Selling the farm........

orchidmanorchidman Senior MemberPosts: 7,728 Senior Member
Orchid farm that is. No, its not me, but one of my friends is getting out of the business.

What has that to do with guns you ask?
Well, the auction was set for yesterday at 2pm so I tucked a bottle of Glenfiddich under my arm and drove over to his place prepared to either celebrate or commiserate with him and keep an eye on him during the auction and the aftermath.

When I got there, I found that the auction was put off till next Tuesday so we sat and drank coffee. During the conversation, talk turned to firearms ( he is the guy that gave me the 1908 Mauser in 10.75X68).

He asked me for advice on a couple of other guns he had then opened his cabinet and showed me what was there.

First out was a Mauser Oberndorf in 8X57. Barrel looked to be in good condition but the rifle had patches of rust on the action etc. (He has had major health problems and has let things go a bit)

Next out was a No 4 Mk I again in original condition and again with some surface rust etc.

3rd out was a Browning semi 12, an A5 again in a similar condition.

The last gun was a Belgian straight stocked SXS 12 ( couldnt find the manufacturers name )

He explained that he didnt know what he was going to do with them as his sons were not interested and his grandson ( who is 18, no drivers lic but drives, or firearms lic and a bit of a loose cannon) is going to be living with him when he moves off the property and he thinks the best thing he could do is sell them to remove temptation.
He asked me if I would find out what they are worth.

At the moment they are probably not worth very much due to their condition but after thinking about it overnight I am going to call him today and offer to clean them up for him then get them valued at my LGS.

Depending on the valuation I will offer to store them till his grandson cleans up his act and gets a Fal or sell them on his behalf.

You can see where this is going dont you................:bang:

I DONT NEED ANY MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!!...................but I have always hankered for an A5........I kinda like the idea of having a second Mauser in the collection.........The SXS has a straight stock and does look nice........The No 4 is to kiwi's what the Garands are to the Americans......

Oh, did I mention that he also has a nice little Anschutz B/A 22...........
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,412 Senior Member
    "Click" - - - - -enable mode engaged! Those guns are just crying for someone to fondle them, particularly if a piece of extra-fine steel wool and a little lightweight oil is involved! Surely someone as compassionate as you wouldn't abandon them in their time of need! John Browning's old standby, the A-5 was really a somewhat mediocre design, with a distinctive recoil impulse that takes a bit of getting used to. Browning shooters called it the "double shuffle". It comes from the barrel recoiling the full length of the shell to extract and eject, then slamming forward into battery, followed by another bump from the bolt as it chambers the next round. It was the first practical approach to an autoloading shotgun, however.

    Give those guns a good foster home, and I'll bet they'll grow on you enough you'll want to file some adoption papers on those lonesome orphans!
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    You're a good man Alec...and given what you've written, I think they would be better off with you...and yes...you need an A5, and a spare SxS is NEVER a bad idea...

    Oh...did I tell you about the brand new box lock 16 gauge SxS I found the other day? 27" barrels, Prince of Wales grip. and splinter fore end?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • WeatherbyWeatherby Senior Member Posts: 4,768 Senior Member
    Oh, did I mention that he also has a nice little Anschutz B/A 22...........
    No you didn't but that would be my cup of tea
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,728 Senior Member
    Forgot to mention that he has about 4 packets of Norma 8x57 ammo, I think they were 197gr bullets, plus some 303 tracer rounds in an old tin in his wardrobe ( thats closet to you guys.......Lol)
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    IN MY HUMBLE OPINION...you should probably adopt the whole family, with the proviso that if the young feller ever removes his head from his 4th point of contact, he could have first option at buying them back...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,106 Senior Member
    I think you should get them valued, then fill out the adoption papers on them post haste! They should go to a home where they will be cared for and treated with respect. :tooth:
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,211 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    I DONT NEED ANY MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!!...................but I have always hankered for an A5........I kinda like the idea of having a second Mauser in the collection.........The SXS has a straight stock and does look nice........The No 4 is to kiwi's what the Garands are to the Americans......

    Oh, did I mention that he also has a nice little Anschutz B/A 22...........

    YOU ALWAYS NEED MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!! What the hell is wrong with you? You always need more guns! Clean them up, offer your place as a foster home. If he eventually wants to sell them, I am sure you will have an opportunity, if the grandson gets his head removed from his behind, then so be it as well. In the mean time, you can hang on to them and take them out every so often to do "function checks" to assure that they are still safe.

    It sounds like a plan to me.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,728 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    YOU ALWAYS NEED MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!! What the hell is wrong with you? You always need more guns! Clean them up, offer your place as a foster home. If he eventually wants to sell them, I am sure you will have an opportunity, if the grandson gets his head removed from his behind, then so be it as well. In the mean time, you can hang on to them and take them out every so often to do "function checks" to assure that they are still safe.

    It sounds like a plan to me.

    Why am I feeling like a reluctant virgin with nymphomaniac tendencies after reading the responses...........?

    This place is evil........:rotflmao:
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,728 Senior Member
    Just got off the phone to him...Will be going over this afternoon to pick up the Mauser, Mk4, SXS and Browning to give them a clean up and then get them valued.

    He is happy that I am helping him, I am happy that I get to play with guns, Bloodhound is happy cos he is going to call over and look at them this afternoon ( casually mentioned to him on the phone what the guns are lol).
    Pity my bank manager isnt into guns as I am picking he wont be happy if I spend more money.......

    Will post up pics later today along with details of serial no's etc.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,211 Senior Member
    Look at it this way...
    I have had to pay good money to buy guns, fondle them, use them, and then send them on their way to buy something different. I have done alright with used ones, but have lost my behind doing that with new ones. But anyway, in other words, I have had to buy the cow in order to drink the milk. You sir, have the opportunity to drink that milk for the price of giving the cow a bath and a barn for it to stay in. Not only that, but you are helping your friend out.

    It just seems like a win/win to me.
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,741 Senior Member
    :popcorn:

    Let me be the voice of reason and say...you could always just buy a few of them...preferable the No.4mk1 first followed by the A5.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,035 Senior Member
    Give him the value of each gun.
    Then, ask what he would sell all of them to you for?
    No hassles on his part and he will be done with them.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,844 Senior Member
    Give him the value of each gun.
    Then, ask what he would sell all of them to you for?
    No hassles on his part and he will be done with them.
    Verily I say unto you, the goose slaying pastor speaketh the truth.
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,728 Senior Member
    Give him the value of each gun.
    Then, ask what he would sell all of them to you for?
    No hassles on his part and he will be done with them.

    Good call Ernie. Thats what I had in mind.

    I do know that he will be struggling with finances as his wife left him a few years back and half the proceeds from the business will be going to her. What she doesnt get, his daughter and grand son will probably get their hands on. Add in the fact that the orchid export business will be selling for rock bottom dollars due to the current economic crisis and he will be lucky to have enough to survive on. Will be trying to get top dollar for him if I can....even at the expense of not giving them a home myself.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    Alec, I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know, but let me remind you.....
    Firearms are like beautiful women-and all of them are in one way or another. You should be on "first name basis" with as many as you possibly can :drool:
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Get them, man get them!!!!!
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