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DanChamberlain
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Guys, We've Been Well Played.
DanChamberlain
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I always thought true conservatives were just a couple steps ahead of the progressives but now I absolutely know we're so far behind it's doubtful we'll ever regain our place as masters of our destiny.
Many years ago, while Marshal Dan was still alive, I started a thread about a mega corporation taking over the vast majority of US firearms manufacturing and how this could one day, based on piece-meal legislation, result in a shut down. I still believe this is possible - but that's not the reason I'm posting this.
As a result of Obama's (and the progressive left's) race baiting and war on police, I saw an article where police are considering up-armoring their patrol cars. This seems a logical imperative since violent attacks on police have sky rocketed.
But, is it in response to an anomaly, or is it in response to a plan? And if it's in response to a plan, is THE response also part of the plan?
Police state coming!
Many years ago, while Marshal Dan was still alive, I started a thread about a mega corporation taking over the vast majority of US firearms manufacturing and how this could one day, based on piece-meal legislation, result in a shut down. I still believe this is possible - but that's not the reason I'm posting this.
As a result of Obama's (and the progressive left's) race baiting and war on police, I saw an article where police are considering up-armoring their patrol cars. This seems a logical imperative since violent attacks on police have sky rocketed.
But, is it in response to an anomaly, or is it in response to a plan? And if it's in response to a plan, is THE response also part of the plan?
Police state coming!
It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
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For some reason I remember this thread and each time a firearms manufacturer files bankruptcy gets a new CEO or moves it pops into my head.
To be honest I did not remember who started the thread, but I remember there was a company becoming an umbrella for smaller gun related companies that if they ever folded or just shut down our gun business would cease to exist.
Violent attacks on police have freaking exploded and deaths due to violence are already setting records. Of course, if you get your news from the networks, they are only reporting on Trump vs Cruz.
One day later a liquor store was robbed in a shopping center where I got a haircut a month or so back. The would be thief led our cities finest in high speed pursuit. Then decided to have a vehicular jousting match badly smashing an almost new patrol car before being apprehended.
Just another weekend in:fan:
Liberals are such poor debaters. We're talking about cop deaths and they're way up this year. It's been publicized quite heavily since the first of the year. Pull your head out.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4821634353001/number-of-cops-killings-up-133-percent-since-last-year/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html
39............ 1887
123........ 2015
124..........1908
280..........1974
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
"It is now." - Jack Fraggs
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I don't think Muslims are targeting cops, at least not in America, but there are others who apparently are. Muslims in America are less than 1% of the population. Heard it on The Five yesterday.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/03/29/man-fatally-shot-ariz-police-officer-begged-life/82393582/
I would be interested in a compilation of officer involved shootings, and deaths. Are they going up as well? Bet they are. But they are all justified right?
This is not a one sided problem.
Every LEO shooting undergoes extensive review. If the victim is a minority, the review is intensified and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and now apparently tubabucknut chimes in.
Agreed.
American police killed 1207 people in 2015.
http://killedbypolice.net/
On the flip side, 128 cops (roughly 10% of citizens killed by police) died in the line of duty in 2015. Less than half of this number (58) were murdered.
https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2015
Seems a bit one sided.
Adam J. McCleod
This day and age, every shootin by a cop will be scrutinized to the nth degree and them some. Feds called in even when it is ruled justified/line of duty to rack the whole department over the coals. Not a good situation. By all means investigate, but keep it fair and impartial so both sides will get a fair shake.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
How many of those "Citizens" were committing a crime when they got a cap busted on their asses?
Not all were justifiable and it looks like to me in those cases the officers were and are being prosecuted.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
The question you should ask is how many weren't committing a crime when killed by police? The next question is how many cops were prosecuted for these killings?
Adam J. McCleod
http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.html
OK, I'm your Huckleberry.........how many?
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I attached 1207 links in post #20. You'll side with the agents of the state no matter what I say.
Adam J. McCleod
You see, again this is the reason you guys are clowns when it comes to statistics. 10 deaths in three months and not from a populate of 300 + million, but from a number only of police officers. Keep the demographics pertinent to the discussion.
The officer has been fired, and is charged with murder. Did you even read the article?
Yes, I agree. Must be a situation where deadly force is called for/justified and I thought that was a given in my post intent when I said committing a crime that it would be at that level or escalated to that level like in Ferguson.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I will side with the truth no matter what any side says, citizens or police or forum members.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
We have had this on this forum before and we lost the membership of some real fine people
Yes and it doesn't have to be that way.
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments. It is also sometimes colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's point.
The term was popularised in United States by Mark Twain (among others), who attributed it to the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." However, the phrase is not found in any of Disraeli's works and the earliest known appearances were years after his death. Several other people have been listed as originators of the quote, and it is often erroneously attributed to Twain himself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Armored police cars are afar cry from a police state, and offer very small officer protection in comparison to the enormous cost.
People that are anti cop change their mind pretty quick when deprived of the rule of law. And people that advocate more draconian, and heavy handed enforcement can change their minds quick when it's their own rights or freedoms being jeopardized.
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