Pig with a .45 ACP!!!

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  • NJSOGNJSOG Member Posts: 101 Member
    Try using A Barnes Bullet. Hit a hog in the vitals and it's not getting up.


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    NJSOG wrote: »
    Try using A Barnes Bullet. Hit a hog in the vitals and it's not getting up.


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    I am anti-Barnes.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 10,026 Senior Member
    Very cool.

    When you going to do the testing?
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Very cool.

    When you going to do the testing?

    It rained last night and this morning. Starting to clear up now. Maybe this afternoon. Any recommendations on procedures?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I'd try for meat only. Then meat and bone. Same bullet of course.

    The hams are only so big. If I do multiples of same Bullet, I won't have room to do multiple calibers.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,121 Senior Member
    Sounds like "SCIENCE" is a lot more fun than I considered it in school....Good work!
    Great shooting on the fly too!!!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,296 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I am anti-Barnes.

    We really got to work on that. I'm very against the " will have-to-use-non-lead-everywhere-in-California-by-2019" hippie hoopla, but having seen how accurate they can be, how they penetrate, and seen three deer die REALLY fast from them, I can find no fault with the bullets themselves. They're really a lot like a hard cast bullet. . .with the added benefit of an archery broadhead on the front end once they open up.
    WWJMBD?

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,052 Senior Member
    Wambi's cousin shot pigs with a .45 acp.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    The hog ham is shot. The data is downloading. Stand by for results in another thread.

    SCIENCE!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NJSOGNJSOG Member Posts: 101 Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I am anti-Barnes.

    I don't think you like girls either. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    NJSOG wrote: »
    I don't think you like girls either. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,296 Senior Member
    Ahhhhh. . .the love!

    :hug:
    WWJMBD?

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  • timctimc Senior Member Posts: 6,684 Senior Member
    I have dropped a few pigs at close rang with .45acp. I found FMJ is better than HP ammo it needs to be something on the hot side and they need to be close. I agree it is not a primary caliber for pig hunting!
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  • NJSOGNJSOG Member Posts: 101 Member
    Zee your a funny guy.


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  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,121 Senior Member
    My cousin used a .45 ACP to dispatch hogs at close range (hunting with dogs in South Texas). No problems. But, given the range you are hunting at, I just don't think any "pistol" round will perform that well.

    Btw - the ham tests are fantastic.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    My cousin used a .45 ACP to dispatch hogs at close range (hunting with dogs in South Texas). No problems. But, given the range you are hunting at, I just don't think any "pistol" round will perform that well.

    Btw - the ham tests are fantastic.


    Thanks. Yes, up close and personal, I'm sure the results would be quite different. As the distance grows..........no so much.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    That was some good shooting Zee. Got a bunch here in Fl. When they start to run they are impressively quick. Hitting one with a follow-up shot is impressive. Good work.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    Thanks. I was pretty excited about this hunt. Even if the bullet performance was less than expected. It was still fun from start to finish.

    I enjoy distance shooting. But, I prefer being sneaky and getting up close.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    I shot one back in 1990 or 91 that was wounded and decided to charge my friend. Hog was running right by me and I had my 1911 with 230 gr fmj. Point blank in the head...DRT. I wonder if an XTP loaded warm would expand properly. I use them a bunch. I also load them in sabots for Muzzleloader. Dropped an 8 point and two hogs on opening day 10-23-2-10. Worked fine in that situation. I was using 100 grs pyrodex. Not super hot but faster than a 1911. I bet and XTP or some Cor-bons might do a bit better. I hear the 200 gr Cor-bons loaded to a moderate level in 44 spl work great. Don't see why it wouldn't work in the 1911.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    I really like the XTP bullets that I have used. Both in my .44 Mags and my .45 Colts, as well as the .445 Super Mag and .430 SJS.

    Perfect performance.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NJSOGNJSOG Member Posts: 101 Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I really like the XTP bullets that I have used. Both in my .44 Mags and my .45 Colts, as well as the .445 Super Mag and .430 SJS.

    Perfect performance.

    I still think you don't girls. Barnes Bullets out perform XTP AMMO. I never had to take a second shot on any of the big game I have shot. I shot a 300 lb wild boar and the guy I was with asked "What was that flying though the air ?
    My reply was meat !


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 21,263 Senior Member
    NJSOG wrote: »
    I still think you don't girls. Barnes Bullets out perform XTP AMMO. I never had to take a second shot on any of the big game I have shot. I shot a 300 lb wild boar and the guy I was with asked "What was that flying though the air ?
    My reply was meat !


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    I can get 200 XTP bullets for the price of 50 Barnes. To get the same terminal performance and accuracy bullet for bullet at a fraction of the cost just makes sense in my book.

    You can stick to Barnes and girls. I'll take women and XTPs. :up:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    The XTP's seem to be every bit as accurate as my best cast lead bullet loads. It wasnt until your for science postings that I saw their terminal performance.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,036 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    Interesting results, not quite what I would have expected.

    Do you think a lighter bullet traveling much faster say 185 gr bullet at 1200fps would perform better, or is the distance just too much for the .45acp?

    I may be wrong, but I think a lighter bullet would just loose velocity faster and terminal velocity would be about or close to the same. And the heavier bullet may have penetrated better than a lighter one. So I don't think it would have made much difference. Hey, you killed the pig. With a 45 ACP which is designed for REAL Up Close and Personal work, you did about as well as could be expected.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,036 Senior Member
    NJSOG wrote: »
    I still think you don't girls. Barnes Bullets out perform XTP AMMO. I never had to take a second shot on any of the big game I have shot. I shot a 300 lb wild boar and the guy I was with asked "What was that flying though the air ?
    My reply was meat !

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    I believe you when you say Barnes makes great bullets. My son has used them in his .270 AND his .25-06 with good results.

    But I just don't think at the ranges Zee is shooting hogs and the MV of a .45 ACP that it takes that quality of bullet. And, I don't think you can even tell the difference in bullets at that speed and range. I doubt any bullet would expand well at that range speed with a .45 ACP. The bullet is starting out under a thousand feet per second>

    I would bet money that he's right on in saying the reason it didn't expand was the low velocity.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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