There is harvested corn all over the field. And pig tracks. Lots........of pig tracks.
I'm gonna need a bigger boat!
Could we get a normal-sized foot beside that print for a good scale. It looks big, but with your kid's foot as a reference, it messes things up. How 'bout using a ruler? English units, no metric.
I love when Zee tells his huntin' adventures. I bet he moves with cat-like swiftness too. Good job Zee-man. I am a bit envious......sounds like a great time.
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Uncle FesterSenior MemberPosts: 1,087Senior Member
From the get go, the farmer told me to leave them where they lay. In plowed fields, I do. If I shoot them in standing wheat or corn, I try to drag them to the field's edge if possible. Just for my own peace of mind as the buzzards and yotes create about a 20 foot circle of destruction when demolishing a dead pig.
But, to answer your question. They are rendered to bones rather quickly and the farmer just plows over them.
Have you ever tried using a supressor as part of your strategy?
I love when Zee tells his huntin' adventures. I bet he moves with cat-like swiftness too. Good job Zee-man. I am a bit envious......sounds like a great time.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Could we get a normal-sized foot beside that print for a good scale. It looks big, but with your kid's foot as a reference, it messes things up. How 'bout using a ruler? English units, no metric.
Why you gotta be so hurtful?
Hurtful, I say!!!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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breamfisherSenior MemberPosts: 13,245Senior Member
Nice job on the stalk and shoot. You don't use an illuminated reticle, right? Just rely on ambient light, or use flashlights to identify and spot targets?
Nice job on the stalk and shoot. You don't use an illuminated reticle, right? Just rely on ambient light, or use flashlights to identify and spot targets?
No illumination at all.
Maybe some toys, though.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Could we get a normal-sized foot beside that print for a good scale. It looks big, but with your kid's foot as a reference, it messes things up. How 'bout using a ruler? English units, no metric.
I knew this was coming...
Ernie
"The Un-Tactical"
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Ernie BishopSenior MemberPosts: 7,102Senior Member
This just screams suppressed subsonics to me. Instead on a loud bang flash, why not a 500 gr suppressed .458 Socom? That's about 1200 FPE at muzzle. Better than that about 1000 FPE at distance even though it is a mortar shot over 100 yards. With a 75 yard zero there is a 3.5 inch drop at 100, but at 50 yards only 1.2 high
Still, I would think it would give you more chances at pigs if they weren't spooked. You could do it with a 45-70 as well.
Just a thought.
D
"A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
I'd LOVE to suppress a 45-70. A 405 at sub sonic speed would easily kill what needs killing. Actually, we could do it with the 430 SJS. 300 grain cast bullet would do the trick as well.
Better variation on the theme would be to start with a Ruger 77/44 and do the whole integrally-suppressed barrel thing. A DeLisle Carbine with maximum huevos. A 300 grain WFN .44 would do the trick with a relatively small charge of fast pistol powder generating a lower overall volume of gas to bleed off. Probably use a tumble lube bullet to minimize the amount of goop going into the baffles.
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I have GOT to get out of this (*&(*^*#*&%(^%$@$%^$(&;^$#!ing state!!!
To me..........useless. It is too limited in distance and trajectory critical. I can shoot more animals in a group not having to worry about trajectory and distance with full bore ammo that is..........a little quieter than normal......than I ever could with sub ammo. And.......full bore ammo is more effective.
Believe you me.......pigs ain't stupid. First buddy that gets hit (even with sub ammo) and "roinks out" or beats feet across the field...........the rest don't just stand there, "Hmmm I wonder what could ever be wrong with Wilbur? No matter. Let's continue minding our own business of eating corn."
Yeah........that don't happen.
I can use quieter full bore ammo........pop 3-4............give it awhile.........and the rest will calm down or eventually come back.
If not, hey! I get to come back another night!!!! Win!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Believe you me.......pigs ain't stupid. First buddy that gets hit (even with sub ammo) and "roinks out". . .
:spittingcoffee: You heard it here first folks. I'm now wondering how many you have to bag in a night for it to be considered an episode of "roink rage". . .
:spittingcoffee: You heard it here first folks. I'm now wondering how many you have to bag in a night for it to be considered an episode of "roink rage". . .
That's they fight each other.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
To me..........useless. It is too limited in distance and trajectory critical. I can shoot more animals in a group not having to worry about trajectory and distance with full bore ammo that is..........a little quieter than normal......than I ever could with sub ammo. And.......full bore ammo is more effective.
Believe you me.......pigs ain't stupid. First buddy that gets hit (even with sub ammo) and "roinks out" or beats feet across the field...........the rest don't just stand there, "Hmmm I wonder what could ever be wrong with Wilbur? No matter. Let's continue minding our own business of eating corn."
Yeah........that don't happen.
I can use quieter full bore ammo........pop 3-4............give it awhile.........and the rest will calm down or eventually come back.
If not, hey! I get to come back another night!!!! Win!
It's not fair, ethical or sporting, it is pest control! I am betting you have the same or similar gear as the guys from Jager Pro.
So given your superior skills behind a trigger, head shots. Heaviest, quietest bullet you can use ( no ROINKS! ), at least that would be my idea to quell more in less time.
I see you have a cottage industry. Maybe you can sell the meat to China as organic pork!
