What is your most reliable and accurate pistol and why?

BigDanSBigDanS Senior MemberPosts: 6,788 Senior Member
And a disclaimer, I purposely did not include revolvers because from a SD standpoint I feel they are the most reliable, although more limited in capacity and harder to reload in a fight, and somewhat harder to conceal because they tend to be wider than a pistol.

Most of you know I love my Makarovs. I didn't buy my first MAK because I knew a lot about it, I bought it because it was cheap, along with a Chinese AK and a Chinese SKS.

As I started to learn more and more about the MAK over the years, I started collecting them and shooting them. I have owned as many as 20 different MAK's at one time.

I have removed the magazines from a variety of them and interchanged them and shot a wide variety of ammo through them all, and I have yet to have one break. Although over the thousands of rounds I have shot I have had a few, and I do mean just a few, failure to feed in a variety of guns, my current Bulgarian Makarov has yet to have a round fail to feed, fail to fire or stovepipe. And that is with at least 20 different magazines passed through it.

As much as most love the 1911's, how many other guns are this reliable? I hear about 1911's being very picky about their magazines. My Glocks approach this but they are not as accurate, even though they deliver a stronger punch.

And this is not about knowing you are going into a fight and bring an optimal gun, This thread is about what you carry all the time and why it is reliable to you.

What determines reliable to you? What is your most reliable pistol and why?

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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,102 Senior Member
    Reliability for me falls in to two categories: functional and mechanical.

    So far, I haven't encountered any noteable mechanical issues with any of my pistols. I had an extractor blown off of a P226, but that was attributed to an out-of-battery discharge. The most functionally fickle pistol I have, unfortunately, is my 1911. I would not call it functionally unreliable, but it is picky about HP ammunition. Federal HydroShoks have thus far been 100% reliable, so I stick with those. No magazine issues as of yet and I am running factory SA mags, Kimbers and Chip McCormicks--7, 8 and 10 rounders.

    My most functionally reliable pistol goes to both my XD45 Tactical and my Glock 30. Never a hiccup from round one, right out of the box. My Kel-Tec PF9 had some growing pains in the first 50 rounds, but that was sorted out and now I don't use any European ammo in it (primers are too hard--not a lot of hammer mass on the PF9). My duty weapon has also performed flawlessly, but it is a Glock--go figure.

    I carry the Glock 30 exclusively for my CCW. The PF9 is my on-duty backup on an ankle rig.

    To be reliable to me, it needs to go bang and land rounds accurately. I'm easy.

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  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,327 Senior Member
    Most reliable: My Russian-made .380ACP Makarov; has worked with all kinds of ammo I've loaded in it including poorly-made reloads, old ammo in poor condition and irregular local production. Never had a FTF, stovepipe or FTE and when jammed with a dud, it was quick and easy to clear.
    Regarding accuracy, my 1914 DWM P-08 "Luger" has printed pretty amazing groups when I made my part handling those odd sights and using plain-Jane Winchester 115gr. FMJ ammo.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    I want to say ALL my 1911's are perfect and they are dang close but my Glock 17 has NEVER had any problems except cheap ammo's primers since 1996. I don't baby the thing, it get a wipe down and little drop of lube plus freshen up the springs every so often ... my 21C has been the same way since I bought it home 5 or so years back. As to accuracy of Glocks versus 1911's, yeah the 1911's are better but if ever called on both are better than my eyes are now.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,980 Senior Member
    Most reliable, Ruger P-89 9mm, it has never failed to feed any type ammo, factory/reload and always goes bang when I pull the trigger.

    Most accurarte is my Dan Wesson Pointman 7 .45 ACP, and darned reliable to boot. It has had a jam I cleared or magazine issue before.
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  • dlddld Member Posts: 375 Member
    Most reliable, for me is my H&K P9S 9mm. Shoots like a dream, accurarte and never fails, second would be my Glock 17 ugly but function-able
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,465 Senior Member
    My handgun stock is limited for now, so my most reliable and accurate is the same gun: Kimber CDP Custom. I had 1 FTE, which was unusual because it was just the one round out of a box of 50, and it hasn't done it again since. I had a Springfield loaded that was reliable and accurate, but didn't like the Kimber Pro-Tac mags I used.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,528 Senior Member
    Mine is my Sig P229. It has never once not cycled a round that i fed it, and is very accurate for a duty pistol.
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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    All of mine are reliable; if one wasn't and it couldn't be fixed, it would go to the used gun counter. My most accurate is my custom Fusion/Kimber CCO that Sam Hatfield built for me last year. It's a bloody laser!

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    My most accurate service-grade pistol has to be my S&W M&P45. IMHO, S&W fixed everything that Glock got wrong!

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    Oh, be quiet.
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • BigboreshooterBigboreshooter Member Posts: 155 Member
    Probably this one, on both counts.....

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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,047 Senior Member
    Don't worry LM. Some folks just have tiny carny hands.

    My most accurate pistol is the Colt Woodsman. In SD, it's either of my 1911's or the Hi-Power clone: all are close enough in accuracy not to matter.

    Reliability? All of them. I don't consider mag issues, recoil spring issues, or extractor spring issues to be "faults" because once I get the right ones in there, they run 100% until equipment failure. My Colt was giving me issues at the SE shoot as I somehow screwed up and oversprung it.
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  • wolf049wolf049 Member Posts: 217 Member
    This Kimber shoots better than I can ever hope to and I've never had reliablity issue with it.

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    wolf049 wrote: »
    This Kimber shoots better than I can ever hope to and I've never had reliablity issue with it.

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    WHAT?? Impossible! Everyone on teh intarwebz knows that Kimbers always jam or blow up or misfire or turn to radioactive dust when fired!
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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    What did I just tell you?
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    And for what it's worth, my old Hardballer still wears a flat MSH, so there!
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    Because I don't have little carny hands!

    Seriously, the arched MSH just feels better to me; I left the flat one on the AMT in a fit of nostalgia. The very first firearm I ever shot was a Colt from Korea that an uncle had, with the arched backstrap. Guess it stuck.
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    First I have nice dainty proportionate hands and the only carny handed dude around here has flat MSHs on his guns last I checked, so there...
    SECOND, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY COLT!!!

    CARNY HANDS!! CARNY HANDS!! CARNY HANDS!!

    (I expect to hear from our resident shrub anytime now...)
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,047 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    First I have nice dainty proportionate hands and the only carny handed dude around here has flat MSHs on his guns last I checked, so there...
    SECOND, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY COLT!!!
    Dainty = girly, aka carny.

    Second: it's not your Colt, it's mine. Don't worry Buttercup, it still has the flat MSH. For now.
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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    :that: :applause:
    “A gun is a tool, no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.”

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  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,978 Senior Member
    1911 Springfield Operator (been reworked internally with trigger, and barrel bushing replaced) 45 ACP.
    Pure stock my Glock 17 is incredibly accurate.
    Both are completely reliable.
    I have used both in high volume tac matches.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,895 Senior Member
    Pistols = handguns = REVOLVERS & pistols
    probably a toss up between a PT 101, 1911, or a baby eagle.
    But, the truth they do not hold a candle to most of my revolvers; the exceptions are a couple of Iver Johnsons.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,759 Senior Member
    Most accurate would be my S&W 4566TSW, but it's too big for CCW, at least for me. Next would be my Ruger P95DC. Both are not finicky eaters; they shoot anything I load them with, and I've never had a problem with either mechanically. I like the tritium sights on the S&W a lot, and the dot sights on the Ruger. Makes getting on target quick 'n' easy. Once I get the new sights on the 1911s I may change my mind, though. Maybe that's why I never remarried; too many choices to stick with just one!:beer::roll2:
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  • ilove22silove22s Senior Member Posts: 1,101 Senior Member
    if you ever shot some 22LR autoloaders you will know reliable when you shoot it.

    For my CF AUTOLOADER, they are:

    These have been my best so far. Its not to say they have been 100% no malfunction, but the best.

    Beretta 92
    CZ 75, 85, P01, SP01
    PO 18.9 LDA
    HK P30
    S&W M&P 9
    XD 45

    there are others, but i dont have alot of ammo down range to make that choice. I will say tho, that i woudlnt have second thoughts about using them in a pinch.
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  • glockman0422glockman0422 Member Posts: 216 Member
    My most reliable and accurate pistol is my Glock 17. It has never had any type of malfuction whatsoever after thousands of rounds. the thing just keeps going and going like the energizer bunny. Plus i can get some pretty awesome groups with it. A close second has got to be my Bulgarian Makarov it has never had any malfunctions either. I just happen to shoot the Glock better since i have a lot more trigger time with it. My carry gun is a Keltek Pf9 and although it has never had any malfunctions either its a bit harder to shoot accurately. I mean its accurate enough but just not as accurate as the other two.

    Here is a picture of an attempt to do a smiley face with my Glock 17. Not exactly a smiley face but close eough:

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  • BPsniperBPsniper Banned Posts: 1,961 Senior Member
    LMLarsen wrote: »
    CARNY HANDS!! CARNY HANDS!! CARNY HANDS!!

