinations made up in your own mind. Both parties are mostly made up of people that will vote for the R or D come hell or high water. If Joseph Stalin was on the D ticket and Adolph Hitler on the R ticket, the R and D voters would pull the lever/punch the button without even batting an eye or looking who they were voting for because the other guy/gal belongs to the wrong party. And that's how dictatorships and communist regimes arise. More history that you're ignoring. But what the hey, it couldn't happen here, could it. Just because a democratic socialist and a criminal nutcase are running in one party and a bunch of questionable folks are running in the other party isn't a concern. As long as YOUR candidate of choice wins, it's all good.
The party line hacks that vote for their respective party's choice regardless of their candidate's fitness for holding the office are the problem. You DO know who has been POTUS for the last 7 1/4 years, right? It is the definition of insanity to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. It's also a sign that the average voter is less intelligent than a carrot.
And as for the Kobayashi Maru reference and Capt. Kirk, that's a good one. He cheated on the test. Like the Dems voting illegal aliens and the graveyards. And the party in power Gerrymandering districts to carve out districts that exclude people on purpose. Your bringing that reference up suggests you think cheating to win is acceptable; it isn't. But that's none of my business.
― Douglas Adams