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2016 El Camino.....no, just no.

TugarTugar Senior MemberPosts: 2,423 Senior Member
http://www.chevcarclubvic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/2016-Chevy-El-Camino-SS.jpg

Looks terrible to me. Holden makes one called the Ute that is a variant of the SS which Chevy sells already. To me an improvement.

http://bestcarmag.com/makes/Holden/UTE
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    The Comino SS looks like it came off the Corvette parts rack.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    That is almost as bad as Ford's Thunderbird remake 15 years ago.

    That said, slap a LS7 in one and I would drive it like I stole it.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    I never liked the El Camino or Ranchero. A bad implementation of both a car and a truck.

    With that said, I like this one. Kinda looks like a Monte Carlo - one of the few 2 door cars that I actually like.
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  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,970 Senior Member
    I kind of like it. Not enough to ditch my Tacoma, but I would test drive one.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    That is one FUGLY car/truck! I thought the remake of the 48 Chevy (SSR?) was a new low, but I think they have touched bottom even more effectively!

    I think Chevy has a bat scat crazy engineer locked up in a rubber room somewhere, and every few years he escapes and designs a car. Some of his previous efforts include the Corvair, the Vega, and the Chevette!
    Jerry
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    What an ugly piece a crap! I love it!!! Put that 580 HP engine they put in that bad ass Camero in it with the 8 speed auto trans beefed up by B&M and you don't need wings to fly!

    :cool2:.......:cool:.......:cool2:.......:cool:.......:cool2:

    ................:win:...............
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    That is one FUGLY car/truck! I thought the remake of the 48 Chevy (SSR?) was a new low, but I think they have touched bottom even more effectively!

    I think Chevy has a bat scat crazy engineer locked up in a rubber room somewhere, and every few years he escapes and designs a car. Some of his previous efforts include the Corvair, the Vega, and the Chevette!
    Jerry
    Then there's the Chevy HHR....or HomoHotRod.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    The Comino SS looks like it came off the Corvette parts rack.


    A guess on my part, but it looks to me like it's based on the Camaro.

    I kinda like it...
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  • roadkingroadking Senior Member Posts: 3,056 Senior Member
    Meh...want a truck, get a truck. Want a sports car, get a sports car.

    Granted, when I was younger, I did own a '67 Ranchero; 390 with c-6 auto, and drove the heck out of it...only blew the ring gear out 2 times. It was fun, but useless as a pick up.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    roadking wrote: »
    Meh...want a truck, get a truck. Want a sports car, get a sports car.

    ^THIS^

    It's like a Taurus Judge - not a good shotgun and not a good .45 Colt. The worst of both worlds.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Trivia Quiz for all the younger guys, Now Teach you and Big Al don't spill the beans! Make em get on their phones and computers searching........What was the first Chevy Big Block V8?

    Yeah next thing ya know they'll be bringin back the 409! Gitti up Gitti Up 409, 409, My 409! Yeah, the one with the valve stuck through the Piston.......No, 409 ain't the answer but it's a real good hint.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Beach Boys.

    I guess, because you didn't really ask a question.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,911 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Trivia Quiz for all the younger guys, Now Teach you and Big Al don't spill the beans! Make em get on their phones and computers searching........What was the first Chevy Big Block V8?

    Yeah next thing ya know they'll be bringin back the 409! Gitti up Gitti Up 409, 409, My 409! Yeah, the one with the valve stuck through the Piston.......No, 409 ain't the answer but it's a real good hint.

    Have to be one of these: 283, 327, 348, 409, 427 or 454

    BTW, I have always been a fan of the El Camino. This one looks a little bulbous, but I'd take it with the proper engine and suspension.
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,958 Senior Member
    roadking wrote: »
    Meh...want a truck, get a truck. Want a sports car, get a sports car.

    Granted, when I was younger, I did own a '67 Ranchero; 390 with c-6 auto, and drove the heck out of it...only blew the ring gear out 2 times. It was fun, but useless as a pick up.

    Mt father took one into a asphalt plant and took a drop. Its only useless if you dont have a imagination. He put air shocks on it and it worked as a light truck. I got it off of him after he replaced it with a regular PU. Haul poop in the morning, take it on a date in the evening. http://classiccars.com/listings/view/556729/1974-ford-ranchero-for-sale-in-falling-waters-west-virginia-25419

    Floor boards were made of carpet, and the bedsides were bondo. Ran it until it started driving away on its own. The Ford recall fix was to mail you a sticker saying dont leave the thing in idle.

