My J frame is one short

104RFAST

http://www.cleveland19.com/story/32814897/men-chant-black-lives-matter-before-viciously-attacking-white-victims May have to
upgrade my J frame against the packs of Feral Human's

Teach

And these scumbags are still pirating oxygen decent people could be breathing? A high-capacity .45 auto with a couple of spare magazines could have solved that problem!
Jerry

Zee

About the only time I carry a .357 Mag J Frame these days is going to the mailbox, working in the yard, or riding a bike with the kids in the neighborhood.

And I still carry a reload.

Zee

Though, Sam would have argued that the "Baddies" in this instance were in reality a Ninja Hit Squad. For they alone attack in numbers and the average citizen need not worry about multiple assailants. The victims in this case should hurry out and buy asteroid insurance as they have fallen upon serious bad luck.

snake284

Zee wrote: »

About the only time I carry a .357 Mag J Frame these days is going to the mailbox, working in the yard, or riding a bike with the kids in the neighborhood.

And I still carry a reload.

I love my 1911 and my revolver, but I still feel a bit naked with them. That's what I really love about 12-14 capacity staggered mags like with a Glock or S&W or some of the other DA Semi Autos.

breamfisher

Zee wrote: »

Though, Sam would have argued that the "Baddies" in this instance were in reality a Ninja Hit Squad. For they alone attack in numbers and the average citizen need not worry about multiple assailants. The victims in this case should hurry out and buy asteroid insurance as they have fallen upon serious bad luck.

Is it sad that we were thinking similar thoughts?

Just reinforces that when you're outside of "the average situation" things can go really bad.

Jayhawker

breamfisher wrote: »

Is it sad that we were thinking similar thoughts?

I was just thinking the same thing....

Fisheadgib

Next thing you know, you guys will waste your time and start practicing with your pistols beyond five feet.

breamfisher

That would be keen.

Jayhawker

Actually, I'm honestly waiting for these morons to make a critical error in the victim selection process...and anxiously awaiting the video...

early

Pack runners are generally cowards. One or two shots from any firearm would have scatterd them.

waipapa13

early wrote: »

Pack runners are generally cowards. One or two shots from any firearm would have scatterd them.

I used to think similarly, but do you recall that family in the Walmart parking lot in Arizona? Like two or three got shot and they were still going at 5-6 policemen, one officer had to cover himself while the other administered first aid to him as it went down, it was nuts!!!

In certain situations I think a pack can be far worse and harder to stop then we like to think, especially when they have a "cause"

breamfisher

early wrote: »

Pack runners are generally cowards. One or two shots from any firearm would have scatterd them.

Generally is the operative word. If the alpha is pretty motivated, or there's two motivated ones with several hangers-on, well, your one or two shots might or might not be a good stopper.

Teach

Anybody remember the video of that mob in Memphis a few months ago, the one where a bunch of thugs attacked people in a grocery store parking lot? That crowd was big enough that it would have probably required a magazine change before the ones in the back got the message that they were in danger. I carry my 1911 and two spare mags for a Memphis job these days.
Jerry

Fisheadgib

I recently discovered that there exists a 10 and 15 round magazine for an LCP. I've got a 10 rounder on the way to try out for use as a spare. I'd like to see a 10 rounder for my Shield.

Zee

breamfisher wrote: »

Generally is the operative word. If the alpha is pretty motivated, or there's two motivated ones with several hangers-on, well, your one or two shots might or might not be a good stopper.

:thumbup:

Every plan requires a "Most likely course of action" and a "Most dangerous course of action" to be viable. They must be realistic and reasonable, of course. But, they must be considered within the realm of occurrence and planned for with an equally realistic response.

Meteor Insurance need not apply.

horselips

I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to lose some sympathy for victims who aren't carrying. Unless you live in NY, CA, MD, IL, DC, or some other wacko state, you can get a permit (if necessary) and carry. I never, ever "leave home without it." Anybody who does go unarmed isn't necessarily asking for it, but don't be surprised if you get it. And don't whine.

Jayhawker

horselips wrote: »

I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to lose some sympathy for victims who aren't carrying. Unless you live in NY, CA, MD, IL, DC, or some other wacko state, you can get a permit (if necessary) and carry. I never, ever "leave home without it." Anybody who does go unarmed isn't necessarily asking for it, but don't be surprised if you get it. And don't whine.

I can't argue with that sentiment.....

NCFUBAR

Okay, 7 attackers ... my math thoughts are kinda like ... the chances of this happening, while lately getting better, are not that great but you gotta think it could be possible.

Of the 7 thugs 3 or 4 will retreat after the first 2 thugs fall down so that means 2 or so more to engage. Given my general thought I double tap (I do not believe in 1 shot stops so each gets 2 first and repeat as needed until ammo is gone) so my 9+1 EMP has fired approximately 8 rounds and is lookin' to be fed. Back to 9+1 for those who retreated but choose to mount a 2nd charge flanking you and with weapons by then. I only carry 1 extra mag on my person so that is my last feeding.

Now my other thing is out 7 male victims, none were armed? At 12:30am I am armed if legally possible and if the other 6 with me weren't ... sorry for them but I am covering my ass and shame on them for not carrying.

KSU Firefighter

Boarding house rules, everybody gets one, to begin with.

Teach

My AMT Backup .45 ACP is 5+1, with a standard 1911 mag as a reload, once concealability becomes a moot point.
Jerry

snake284

NCFUBAR wrote: »

Okay, 7 attackers ... my math thoughts are kinda like ... the chances of this happening, while lately getting better, are not that great but you gotta think it could be possible.

Of the 7 thugs 3 or 4 will retreat after the first 2 thugs fall down so that means 2 or so more to engage. Given my general thought I double tap (I do not believe in 1 shot stops so each gets 2 first and repeat as needed until ammo is gone) so my 9+1 EMP has fired approximately 8 rounds and is lookin' to be fed. Back to 9+1 for those who retreated but choose to mount a 2nd charge flanking you and with weapons by then. I only carry 1 extra mag on my person so that is my last feeding.

Now my other thing is out 7 male victims, none were armed? At 12:30am I am armed if legally possible and if the other 6 with me weren't ... sorry for them but I am covering my ass and shame on them for not carrying.

I believe in always planning for the worst case. It costs relatively little to be prepared.

Diver43

Have to be honest. I did not used to carry a spare magazine. Now there is always one in my pocket when I carry

Jeeper

KSU Firefighter wrote: »

Boarding house rules, everybody gets one, to begin with.

This. If there are only one or two, double taps would be a good choice. More than 3, and I'm going to make sure EVERYBODY regrets choosing me as a victim.

One shot may not stop them, but it's bound to at least give them second thoughts.

Luis

Jack Burton

If I had to be out and about at half past midnight the single stacks are home in the safe, a G26 IWB and a G17 or 19 spare mag in my pocket would be my load out. For these SOB's a black night probably matters too.