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SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior MemberPosts: 5,458 Senior Member
in Personal Defense #1
This is right up there with "Racking a pump action to scare the bad guy"

Folks, I am copy and pasting this because I don't want to chance something getting lost in translation:

"You can also add several cc's of oil in the round to keep the bird shot clumped together for a longer distance as well."

The subject was birdshot for home defense.

I've had enough internet for the day.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    #2
    Just shoot some super glue in there.....
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,851 Senior Member
    #3
    SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »
    This is right up there with "Racking a pump action to scare the bad guy"

    Folks, I am copy and pasting this because I don't want to chance something getting lost in translation:

    "You can also add several cc's of oil in the round to keep the bird shot clumped together for a longer distance as well."

    The subject was birdshot for home defense.

    I've had enough internet for the day.

    Just get some slugs

    Or just heat the led up and melt it into one mass

    Actually, the real way this was done was cut around about a quarter inch above the bottom of the base of the power piston (Plastic Wad) around the circumference of the shell where the crimped end of the shot shell would stay with the wad and shot column where it would stay together as one unit. It's called a CUT LOAD! And it's capable of long distance.

    We used to make cut loads to shoot at rafted up ducks out on the bay to get them to fly. I'm talking about ranges out to 300-400 yards. Of course the ducks usually flew in the wrong direction, but that's beside the point, the cut load would get them to fly if you got it close to the ducks, for a couple hundred yards in the wrong direction. And I never saw a cut load kill a duck either.

    I've even shot at high flying geese with them but never killed a goose either. That's the ultimate Sky Busting Load. Actually, it's the ultimate Waste of shot and powder.
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,925 Senior Member
    #4
    SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »
    This is right up there with "Racking a pump action to scare the bad guy"

    Folks, I am copy and pasting this because I don't want to chance something getting lost in translation:

    "You can also add several cc's of oil in the round to keep the bird shot clumped together for a longer distance as well."

    The subject was birdshot for home defense.

    I've had enough internet for the day.


    Well, if you would spend more time here.............
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    #5
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Well, if you would spend more time here.............

    I'm trying brother. But when "work" takes you to places like this......


    It's hard to have time for much anything!
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,925 Senior Member
    #6
    Jgunpilot sent me some video of some rescues they did this spring, hairy stuff doing that aspect of the job, hope you have nothing but soft full power landings.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    #7
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    Jgunpilot sent me some video of some rescues they did this spring, hairy stuff doing that aspect of the job, hope you have nothing but soft full power landings.

    We weren't doing any rescues, that was a huge photo op. I ended up landing a sweet gig with these guys:
    http://www.heliweb.com

    Some of my photos in last month's issue on page 48.
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • miketxmiketx Member Posts: 47 Member
    #8
    why can't you just shoot them in the leg? ;)
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,925 Senior Member
    #9
    SirGeorgeKillian wrote: »
    We weren't doing any rescues, that was a huge photo op. I ended up landing a sweet gig with these guys:
    http://www.heliweb.com

    Some of my photos in last month's issue on page 48.

    New job or part time? The pictures looked good:up:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    #10
    miketx wrote: »
    why can't you just shoot them in the leg? ;)


    Because the sound of me racking a shell into the chamber scared them off!
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • SirGeorgeKillianSirGeorgeKillian Senior Member Posts: 5,458 Senior Member
    #11
    CHIRO1989 wrote: »
    New job or part time? The pictures looked good:up:


    Still fighting fires full time. Having a blast doing this part time! 1d451502c0ab3535983666727a5ef33a.jpg
    Unless life also hands you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck!
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I'm in love with a Glock
  • Murphy's LawMurphy's Law Member Posts: 313 Member
    #12
    Chief Brody pouring poison laced paraffin wax on his pistol rounds. ...and they weren't even "holler points!" Lol!!!
  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,689 Senior Member
    #13
    Saw a you tube video where a guy poured melted wax into bird shot and let it cool..........hit like a slug but blew apart upon impact.

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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,455 Senior Member
    #14
    gator wrote: »
    Saw a you tube video where a guy poured melted wax into bird shot and let it cool..........hit like a slug but blew apart upon impact.

    Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk



    I could see solidified wax having some limited success holding shot together at short ranges, but oil?? Not until the laws of physics are suspended.
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,101 Senior Member
    #15
    What if if's really, really thick? Almost like grease?
    Overkill is underrated.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,455 Senior Member
    #16
    breamfisher wrote: »
    What if if's really, really thick? Almost like grease?



    Well, if we're talking about steel shot, and since steel shot is (are?) basically ball bearings...I could see grease making the shot (bearings) fly longer and more quietly. Seems legit. However, I'm pretty sure grease and oil are meant to keep surfaces apart, not together.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
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  • NJSOGNJSOG Member Posts: 101 Member
    #17
    Scratching my head wondering; What am I reading. Home Defense shot gun load ? Oil the shot in the shell ? Oil takes the bang out of powder better than water. How about a load of lead BB's out of a Duck Bill shotgun barrel. Oh yeah and Shoot'em in the face.


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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    #18
    I think Winchester loads a buck&ball type shell.

    I don't think using tinkered shell's for serious business is a good idea.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • ArmoredmanArmoredman Member Posts: 351 Member
    #19
    Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,455 Senior Member
    #20
    NJSOG wrote: »
    Scratching my head wondering; What am I reading. Home Defense shot gun load ? Oil the shot in the shell ? Oil takes the bang out of powder better than water. How about a load of lead BB's out of a Duck Bill shotgun barrel. Oh yeah and Shoot'em in the face

    I'd venture to say that shooting them in the face would be quite effective irrespective of barrel type or shot type.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,106 Senior Member
    #21
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    I'd venture to say that shooting them in the face would be quite effective irrespective of barrel type or shot type.

    At muzzle-to-face-contact distance even #12 dust shot would suffice.
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