.35 Remington Doe

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 20,737 Senior Member
My friend called me this morning and matter of factly said, "Here is the game plan. I'm gonna help a guy with load work on his .22-250 at 2:30 this afternoon. I'm gonna get it done as quickly as possible. Then, I'm gonna call you and you're gonna come over and shoot another deer."

My response? "Ok."

So, 2:45 rolls around and my phone rings. "Come on."

"Let me put my shoes on and grab my stuff. Be right there."

"You hunt barefoot. You don't need shoes."

Which is sometimes true. But, I threw on some shoes just in case.

I arrived at his place in a little warmer temps than we've had the past few days. Yuck! But, I'd rather be outside than in........so let's get it on.

We corned the road and climbed up on the knoll. Today I'd brought my TC G2 with 14" MGM .35 Remington barrel shooting 180gr Hornady XTP handloads.

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With the warmer temp, things were kinda slow at first. Eventually, so younger deer made an appearance.

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Then, a herd of axis bucks showed up and started pushing the deer around.

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It's interesting that axis bucks lose their horns at different times of the year. So, you can have some with horns and some without any given month.

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This boy, though not huge, had some serious daggers on top!

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Between the band of axis and a herd of cattle that came through the draw, it wasn't looking good for the deer.

My friend was not happy.

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So, we backed out and crawled along a stone retaining wall to the other side of the knoll and a view of the flats.

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Here, I set up next to a persimmon bush and leaned over the top of the retaining wall. for cover and support. Actually rather comfortable. And, we waited.

The temps began to slowly fall as the sun got lower in the sky, and the deer began to move. Coming from the opposite hill and crossing the flats, the numbers began to increase until we had a pretty good group below us. Young does with yearlings, small bucks, and a couple good sized suckers. We whispered and glassed over those below us and he finally picked out a doe he wanted me to shoot. But, she was currently obscured by some brush and I waited. While doing so, I see another doe come around the corner of the knoll and immediately see that she is somewhat emaciated. Her ribs and backbone are prominent and protruding from under her skin. I slowly look over my shoulder at my friend and he mouths, "Shoot THAT one!"

Right on.

And then she goes behind some brush. Figures.

The next 10 minutes are spent waiting for a clear shot. She moves around feeding, but always obscured by brush, another deer, or facing the wrong way. Then, I notice the deer getting antsy. Looking left, I see the axis approaching. Crap! My doe takes a couple steps forward towards them as if trying to decide what to do. There is my chance!

Quartering slightly towards me at 50 yards, I place the reticle low in her chest and right behind the shoulder. "BOOM!"

The gun goes off and I see her hunch slightly. Then, she begins to walk forward. Not run..........walk. I look behind me at my friend who has been watching her with binos. "She's hit", he says. Looking back, I see her briskly walking away in a half circle down into the grass. She stops, splays her legs, and immediately falls over...........dead. She traveled a total of 31 yards after impact.

A very peculiar and anti-climactic reaction. But, definitive. Arriving at the POI, I begin to pace off her route of travel to determine how far she'd gone. In the process, I'm looking at the blood trail to see how well the bullet had performed. There is a fair amount of blood on the ground. Starting at the POI. Then, about halfway to her final resting place, I find a chunk of lung on the ground.

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Interesting.

And her final place on earth. Entrance side up.

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Here was my firing position. "A" is where she was standing when I shot. The red path shows her half moon path to where she fell at "B". She didn't go far.

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Another fine doe and another fun experience with my friend. By the way, watching an old guy crawls and duck-walk is a jovial sight.

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"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,737 Senior Member
    We returned to the barn, had a few drinks, and sat around visiting and having a peacefully enjoyable time. Looking out the bay door, I notice this buck up on hill with the sunset behind.

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    Life in nice sometimes. God does good work.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Very cool. I believe that is the first time I have seen insides outside from a gunshot.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 11,006 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    We returned to the barn, had a few drinks, and sat around visiting and having a peacefully enjoyable time. Looking out the bay door, I notice this buck up on hill with the sunset behind.

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    Life in nice sometimes. God does good work.

    There's your Christmas card:up:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,737 Senior Member
    Thinking back, I believe it was 1994 the last deer I shot with a .35 Remington. I killed a pig with one around '96 and then doubled on two pigs with one shot using the .35 Remington back in '02 or so. But, that was all with a Contender Carbine.


    Always had a "thing" for the .35 Remington.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,099 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Always had a "thing" for the .35 Remington.
    And you still do.
    Great job.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,737 Senior Member
    Science!

    Gun: 14" MGM Barreled TC G2 Pistol
    Cartridge: .35 Remington
    Bullet: 180gr Hornady XTP
    Muzzle Velocity: 1,958 fps
    Distance: 50 yards
    Angle: Slightly Quartering Towards
    Impact Velocity: 1,798 fps (est)
    Distance Traveled: 31 yards

    Entrance Low Behind Shoulder

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    The bullet broke 1 rib on entrance.

    Thoracic Cavity

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    The bullet struck the left front lobe of the lungs. A portion of the front lobe is what exited the body and was pictured on the ground above. Then, the bullet passed through the side of the heart and exited the right rear lung.

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    I did not think the angle was steep enough to hit the abdomen, but regardless, the diaphragm was compromised and liver damaged. Ballistically speaking, the bullet did not pass through the liver. It exited the back of the thoracic cavity. But, passing so close to the liver, I believe the temporary cavity and the hydrostatic wave caused by the bullet induced the damage to the Liver being as it is not a pliable organ that can stretch and swell. It just tears.

    Exit

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    I am very pleased with the results of this pistol bullet being driven at higher velocities out of the .35 Remington. It penetrated well, obviously expanded, and caused enough hydrostatic damage to damage untouched organs. Causing massive bleeding and actual expulsion of lung tissue. While her outward reaction was subdued, she only traveled a short distance with ample bleeding and expired quickly.

    All in all, well done by the cartridge and bullet.

    I truly love the .358 caliber.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    And well done by you too, Sir. Great hunt and great write-up, as usual. I like the silhouette of the buck.
    "People are responsible to play a role in their own safety." Sheriff David Clarke 2016
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,467 Senior Member
    Excellent!
    Knowledge is essential to living freely and fully; understanding gives knowledge purpose and strength; wisdom is combining the two and applying them appropriately in words and actions.
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    It still knocks em' over.

    Glad your friend got to watch you crawl and duckwalk.:jester:
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,074 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    My friend called me this morning and matter of factly said, "Here is the game plan. I'm gonna help a guy with load work on his .22-250 at 2:30 this afternoon. I'm gonna get it done as quickly as possible. Then, I'm gonna call you and you're gonna come over and shoot another deer."

    My response? "Ok."

    Wow! You really let your friends push you around like that?:tooth:

    Nice effort in The Science of Giblets. Liver data - extra cool!:applause:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
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