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orchidman
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A SXS, an A5, a No4 MK I and a Mauser.

Here are the 4 guns I picked up yesterday.
The first is a 12g Belgian made SXS. The makers name as far as I can tell is Jan Visser.
The barrel choke markings are both 18.3. The barrels look good and although there are shadows in the bore at the breech end I have still to run a cleaning brush down them. Hopefully they will come out. The outside of the barrels has some surface rust and the front sling swivel is caked in rust. The action is engraved and luckily has no rust at all so should clean up well. Dont know the year of manufacture and havent studied the markings closely yet. Will do that when I start cleaning her.The action is tight with no signs of play or slop.
Here are some pics.



The second is a No4 MK I* Long Branch
Again there is rust on both the barrel and the action including the peep sight. Bore looks good although I havent cleaned it yet. Wood is in great condition with very few marks and dings and just needs a clean and some oil. Serial no's have been stamped out and replaced and it is marked 1942 NZ.




The third is a Belgian made Browning A5 Serial no 19XXX
Again there is some rust on the barrel but the action looks clean and rust free. The stock has been altered/ modified at some stage with an interesting cheekpiece added and the stock being lengthened ( see pics)
Near as I can tell according to the serial no it is a very early model, possibly made in the '20's'. The action works with no hangups but is stiff.

Here is a pic of the stock alterations...



The last one is the Mauser in 8X57J. Has some major rust spots on the barrel but the action/bolt etc is relatively clean of rust. Bore looks good. It is topped with a Pecar 4X81 'Light' scope but whoever mounted the scope didnt do a very good job. The scope is quite clear and has a half post with cross hair. Now that I have 'found' the original bolt the no's on the action and bolt match. It also sports the butterknife bolt handle and has double set triggers. The stock has been altered ( see Pics) and extended.( Dont know why there is a different type of wood inserted in the centre of the stock???) The barrel may have been replaced as it is marked H Halverscheid,Hagen . The action is marked Mauserwerke AG Oberndorf AN.
Here are some pics. ( these were taken before I discovered the bolt problem)




Here is a pic of some of the rust on the barrel...

Also picked up a 'cracker tin' of ammunition, some packets of 12g lead/paper shells, 2 1/2 full packets of Norma factory loaded 8X57J 196gr which have little red factory stickers on them saying ' Olympic grade match ammunition', and about 12 loose rounds of 303 made by CAC ( Colonial Ammunition Company). Plus a wooden cleaning box with some old pullthroughs, brushes, jags and cleaning rods etc.
Have sprayed the rust on all of them with a light coating of gun oil and will hopefully get a chance to start cleaning them up properly on the weekend.
Will have to get some fine wire wool etc and download some manuals before I start work. Once they are cleaned I will get some values from a couple of gunshops then work out a price for each.
( Note: When I picked them up yesterday, the owner had some friends visiting, and one of them took me to one side and said that they were glad I was removing the guns as the owner had been depressed lately and had casually thrown into the conversation a few days ago that he 'might as well put a bullet in his head', She asked me to not return them till I had spoken to her. Knowing him as well as I do, I am sure he was just joking .........but you never know)
The first is a 12g Belgian made SXS. The makers name as far as I can tell is Jan Visser.
The barrel choke markings are both 18.3. The barrels look good and although there are shadows in the bore at the breech end I have still to run a cleaning brush down them. Hopefully they will come out. The outside of the barrels has some surface rust and the front sling swivel is caked in rust. The action is engraved and luckily has no rust at all so should clean up well. Dont know the year of manufacture and havent studied the markings closely yet. Will do that when I start cleaning her.The action is tight with no signs of play or slop.
Here are some pics.



The second is a No4 MK I* Long Branch
Again there is rust on both the barrel and the action including the peep sight. Bore looks good although I havent cleaned it yet. Wood is in great condition with very few marks and dings and just needs a clean and some oil. Serial no's have been stamped out and replaced and it is marked 1942 NZ.




The third is a Belgian made Browning A5 Serial no 19XXX
Again there is some rust on the barrel but the action looks clean and rust free. The stock has been altered/ modified at some stage with an interesting cheekpiece added and the stock being lengthened ( see pics)
Near as I can tell according to the serial no it is a very early model, possibly made in the '20's'. The action works with no hangups but is stiff.

Here is a pic of the stock alterations...



The last one is the Mauser in 8X57J. Has some major rust spots on the barrel but the action/bolt etc is relatively clean of rust. Bore looks good. It is topped with a Pecar 4X81 'Light' scope but whoever mounted the scope didnt do a very good job. The scope is quite clear and has a half post with cross hair. Now that I have 'found' the original bolt the no's on the action and bolt match. It also sports the butterknife bolt handle and has double set triggers. The stock has been altered ( see Pics) and extended.( Dont know why there is a different type of wood inserted in the centre of the stock???) The barrel may have been replaced as it is marked H Halverscheid,Hagen . The action is marked Mauserwerke AG Oberndorf AN.
Here are some pics. ( these were taken before I discovered the bolt problem)




Here is a pic of some of the rust on the barrel...

Also picked up a 'cracker tin' of ammunition, some packets of 12g lead/paper shells, 2 1/2 full packets of Norma factory loaded 8X57J 196gr which have little red factory stickers on them saying ' Olympic grade match ammunition', and about 12 loose rounds of 303 made by CAC ( Colonial Ammunition Company). Plus a wooden cleaning box with some old pullthroughs, brushes, jags and cleaning rods etc.
Have sprayed the rust on all of them with a light coating of gun oil and will hopefully get a chance to start cleaning them up properly on the weekend.
Will have to get some fine wire wool etc and download some manuals before I start work. Once they are cleaned I will get some values from a couple of gunshops then work out a price for each.
( Note: When I picked them up yesterday, the owner had some friends visiting, and one of them took me to one side and said that they were glad I was removing the guns as the owner had been depressed lately and had casually thrown into the conversation a few days ago that he 'might as well put a bullet in his head', She asked me to not return them till I had spoken to her. Knowing him as well as I do, I am sure he was just joking .........but you never know)
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
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Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Looking at the stock alterations, it appears that someone had a problem with length of pull and had them lengthened. The bit in the middle of the Mauser buttstock appears to have been installed to replace the bolt takedown ring. Looks like the alterations were well executed even if the wood grain/color are off. Hard to match grain, and coloring to match is a female dog.
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Looks like like a winters worth of busy right there...
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