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shushshush Senior MemberPosts: 6,259 Senior Member
Should the UK vote to leave the EU?
Should the UK vote to stay in the EU?
What is the EU?
What is the UK?
Should keep his nose out and let us get on with our own business.
I should give a monkeys, one way or t'other.
Other.
All of the above.
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    I have to believe that an over consolidation of power over folks money will have a negative effect on the many well delivering great benefits to the few.

    Why else would people of big political influence be selling it?
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,823 Senior Member
    Obama says they/you/UK should stay in the EU, so hell yes, get the frack out of there!
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,250 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Should the UK vote to leave the EU?
    Should the UK vote to stay in the EU?
    What is the EU?
    What is the UK?
    Should keep his nose out and let us get on with our own business.
    I should give a monkeys, one way or t'other.
    Other.
    All of the above.

    Well. . .you deployed a bunch of Spitfires, Hurricanes, and Lancasters while lining your beaches with barb wire to stay out of the last European Union.

    You stripped your island bare of oak trees in order to build enough warships to stay out of the European Union before that.

    After listening to us Yanks complain endlessly about what a Charlie Foxtrot the U.N. is, you really have to ask? Keep your government small and your money close.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    FU EU!

    If I were a resident of the United Kingdom, I would tell the EU and that meddling American president to stick it up their ass. Sideways.

    I like the idea of a European Union, but I think they have been too far reaching and they are only going to get worse.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Have any worked historically for a long time...........Austro-Hungarian Empire , Prussian Empire...............oh wait British Empire...............they all crumble over time.

    I'd stay out and keep as much sovereignty as I could. I can see some small countries banding together for the common defense/trade and stuff, but the EU is not the answer.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    FU EU!

    If I were a resident of the United Kingdom, I would tell the EU and that meddling American president to stick it up their ass. Sideways.

    I like the idea of a European Union, but I think they have been too far reaching and they are only going to get worse.

    :agree:

    EU for the UK is like the UN is for the US ... and anchor that will pull them into mess they shouldn't have to deal with!
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Mark me down for monkeys butt.........................
    .

    Not me, I heard it Stanks :jester:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    "Unions" of states are to provide for things that cannot be done on their own. The British Navy and armed forces are among the best in the world. Your economy is stable and you have the respect of the world. Your Universities are also among the best in the world. The British Pound is a world currency standard.

    What have you to gain by joining the EU? Debt? Leeches? Immigration?

    I see nothing they have to offer you.

    If Texas or California were independent and we asked today for them to join the USA, I am pretty sure they would say no.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,281 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    "Unions" of states are to provide for things that cannot be done on their own. The British Navy and armed forces are among the best in the world. Your economy is stable and you have the respect of the world. Your Universities are also among the best in the world. The British Pound is a world currency standard.

    What have you to gain by joining the EU? Debt? Leeches? Immigration?

    I see nothing they have to offer you.

    If Texas or California were independent and we asked today for them to join the USA, I am pretty sure they would say no.

    D

    Pretty much sums it up for me
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Leave the EU ASAP! They'll drag y'all down to their level of stupid and beat you with experience if you stay! You're way too smart to be slummin' with that continental Euro trash! :tooth:
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The "royal families" have been sharing genes for centuries- - - -resulting in a bunch of inbred fools running most of the countries on the continent. People finally got tired of that foolishness and took most of the power away from the royals. Why on earth would anyone with more than three brain cells to rub together want to consolidate political and/or economic power in a small group of people again, even if they don't share a bloodline?

    So far as listening to anything the **** offspring of a serial bigamist and a drugged-out hippie has to say- - - - -I'd rather feed him a big meal of beans and let him blow his brains out the first time he farts!
    Jerry
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    BigDanS pretty well sums it up, shush. My opinion, anyhow.
  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 838 Senior Member
    Nice Waipapa13 says you should leave the EU, didn't we fight two wars together so that we wouldn't have to be told what to do by a damn German??? yet here the UK is voluntarily kowtowing to the buggers.:jester:

    Nasty Waipapa13 says who gives a damn, you can bloody well sink like we nearly did when you shafted us with exports as part of the EEC in the '70's, as you sow, so shall you reap. :angry:

    All in all there are pros and cons, but on the whole I think there is more value in the flexibility of being outside of the quagmire of EU bureaucracy for trade and domestic policy.

    What are your thoughts Shush?
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    .................................So far as listening to anything the **** offspring of a serial bigamist and a drugged-out hippie has to say- - - - -I'd rather feed him a big meal of beans and let him blow his brains out the first time he farts!
    Jerry

    :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :spittingcoffee:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,711 Senior Member
    I don't care!
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • avmechavmech Senior Member Posts: 856 Senior Member
    You did not convert to the Euro, you did not convert to the metric system, why the hell are you part of the EU??? But then the UK was one of the proponents of the EU.............
    NRA Benefactor Member
  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Depends.
    A popular vote to leave the EU could be pretty serious leverage for Her Majesty's Government to employ - force the EU to sweeten the deal in a few dozen ways, and it might be worth staying in.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Mark me down for monkeys butt.
    Couldn't care less what y'all do.
    Opinions are like buttholes-- everyone has one. Shush asked for your opinion. That means he wants to see your butthole.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Mark me down for monkeys butt.
    Couldn't care less what y'all do.