    (I expect to hear from our resident shrub anytime now...)

    Step to the window and smile. :devil:
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  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,582 Senior Member
    Keeping the 22LR's out as this is the personal defense area and as BP I only keep reliable guns, but stuff happens as Mr. Murphy is alive and well so do learn those drills, I would say that the 10mm Colt Delta Elite which I shoot very little is the most accurate, it is a veritable tack driver, a Colt Gold Cup Government series 80 and a Kimber Warrior come close but I got to work those a bit more to get there.

    I shoot most often a Glock 34 so groups are in the Delta Elite 10mm neighborhood, it is my IPSC gun so I also do dry fire wiht it, on PPC matches or something along those lines, always get those mixed up I use a modified, a lot, Glock 17 that does just a tad better, out of a possible 400 points my best score with it is 394, 19 being on the X spot, still a ways to go as someone better not show up and someone must be sick for me to win! The FN 57 is also a very accurate gun but expensive to feed so I don't shoot it as often as I would like to.

    The one that was a great surprise is the 9mm HK P2000 SK, a very small pocket version of the regular HK P2000 that will every single time with plinking ammo shooting as fast as I work the sights keeps every round in a 8.5x11" page off hand at 25 yards and the second 10 round magazine can keep all rounds in a 5.5" target. That one qualifies as a gun I want to have 2 of.
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,943 Senior Member
    If I have to keep a gun running with no more than the parts it came from the factory with, I trust the 1911 farther than anything else, but the fact is, I've been doing the instructor/armorer thing for a grand total of about eight years now, and 14 years of gun sales before and concurrent with the early part of it. I've seen a lot of failures for a lot of reasons. Frankly, at this point, I don't 100% trust ANY of them:

    1. The gun can fail. Cases in point - I shoot my OLD Glock 22 A LOT, and it was shot A LOT before I got it. I've broken the trigger pin, the locking block pin (twice), and worn out a couple of firing pins and firing pin safeties to the point they don't interface as they should. Nature of the beast - fully expect to see it again. On the flip side, I've had the mainspring housing pin of a 1911 snap in half at the center groove. Totally unexpected, and probably just a fluke void in the steel. Never seen it before - probably never will see again. . .hopefully

    2. If the gun doesn't fail, the mag will. Cases in point - I've seen tired mag springs on double stack guns have all sorts of trouble feeding the last few rounds. While Wilson Combat mags are often described as a near "cure all" for 1911 feeding issues, my Colt Commander does not like them. Then of course there's the gun show commandos who wonder why their $2000 pistol won't run with a $15 Ram Line magazine in it.

    3. If the mag doesn't fail, the ammo will. With new, factory ammo, I've witnessed hard primers, dud primers, no flash holes drilled in the case, no powder in the case, case crushed by the bullet not being seated right, and bullet seated backwards.

    4. If all of that is OK, the operator will fail, be it in technique or maintenance. Limp wristing, thumbs in wrong places, accidentally putting the safety on or forgetting to take it of, and of course, "Cleaning? What's that?"

    So I pretty much take it for granted that a gun is going to choke on me at some point for some reason. This being the case, I think it's more important that the operator know how to deal with the problems common to the weapon type and keep the gun in the fight than lay awake nights debating models. If you've got quality goods, know how to run it, keep it maintained, and feed it good ammo, you've done all you can. The dividing line between the men and the boys is knowing how to clear the problems when that isn't enough.

    As for accurate. . . Put 'em all in a Ransom Rest, and all but the cheapest and cheesiest will probably shoot a better group than most of us can with the slickest and most expensive. It's not an attribute I sweat about on a combat gun - it's more a matter of how well YOU can manage the gun in question.
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  • BPsniperBPsniper Banned Posts: 1,961 Senior Member
    I don't and won't own an unreliable gun.
    "....the true general purpose big-game cartridges used in this country come in but two calibers, .30 and 7mm. (the .270 Win. is merely a slightly aberrant 7mm whose bullets are .007" undersize.) -Finn Aagaard - American Rifleman, December 1986
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,582 Senior Member
    Small piece of advice, when posting groups include the distance the target was set up, it is a important part of the equation. Then how you shot such group/s, offhand, on sandbags and so on, ammo choice counts too. Modifications are nice to know as well, is the trigger on your Glock a standard one or has it been worked on, etc.
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,651 Senior Member
    BPsniper wrote: »
    I don't and won't own an unreliable gun.


    You are wise at times.:applause:
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