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Officer charged with manslaughter in Minn. shooting
Big Chief
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This is the case where the guys GF videoed him.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/16/officer-charged-with-manslaughter-in-minn-shooting-aftermath-caught-on-facebook-live.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/16/officer-charged-with-manslaughter-in-minn-shooting-aftermath-caught-on-facebook-live.html
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Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
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Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
If the mere mention of a firearm elicits this type of response in a police officer IMHO he got no business being a police officer....
With the prevalence of civilians legally carrying firearms today, LEO's need some serious training from the get go on the appropriate way to deal with that situation.
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Jerry
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My interactions with LEOs in Kansas and Michigan have been uneventful. Except the gal working at the Sheriffs Department after we moved and I told her I needed to register 20 handguns....and prior to the passing of the Kansas Preemption Law, there were a number of cities that had their own rather stupid laws...like Topeka...where possession of a loaded magazine was a concealed weapons charge with every round in the magazine being a seperate charge....and some of the cops could be really stupid about that one....
Alabama doesn't, but since some of the states I travel to/through do require notification, I have my pistol permit (CCL) in the same slot of my wallet as my Driver's Lic and proof of Ins. I hand the officer all three when he/she asks and place my hands back on the steering wheel until they tell me to do otherwise.
Most of the time, their response has been, "without reaching for it, where is your firearm?" I tell them, and the interaction continues until they finish with me. No fuss, no muss and a few times I believe that's why I got off with a warning.
He had a valid permit for his handgun and was stopped because an officer thought he"looked like" a suspect in a robbery. I guess, in the officers mind it was a good reason to execute him...
This officer was being cautious. I feel his caution was overly dramatic, but it certainly raised my level of caution as well.
I know many cops who feel lawfully concealed weapons are one of the best things to happen to crime-fighting. There always will be those who feel just as the libs feel, that the only people who should be armed are cops and military. Those guys will be the enemy one day. It's too bad.
Anyway, when I was pulled over I handed him by DL and permit, and let him know I was carrying. He said something to the effect of, "Thank you, sir. Do you mind stepping out of the car and walking to the rear?" I complied, walking in front of him. Once there, presumably in view of his dash cam, he asked me where I was carrying, if I would mind lifting my cover garment, and if he could take the firearm for "officer safety." I did so, he took it, didn't even bother to unload it, and placed it in his vehicle. We then went through the traffic stop, and he handed me the handgun, advising I lower my speed and "have as nice of a day as I can, now." I was doing 95+ on the interstate, so the fine was going to be up there. Anyway, the officer was a younger fellow, looked to be in his late 20s, and he was extremely professional in his handling of the situation. I never saw him move towards his sidearm, though he might have had his hand near it while escorting me to the rear of the vehicle.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/16/philando-castile-shooting-officer-yanez-acquitted-manslaughter.html
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The Jury deliberated all week, they spoke to the Judge on a couple of occasions, they asked to go over testimony again and the Judge told them to go from memory, they jury had a hard time with this, they spent at least 30 hours on it themselves. I don't know where I come down on this, but the dead guy said he had a gun and after that the exchange between him and the cop was confusing, hindsight is 20/20.
Sounds like a corrupt judge to me. Same type of city corruption that let Ramos and Cicinelli walk after the beating death of Kelly Thomas.
Ehhhh.
I use a Level 3 retention holster. Unhooding, unlocking, and drawing takes time. I ain't got time if someone is ready with gun in hand. Even if they say they are armed.
Plenty of video of suspects declaring they are armed only to shoot/shoot at the officer regardless.
You've never put a hand on your CCW just in case? Maybe not in film view, but in your car when you see a shady character walking close by?
Just is what it is. Be cordial with everyone, but everyone has a potential to be dangerous until determined otherwise. And this determination doesn't require overt overbearing-ness, either. Conversation, subtle observations, etc.
That advice should include interacting with the guy at your car window who is acting a little twitchy. Just because he's wearing a badge doesn't necessarily mean he can't be a steroid abuser who is ready to shoot first so he doesn't have to ask questions later. I had about half the Nashville PD SWAT team as students in auto body repair night classes I taught over a period of a couple of years, and about half of them fit that profile. Spooky guys!
Jerry
ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
I doubt that, the cops were pulling over a guy with dozens of traffic stops on his record, it was not his first rodeo, that being said, Yanez had back up with him, like Dan said earlier, he could have just backed up and called in the cavalry, especially with a kid and a woman in the car, but, I was not there. I would describe a judge as liberal in MN, a liberal in MN is not the same as a liberal in GA.
Sadly, we're already seeing this growing trend. Cops follow the law, or at least that's what they're supposed to do. However, when unconstitutional laws are passed or laws that encroach on our freedoms get passed through legislation, it is the law enforcement officer who enforces these draconian laws without question. Most, if not all, screening processes in law enforcement is geared towards recruiting followers instead of leaders. Granted there are good honest cops out there but they'll eventually get replaced by mindless robots who lick the boots of their political masters.
It doesn't mean he is or isn't a steroid abuser, or twitchy, of the department failed him with poor psychological follow up after a previous near death experience perhaps?
Too many what ifs.
Concealed carry is legal here it's all about where you live. If you live by a population center forget about it but up on the northern side a permit is available and valid state wide.
Jerry
ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite