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Wambli Ska wrote: »
Once again, please refrain from cutting short any baseless totally emotional arguments with facts. It leads to boring, completely objective conversations well beyond the comprehension ability of many.
MileHighShooter wrote: »
You didn't know there was a 270 wsm? Introduced like a year after the 300? It is the only one being commercially chambered next to the 300 wsm in any numbers, the 7mm is getting harder to find. 270 is made by a LOT of gun manufacturers. I guess everything really IS bigger in Texas....including that rock you've been under lol.
You are not totally correct on the wsm case and its efficiency with bigger bores. It is VERY efficient with bigger bores. It lacks with LONGER bullets, not bigger, not heavier, longer. Big difference between a 225gr flat base C&C 338 bullet and modern ultra long high BC 225gr 338 bullet....which is what Olins/Winchester pushes in the newer cartridges.
A 35 Sambar (358 WSM) pretty much matches the 358 Norma. 250's approaching 3000fps.
9.3 B&M closes in on the 9.3x64 Brenneke
416 B&M, 458 B&M, 470 B&M and 500 B&M all produce dangerous 5 capability with ease.
The B&M line, btw is not EXACTLY the same as the wsm, they're based on the RUM cases cut down to a wee bit longer then WSM. Still, the WSM has been necked from everything 500 on down, and they perform pretty good if you work within their limitations, like any other cartridge that exists. You can only get a B&M from SSK though, the guy who designed the line made SSK the sole owner of the drawings.
*cracks fingers and stretches a bit*
Now, lets get down to some serious enabling here Snakey-poo. Going WSM case is going to require a lot of work, it is probably possible, but it would be easier to just start in a short mag action. You've got a little more length to work with on that Yugo, right? Made to fit the 57 case family? How about something that would still take a tiny bit of work, but nothing horribly long or expensive, that would fit perfectly in that action. Just need to open the face a smidgen. Has as much punch as the 9.3, but uses a slightly bigger diameter bullet. However, you can load it down and use the great lighter bullets that were designed for the 38-55 and 375 Win.
I introduce you to, the 376 Steyr.
Brass is a WEE bit expensive, but it should last you a bit, and besides just buy a box or 2 and be set for life. Hornady is the only supplier, but if I had to choose a cartridge with only one manufacturer for brass...I'd be happy with Hornady. Also a standard Hornady die set. It is a SAAMI cartridge, so no worry about wondering if the reamers your smith gets match perfectly to your wild cat dies. Although, rare enough and unheard of enough, to might as well be a wildcat.
If you wanted to roll up some big 270-350gr bullets, you could, but you could easily roll some pigs and deer with the 220-230gr range of bullets. The 235's would be the cats pajamas for anything you'd need to do with them. And built on a Yugo with a nice say....21" barrel, you'd have quite the handy little big bore. If you really had to scratch that wildcat itch, this case has already been shrunk and stretched to any caliber that fits. The guy up in Wyoming who does the Hawk cartridges, does a 416 Aagaard, which is the 376 necked up, and named after legendary hunter Fin Aagaard. You could neck it down to 338 and be ahead of the 338-06, right on the heels of the 338 Win Mag. Same with the 358, but why bother when the 375 would do it juuuuust fine.
Now, go do some googling on it :jester:
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