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Why is Trump losing, at the moment?

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,232 Senior Member
    Do I like trump? No!
    Do I like hitlarry? HELL no!

    Who do I dislike the least? trump

    So I guess it's another "Hold my nose & vote" election for me :tissue:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Trump is giving one good speech right now, on target.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Bush/Romney and the rest of those clowns like Ryan should keep their pie holes shut. Sore losers who lost out or their pick did. They are their own worst enemy. Now is the time to get behind the presumptive REP nominee or else the Witch will be back in the WH and Bubba will be the First Man.

    Like it/hate it maybe pissing blood like TennMike is (for different reasons) over it get behind Trump now or you really will have something 10X worse if she wins. Just the way it is and this election cycle has played out. He got more votes than any other REP candidate ever in the primaries........

    It will take us all to keep her out. Time to come together folks it is between A and B no C choice available that can win. Fantasy again about delegates pulling away from their pledges, some may try, but will not succeed. Wonder who is behind it? Take a big guess.

    I have some philosophical differences with Trump too, but have been a supporter since day 1.

    Bitching/Moaning and Groaning about him incessantly is only gonna play into the DEMs hands.

    There are 5 months left before the vote. That's plenty of time for honest people to express their opinions and still jump on the Trump bandwagon. So, instead of working relentlessly to stifle any reasonable debate, why not try to make a better candidate out of Trump by letting him know what things he has to stick with to get your vote.

    As for Ryan, he has to try to walk a tightrope, to keep voters from dumping their Republican representatives in the House, when the guy he has endorsed (Trump) is saying things that hurt those candidates. Why not try to teach your candidate to look before he leaps - that's certainly something that you should hope a president will do.

    You said, yourself, that you have some differences with Trump. Now is the time to get some of those differences settled, instead of just accepting whatever whim he happens to be acting out on, on any given day.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I accpet him with his faults. He ain't gonna do a complete 180 or 90, but maybe a 60 or 25 for me you or anyone else.

    He is my man. Tearing down who I support is counterproductive. I think he will be just fine and take our country in the direction it needs now more than ever.

    Arguing with you never/maybe Trumpers on here don't cut it for me either.

    I will highlight the positives I like about him, I'm sure there will continue to be a steady stream of negatives on here, which is fine and open for discussion, but they won't be coming from me.

    At what point will you guys decide you are either with Trump or not? Silly to be sitting on the fence post at this point in the game. Are you that fickle and change yer minds depending on which way the political wind blows, what was said in the last speech or breaking "Gotcha News" the media swoops down on like vultures on roadkill?

    He has plenty work to do and so does the REP party to get its crap together and behind one THE Candidate all they are doing is covering their sorry arses by bad mouthing him day in and day out, a way out if things go bad for Trump and they can say I wasn't really for him all the way..................
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    You know what the only alternative is (Pantsuit) barring an indictment, either way it will be more of the same Obammyesque manure if they throw Joe or the Socialist in to replace her.

    So what's the big problem to keep her out?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    Big Chief wrote: »
    Arguing with you never/maybe Trumpers on here don't cut it for me either.

    Actually, they are just discussions until someone starts whining that anybody who doesn't agree with him is an idiot.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    Actually, they are just discussions until someone starts whining that anybody who doesn't agree with him is an idiot.

    That's funny I feel the same way sometimes, in REVERSE. :tooth:

    So bye bye for now again fer a spell on this discussion, no future in it fer me.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    What's the possibility that Hilary might campaign in Texas- - - - -Dealey Plaza, for instance?
    :uhm:
    Jerry
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,865 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    What's the possibility that Hilary might campaign in Texas- - - - -Dealey Plaza, for instance?
    :uhm:
    Jerry
    Perfect location for a limo ride....:jester:
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,660 Senior Member
    bisley wrote: »
    I get the correlation with marketing ploys that Wambli is so impressed with, and its success, so far, has showed some promise for winning elections, although I still think the evidence is inconclusive when applied to the general election.
    Marketing also brought us the Edsel, new coke, betamax, Delorian, McD's veggie burger, USFL (tied to current events) and a bunch of other failures when marketing geniuses decide that the people will take what they are given with no eye on what the customer will actually live with. They win in the niche, but once in the full market dont do so good.
    In Trumps case he is selling a product that has a varied background. Like a Dodge Charger. This years new for model year might be dandy, but they have been everything from what everyone wants to total crap in the past. He has to convince people who like 69 Chargers, those that are Chevy oriented and people who have grown up disliking everything Dodge, plus half the Ford crowd and some of the foreign car drivers that this brand new Charger is the right fit for them with no maintenance history on the model, just Dodges word on it.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    Good analogy.

    I liked the idea of the '69 Charger, but there was too much at stake for me to gamble on it. It might have worked out OK, but I would have always been worried that it would leave me on the side of the road, broke, and I would still have to pay for it.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,611 Senior Member
    But what if you want a '48 Deuce and a half flatbed Dodge with a 2 speed rear end?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,660 Senior Member
    Then you have to buy the unknown Charger or not, my point.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,626 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    But what if you want a '48 Deuce and a half flatbed Dodge with a 2 speed rear end?


    Haven't you heard? You HAVE to choose the Charger, otherwise you end up with the Prius. Choosing ANYTHING other than Charger gets you a four year lease on a Prius. Don't bother thinking, just pick the Charger!

    Or something like that. :roll:
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,660 Senior Member
    It pretty much always comes down to that, but the marketing aspect of the primary fits the analogy. The thing to see, is if that rabid 30% Charger lovers of the people who like Dodges, will carry over to the Chevy folks, the Ford Folks, and some of the Honda people to gain a lions share of the car buying public.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
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