    And..... that chevy is butt ugly. The whole El Camino/Ranchero thing wasnt to have a sportscar with a bed, it was to have a open air station wagon. The closest thing on the market that matches the concept is the Ridgeline or Avalanche, but to wack off the passenger compartment on one of them, just makes a regular cab PU.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,813 Senior Member
    The 348 predated the 409, in 1958 to compete with the Ford 332 in the same year. So Ford upped theirs to 352. Then it was the 409 vs the Ford 390 and 406. Later, Chevy did the 396, still built on the 348 block, like the 409.

    Edited correct 338 to 332.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 5,032 Senior Member
    personally to make something that uuggllyy, they must have it on a diet of ugly pills.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,502 Senior Member
    If it goes fast enough nobody will ever see how FUGLY it is!! Just keep it parked the bat cave!!
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,142 Senior Member
    409 was the second Won in the series

    265 and 283 were small block engines were they not?
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  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Google says I guessed correct. Other worthless trivia, Chevy also made a 302.

    For three years to compete in the Trans Am race series. Those cars are just stupid cool, if you ever have a chance to a Trans Am nostalgia race I highly recommend it. Those guys can DRIVE, no power steering, four on the floor and a locked up rear end.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Google says I guessed correct. Other worthless trivia, Chevy also made a 302.
    327 with a 283 cam.

    Strike that. 327 with a 283 CRANK. Because brain fart.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    Not hate it, but too much "sporty" look.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    409 was the second Won in the series

    265 and 283 were small block engines were they not?
    Yep. The 348/409 were W-block engines. There was a 427 engine, too. The W-block engines were weird: the wedge of the combustion chamber was made by cutting the deck of the block at an angle relative to the stroke. It wasn't perpendicular to the stroke like a standard small- or big-block was.

    Mi padre had a 360 hp 409 in his '63 Impala SS.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    My bad. Should have said "crank" not "cam." They destroked the 327 to 302 by putting a crank out of a 283 into the motor.

    You can do the same thing with a 350 block, as all have a 4.00 in. bore. Main thing is finding a crank with a 3" stroke that'll work with the journals of the block. There's small- and large-journal crankshafts, small-journal being the standard on a 283.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    Oh, I'm well familiar with a 3/4 cam. I knew someone who ran those in his engine, breathing through camelback heads.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,877 Senior Member
    When I was in high school, every gear head was running a 3/4 cam and camelback heads. Even the guy running a Ford Gran Torino.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Not a fan.
    After about 1967, the El Co should have died.
    The 59s are sweet though.

    My dad had a 1970 something with a 400 in it that lasted forever.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Regarding that 2016 El Camino, all I can say is, "The mullet is back!" :tooth:

    Might be fun to drive with the right engine/drive train, though.
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  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 915 Senior Member
    My FIL's Daily driver is an '05ish FPV Falcon Ute with a V8 Boss in it. It's cool, and fast, but with GM and Ford closing their Australian plants I wonder if they'll still make them. They are very popular here and in Australia, that one linked just flat wouldn't sell down here.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    There's a special set of thick-walled main bearings that allow any 283 crankshaft to run in a 305, large-journal 327, or 350 engine block. I've built some very small-displacement race engines for tracks with carburetor CFM restrictions using a 283 crank and a 305 block. I could turn 1000 RPM faster than my competitors running the same carburetor. My engines sounded like a bumblebee on steroids! If my driver ever got out front, nobody could catch him.
    Jerry
  • Wild TurkeyWild Turkey Member Posts: 78 Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Trivia Quiz for all the younger guys, Now Teach you and Big Al don't spill the beans! Make em get on their phones and computers searching........What was the first Chevy Big Block V8?

    I remember when the 396 Chevelle came out ('67?). Went to the dealer and looked at one and couldn't find two of the spark plugs -- knew it was going to be a headache.

    Dad had a 366 tall-deck big block in one of our grain trucks. That sucker made some serious torque -- especially after I grew up driving For flatheads and 327's.
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