"A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
When hunting hogs I like to use a bigger bullet, like in my .243 I like something in the area of 100 grains. Having said that, I've killed them with 87 ish grain bullets but I try to put them in the ear. The piggy can NOT stand an ear ache and he falls down every time.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
To me..........useless. It is too limited in distance and trajectory critical. I can shoot more animals in a group not having to worry about trajectory and distance with full bore ammo that is..........a little quieter than normal......than I ever could with sub ammo. And.......full bore ammo is more effective.
Believe you me.......pigs ain't stupid. First buddy that gets hit (even with sub ammo) and "roinks out" or beats feet across the field...........the rest don't just stand there, "Hmmm I wonder what could ever be wrong with Wilbur? No matter. Let's continue minding our own business of eating corn."
Yeah........that don't happen.
I can use quieter full bore ammo........pop 3-4............give it awhile.........and the rest will calm down or eventually come back.
If not, hey! I get to come back another night!!!! Win!
Our pigs here seem to be a little more skiddish than yours, but sub ammo won't make much difference. One pig hits the ground and the whole bunch will flush like a covey of quail, Sub ammo or Full power. It don't matter.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
The best thing you could do to take out a bunch a pigs at once is take an AR or a Garand. You could probably get at least 3 or 4 like that, maybe more.
Edited to Add: Opps! I forgot to add, But that wouldn't be any fun for me! I'm more into a surgical assasination.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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breamfisherSenior MemberPosts: 13,245Senior Member
Ok. . .he's shooting nuisance pigs by the truckload, taking trophies from the prime specimens, conducting autopsies on some of them, cutting others into pieces to use for ballistic testing, taking and posting detailed photos of all of the above. . .
And you're calling for RESTRAINT on a thread like this?!?!?!????? Leave it to the .270 shooter. :jester:
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I thought the next line was going to be out came my knife.
I can't recall.....old ya know.
Have you used the 25-06 yet ?
Have you ever tried using a supressor as part of your strategy?
Not today.
In deer and antelope. Not pigs, yet.
Why you gotta be so hurtful?
Hurtful, I say!!!
That track was smaller than I thought....
Nice job on the stalk and shoot. You don't use an illuminated reticle, right? Just rely on ambient light, or use flashlights to identify and spot targets?
No illumination at all.
Maybe some toys, though.
Hmmmm, You seem taller on the G&A Forum. Nice running.
I knew this was coming...
"The Un-Tactical"
So many things could be said here.................................
"The Un-Tactical"
This just screams suppressed subsonics to me. Instead on a loud bang flash, why not a 500 gr suppressed .458 Socom? That's about 1200 FPE at muzzle. Better than that about 1000 FPE at distance even though it is a mortar shot over 100 yards. With a 75 yard zero there is a 3.5 inch drop at 100, but at 50 yards only 1.2 high
Still, I would think it would give you more chances at pigs if they weren't spooked. You could do it with a 45-70 as well.
Just a thought.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Better variation on the theme would be to start with a Ruger 77/44 and do the whole integrally-suppressed barrel thing. A DeLisle Carbine with maximum huevos. A 300 grain WFN .44 would do the trick with a relatively small charge of fast pistol powder generating a lower overall volume of gas to bleed off. Probably use a tumble lube bullet to minimize the amount of goop going into the baffles.
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. . .
I have GOT to get out of this (*&(*^*#*&%(^%$@$%^$(&;^$#!ing state!!!
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I've played with it. I've used it. I have some.
To me..........useless. It is too limited in distance and trajectory critical. I can shoot more animals in a group not having to worry about trajectory and distance with full bore ammo that is..........a little quieter than normal......than I ever could with sub ammo. And.......full bore ammo is more effective.
Believe you me.......pigs ain't stupid. First buddy that gets hit (even with sub ammo) and "roinks out" or beats feet across the field...........the rest don't just stand there, "Hmmm I wonder what could ever be wrong with Wilbur? No matter. Let's continue minding our own business of eating corn."
Yeah........that don't happen.
I can use quieter full bore ammo........pop 3-4............give it awhile.........and the rest will calm down or eventually come back.
If not, hey! I get to come back another night!!!! Win!
:spittingcoffee: You heard it here first folks. I'm now wondering how many you have to bag in a night for it to be considered an episode of "roink rage". . .
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
That's they fight each other.
It's not fair, ethical or sporting, it is pest control! I am betting you have the same or similar gear as the guys from Jager Pro.
https://jagerpro.com/thermal/
So given your superior skills behind a trigger, head shots. Heaviest, quietest bullet you can use ( no ROINKS! ), at least that would be my idea to quell more in less time.
I see you have a cottage industry. Maybe you can sell the meat to China as organic pork!
http://southwestfarmpress.com/livestock/heres-how-livestock-producers-can-profit-feral-swine-invasion?page=1
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Our pigs here seem to be a little more skiddish than yours, but sub ammo won't make much difference. One pig hits the ground and the whole bunch will flush like a covey of quail, Sub ammo or Full power. It don't matter.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
YEAH but somethings are better left unsaid
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Also, I didn't realize you were a Pig Dentist!!!
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Edited to Add: Opps! I forgot to add, But that wouldn't be any fun for me! I'm more into a surgical assasination.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I know it's the wrong chambering. Bear with me...
Yeah, but if he gets that sociable with 10 or 15 dead pigs his wife might make him sleep on the porch!
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Ok. . .he's shooting nuisance pigs by the truckload, taking trophies from the prime specimens, conducting autopsies on some of them, cutting others into pieces to use for ballistic testing, taking and posting detailed photos of all of the above. . .
And you're calling for RESTRAINT on a thread like this?!?!?!????? Leave it to the .270 shooter. :jester:
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee