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My Son and his SECOND buck!

ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
It was crazy windy this morning when my son and I went over to my friend's ranch to visit and hang out. After a little bit, I needed to run some errands in town. But, before we left, my friend said that if the wind died down.........my boy could come out and shoot another deer! Woohoo!

About 2 o'clock, he called and said to come on out when we could. Still running around, we didn't get out there until just before 4 o'clock. So, we hurriedly drove out to the brush, built a quick blind, and threw out some corn.

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The shot would be somewhere between 50 and 115 yards, depending on where they came out. The wind was still whipping, but it was in our faces and figured we'd be ok. After about 20 minutes, a yearling came out and began to feed. So, we watched and practiced on her. Then, a spike (trying to be a 3-Pointer) came out and my friend said he could shoot him. I asked if he was sure and he said that he needed to take out some small bucks this season as well. That's all I needed to hear. So, I got my boy behind the rifle and started coaching him for the shot. Due to where the buck came out, my boy was up on his knees trying to aim in. I saw that he was not steady in that position. I asked if he wanted to sit in my lap and he said, "Yeah. I'm a little excited and can't get still."

I hope that excitement never goes away.

Anyway, he got set up in my lap and I started the video. Unfortunately, the entire video is too long to download. But, in it you hear us go through the coaching sequence. He's in my lap, the camera is rolling, I'm looking through binos over his head at the deer..........he's ready.........I tell him to squeeze the trigger..............and my little man sends a 105gr A-Max out of the .243 Winchester across 87 yards and into the buck's heart.

If you've never experienced such a joy..........to have your boy in your lap while he shoots a deer............I can't express the pride, honor, and exhilaration. It's enough to bring a tear to your eye.

At the shot, the buck leaps in the air and does a 180 in the process. Covering about 6 yards with that single bound, he lands and runs about 6 more yards, just out of view of the camera. Stopping in front of a mesquite tree and behind a bush, my boy can't see him. I'm looking through the binos and burning through the bush at the deer. My boy asks in an excited voice, "What happened? Where did he go?!?"

"He stopped right there behind the bush." I tell him. And a second later, the buck falls over. "He's down!"

"Yes!" Exclaimed my boy.

My friend smiles and punches my boy in the shoulder. "You're a Hell of a shot, young man! I've seen grown men come out here and miss or wound deer no further than yours. You're two for two!"

I was a proud dad.

We gathered our things, walked down to the buck, and thanked God for the gift of friends, and the outdoors.

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My boy is becoming a young man before my eyes.

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"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • SargeSarge Posts: 324 Member
    That kid is on a roll! Awesome job!
    Pain is okay. Puking is okay. Fear is okay. Falling is okay. Crawling is okay. Failure is okay. Quitting is not.
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    Photobucket is being a pain downloading the video. But, here are some still frames of the shot. I was able to capture the bullet traveling through the air again and hitting the buck. I marked the reflection of the bullet with a red line. These are 4 consecutive frames of the video.

    The bullet in flight.

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    Just before impact.

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    Impact.

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    Exit.

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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • SargeSarge Posts: 324 Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Your buddy is enjoying this as much as you guys are. His smile confirms that.

    So now let's start talking about the gun situation. I see this two ways.
    1. You just lost a rifle. And we need to build you another.
    2. The boy needs to have a rifle built.

    I vote for number two. You know I'm right, so hit the local Walmart and pick up a donor.

    I second this.
    Pain is okay. Puking is okay. Fear is okay. Falling is okay. Crawling is okay. Failure is okay. Quitting is not.
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Your buddy is enjoying this as much as you guys are. His smile confirms that.

    So now let's start talking about the gun situation. I see this two ways.
    1. You just lost a rifle. And we need to build you another.
    2. The boy needs to have a rifle built.

    I vote for number two. You know I'm right, so hit the local Walmart and pick up a donor.

    That is the same gun my daughter shot her first antelope with. So, I'm not going to give that one to one or the other.

    He will eventually get my .30-06 from my youth. The one I shot my first Whitetail buck, antelope, muley, and elk with.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • RimfireRimfire Posts: 849 Senior Member
    Zee & Son, Well done. Congrats!
    G&A Forum Member since: October 2000; Life Member: GOA, IWLA, NRA, & Escapees.
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    Finally got the edited (for length) video to work. If you look closely, you can see the bullet.

    http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Hunting/Shot_zpsu5cjllup.mp4


    Here is the quick autopsy. Didn't do a thorough one as I was too busy with "the moment". What I learned from this one is........my boy can shoot pretty well.

    Entrance (little dot just behind the leg and above the white hair):

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    The boy smoked the heart.......again! I told him to stop doing that as they were edible!!! :jester:

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    Exit (broke a rib on exit):

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    The deer jumped about 6 yards. Ran about 6 yards. Stopped for a second or two and fell over. Same shot as his first buck (much larger in size) which ran about 130 yards. Both heart shot. Different distance traveled. You just never know how a deer will react.

    The .243 Winchester and 105gr A-Max continue to perform and impress.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Your buddy is enjoying this as much as you guys are. His smile confirms that.

    Yes. Yes he is.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    I am so proud for you and your boy.
    You have taught him well.
    That joy is indescribable...as it should be.
    Now get him ready for handgun hunting.
    I know he would be capable with your coaching.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Posts: 448 Member
    Zee, you are the man!! With the little man there with ya. That it so great to see. Great job on the hunt, having a fine son, and being a great dad.


    One question though......you said it almost brought a tear to your eye. How can that be; you have no face?
    "People are responsible to play a role in their own safety." Sheriff David Clarke 2016
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,778 Senior Member
    All I can say is FANTASTIC all around.
    Congrats to you and your son
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • earlyearly Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Time well spent Dad.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Posts: 6,992 Senior Member
    Amazing tales about you and your boy. I am really glad to be able to read them and share your experience. I will never have a son, and my daughter has no interest in hunting, so I get to live vicariously through you and I must say it is as good as it gets.

    Congrats on a job well done all the way around.

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    That is really awesome. Congratulations to you all.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,881 Senior Member
    Best of all, when he was sitting in your lap, he didn't get so excited that he wet himself. :jester:

    Kid needs a lightweight stompin' around rifle of his own, or at least a semi-permanent, pre-growth spurt loaner. It appears he can shoot 'em just fine - time to get him going on the finding part. Ruger Hawkeye Compact / Laminate Compact has a 12.5" LOP and only weighs 6 pounds. Hmmmmmm....
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Best of all, when he was sitting in your lap, he didn't get so excited that he wet himself. :jester:

    Kid needs a lightweight stompin' around rifle of his own, or at least a semi-permanent, pre-growth spurt loaner. It appears he can shoot 'em just fine - time to get him going on the finding part. Ruger Hawkeye Compact / Laminate Compact has a 12.5" LOP and only weighs 6 pounds. Hmmmmmm....

    I gave him a NEF Single Shot Rifle in .38 Spl/357 Mag last year for his birthday. It's pretty lightweight. Much more cartridge and I'd worry about recoil.

    The current .243 Win in use has some weight to it with a 20" Varmint barrel and stock. Along with a heavy scope and brake, it doesn't beat him up.

    I attribute his ability to shoot deer precisely in the heart with the fact that I have NOT abused him in noise and recoil. He is therefore more able to concentrate on shot placement without concern for repercussions for pulling the trigger.

    I plan to keep it that way until I think he is ready for or needs more (less) gun.

    I DO, however want to start planning and training him for a Specialty Pistol. But, that is for another thread.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Beautiful shot by the young man. That deer was dead on its feet.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • snake284snake284 Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    It was crazy windy this morning when my son and I went over to my friend's ranch to visit and hang out. After a little bit, I needed to run some errands in town. But, before we left, my friend said that if the wind died down.........my boy could come out and shoot another deer! Woohoo!


    If you've never experienced such a joy..........to have your boy in your lap while he shoots a deer............I can't express the pride, honor, and exhilaration. It's enough to bring a tear to your eye.

    I was a proud dad.

    We gathered our things, walked down to the buck, and thanked God for the gift of friends, and the outdoors.
    My boy is becoming a young man before my eyes.
    _________________________________________
    Yes, my youngest son shot his first deer sitting in my lap. Hell of a feeling. He shot a doe at about 80-90 yards in my lap. He was 9 years old and I let him carry my 6mm Remington Model 700 BDL. But right before he shot he turns to me and asks, "Daddy, can I shoot it with the .270? I said "James, are you sure?" He said, "Yeah, I like shooting it." I had let him shoot it several times at the range. This kid never flinched not once I ever saw. He started shooting my rifles a couple years before I ever took him hunting and he had no fear of any of them. The noise or recoil never seemed to bother him. Sounds like your son is like that too.

    So I took the 6mm from him and handed him the .270. So he crouched down on it and squeezed the shot off and down the deer went. No feeling can match that.

    I know your feeling right now, it's really impossible to describe your joy. I was very impressed with your son shooting the quail with a hand gun and now he's scored twice on deer. I can't help but feel proud for him. Nothing like a story about a kid killing deer or any game, especially those first few. Congrats to father and son.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    Skull cap is boiled and cleaned. Ready for the wall.

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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »

    Yes, my youngest son shot his first deer sitting in my lap. Hell of a feeling. He shot a doe at about 80-90 yards in my lap. He was 9 years old and I let him carry my 6mm Remington Model 700 BDL. But right before he shot he turns to me and asks, "Daddy, can I shoot it with the .270?

    Well, it is a good cartridge for women and children. So, it was a natural choice for him.

    :jester:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    I knew that was coming. Yeah and it works. One thing, what twist rate do you have in that .243? I was wondering how well a 1:10 twist would stabilize a 105 grain? I used them once in my 6mm but it had a 1:9.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Now- - - - -wait about 20 years, and do it all over again with your grandkids- - - - -that's when it really feels good!

    Good shooting, young man!
    :up:
    Jerry
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    One thing, what twist rate do you have in that .243? I was wondering how well a 1:10 twist would stabilize a 105 grain? I used them once in my 6mm but it had a 1:9.

    My barrel has a 1:8" twist rate.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Posts: 8,820 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That's awesome! I love odd racks!

    You're really going to leave a comment like that on THIS forum??!!

    Anyhow, congrats to a fine young shooter, nice spork!
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Dang! Heads already cleaned! Turkey fryer is nice, no?

    Yep.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,461 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    If nothing else, I'm certain your wife is happier to have boiled heads on the back porch, rather than in the kitchen...

    Yes. But, I do it on the front porch so the UPS man can enjoy it. Dogs out back.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • sakodudesakodude Posts: 4,886 Senior Member
    Great moments, what more can be said.:worthy:
    Congrats to your boy on another successful hunt. The way he's going he will have taken more deer by age 12 than most adult hunters.

    Sako
  • Great OutdoorsGreat Outdoors Posts: 326 Member
    You are doing a fine job with your son- congrats to both of you.
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,881 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I gave him a NEF Single Shot Rifle in .38 Spl/357 Mag last year for his birthday. It's pretty lightweight. Much more cartridge and I'd worry about recoil.

    :up::up:

    I just learned a couple days ago that Uberti is now making No.4 Remington Rolling Block and 1885 Browning Low Wall clones in .357 Mag.

    This fact is now boring into my mind like those earwigs from Wrath of Khan. . .
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • snake284snake284 Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Now- - - - -wait about 20 years, and do it all over again with your grandkids- - - - -that's when it really feels good!

    Good shooting, young man!
    :up:
    Jerry


    Yep, I have to agree, though it may be our age that makes it better with the grand kids. We're a bit more settled and have a lot more patience so it's a better experience for us and the kid too.

    The one I described here was my youngest boy. My oldest boy was another story. How many times I took him out deer hunting and couldn't get him to shoot a deer. I put him on several and he only pulled the trigger a couple times and he missed them. I about gave up on him until a teacher said she noticed he looked like he had eye strain. So we took him to the eye doc. Turns out he had an extremely bad a case of near nearsightedness and astigmatism. Hell, no wonder, out past about 30 yards everything was a blur. He never complained but like the doc said, they don't know what good vision is because they're born that way. This is a good reason to take your kids to the eye doc when they're very young.

    That was when he was about 16. After he got corrective lenses he started killing deer. Then after he got out of the Navy he had Lasix surgery and he no longer needs corrective lenses. Turned out all my kids needed the surgery, even the youngest boy that killed the deer when he was 9. But he was the least severe.

    Just something all you dads with younger kids need to think about.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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