    What he said. Just don't ask us to bail your butts out again.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    Personally, I would say leave the EU.

    But then, I don't have a dog in that hunt...none of my business.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,397 Senior Member
    shush wrote: »
    Should the UK vote to leave the EU?:up:
    Should the UK vote to stay in the EU?:yikes:
    What is the EU?:fan:
    What is the UK?:hug:
    Should keep his nose out and let us get on with our own business. :win:
    I should give a monkeys, one way or t'other.:fiddle:
    Other.:topic:
    All of the above.
    IMHO
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    If Texas or California were independent and we asked today for them to join the USA, I am pretty sure they would say no.

    D

    I think you would find that in any red state, if it were obvious that the intention of the USA was to continue to ignore the Constitution. Why would any self-sufficient state join any union that needed it only to fund the states that had no intention or will to become self-sufficient? That should be how the UK resolves this question.

    Of course, there is always the matter of whether a union is required for national defense, but such issues can be usually be resolved by treaties, which are usually less expensive than continuous and perpetual draws from a taxpayer's check.
  • shushshush Senior Member Posts: 6,259 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Jermanator wrote: »
    ....... That means he wants to see your butthole.
    Well, if he insists.

    By the sound of it that is the only action you are likely to get.

    Have you tried a mirror, no involvement of a third party, just you and your friend.



    cpj to the contrary, I am not a banker, but £55 ( $79.22 )million a day in membership fees to subsidies a black hole of a european union monetary policy, seems a bit high.

    eg.

    It costs approximately $130 million per year to move the European Parliament, complete, between Brussels and Strasbourg, 750 members and staff, every month.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    That is freaking crazy. Like I said, my idea of a European Union (a small, nimble organization with a light touch, dedicated to facilitating trade among the member nations-- and the union as a whole to the world) would be great! Right now, it looks like a bureaucracy just for the sake of bureaucracy that is serving their own agenda, and not to the universal benefit of the members.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    FU EU!

    If I were a resident of the United Kingdom, I would tell the EU and that meddling American president to stick it up their ass. Sideways.

    I like the idea of a European Union, but I think they have been too far reaching and they are only going to get worse.

    In the words of the famous Ensign Parker of McCales Navy Fame, "Gee I love that kind a talk!"

    :agree:

    :tooth:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,249 Senior Member
    Drop the EU like a hot rock.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    The European Union is a no brainer for the United Kingdom. And it's none of Obummer's business. And anything he suggest I would tend to take the opposite view, just because.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    I am ignorant of many aspects of the EU, but my instinct is to believe that large, strong central governments are bad for a free people. Europe has had a history of bloody wars between competing economic powers, but seem to be able to get along better, since the massive destruction of life and property in the last century. But, the countries of Europe also have been trending hard into outright socialism for a long time, and the weaker economies seem to be succumbing to it's inevitable conclusion - bankruptcy. The stronger economies are strong because they have very disciplined cultures and strong traditions that avoid letting deficit spending get completely out of hand. It seems to me that the EU is a way for the non-performing economies to continue their slides into economic oblivion, and drag the properly performing economies with them.

    We are facing similar in the US, and can't seem to get out of it because the 49% of folks that don't pay taxes want to continue their free rides to the bitter end. So, it comes down to the inevitable political battle between the 'haves' and 'have nots' - which is the fruit that socialism always bears. Strong central governments always end up trying to fit every person into a three-tiered system that consists of a huge elitist government, the working tax payers, and the wards of the state. Eventually, the pressures placed on taxpayers to finance the bloated government and ever-increasing welfare state results in a political revolution, in which the working tax payers attempt to escape the burden of supporting the ne're-do-wells in both of the other two groups. If they succeed, bloody revolution is postponed for a while, and the hope is that peaceable solutions will eventually restore economic stability, and that the toothpaste can be put back into the tube.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,689 Senior Member
    I'd say "leave". Media, socialists and their minions are trying to scare the Brit people of leaving by saying it would be economically problematic for the local finances due to the commercial deals between EU members, but Great Britain is one of the "strong" members along with Germany, and the rest will eventually end up making treaties to keep the much needed two-way flow of cash and merchandises. Truth is that the EU bureaucrats don't want to loose an important chunk of their financial backup.
  • Murphy's LawMurphy's Law Member Posts: 313 Member
    Teach wrote: »
    The "royal families" have been sharing genes for centuries- - - -resulting in a bunch of inbred fools running most of the countries on the continent. People finally got tired of that foolishness and took most of the power away from the royals. Why on earth would anyone with more than three brain cells to rub together want to consolidate political and/or economic power in a small group of people again, even if they don't share a bloodline?

    So far as listening to anything the **** offspring of a serial bigamist and a drugged-out hippie has to say- - - - -I'd rather feed him a big meal of beans and let him blow his brains out the first time he farts!
    Jerry

    How dare you speak of the Queen Mum that way!
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