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Zee
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Subsonic vs. Hi-Vel - A fun test.
Zee
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My friend had a big buck with a wound on the front of his chest from fighting. It had become infected and grown to a Volley Ball size gelatinous growth that causing him to limp badly while the rest of his health deteriorated. He had spoken with a vet on the many options available. Darting to inject medication required a bunch of paperwork and regs and there was no other reliable method to administer meds. So, he asked if puncturing the abscess in some way might help. She said that if he could drain the wound without causing more damage, that there was a chance it would heal.
Break out the guns!!!
We worked up a subsonic load with his .223 Remington using 65gr Soft Point bullets. Not knowing what would happen if he shot the abscess, we needed to properly test the hydrostatic results. Science!!!
We lined up several water jugs at 20 yards to see how many it would penetrate and what the hydrolic properties would be. Turning the first jug on angle, to mimic a grazing shot on the very edge of the abscess, we readied to record.
Here is the video.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Shooting/65gr%20Sub%201_zpsc3efrrs2.mp4
The bullet penetrated through the corner of the first, passed through the second and third, and dented the front of the fourth, falling to rest on the board.
Then, just for laughs, we decided to line up the jugs and compare the results to a 52gr Hollow Point at high velocity and let my boy have at them.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Shooting/52gr%20HP%20HV_zpsoj9moe0x.mp4
The bullet penetrated 2 jugs and the rear of the jacket was recovered.
Quite a dramatic difference between the jugs and the recovered bullets.
Wednesday evening, he got a shot at the buck and said there seemed to be no result. Unsure as to whether he hit the abscess or not, he tried again on Thursday evening. Stating that the result was almost identical to the sub load water jug result. Yellow **** blew out the back of the wound in a large torrent. Not the vaporized spray of the higher velocity bullet. He then ran off leaving a trail of **** on the ground as he went. Following it for a distance, my friend said he found no blood on the ground.
I am waiting to hear how the buck looks now.
Break out the guns!!!
We worked up a subsonic load with his .223 Remington using 65gr Soft Point bullets. Not knowing what would happen if he shot the abscess, we needed to properly test the hydrostatic results. Science!!!
We lined up several water jugs at 20 yards to see how many it would penetrate and what the hydrolic properties would be. Turning the first jug on angle, to mimic a grazing shot on the very edge of the abscess, we readied to record.
Here is the video.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Shooting/65gr%20Sub%201_zpsc3efrrs2.mp4
The bullet penetrated through the corner of the first, passed through the second and third, and dented the front of the fourth, falling to rest on the board.
Then, just for laughs, we decided to line up the jugs and compare the results to a 52gr Hollow Point at high velocity and let my boy have at them.
http://vid26.photobucket.com/albums/c106/lovinmycaitlynn/Shooting/52gr%20HP%20HV_zpsoj9moe0x.mp4
The bullet penetrated 2 jugs and the rear of the jacket was recovered.
Quite a dramatic difference between the jugs and the recovered bullets.
Wednesday evening, he got a shot at the buck and said there seemed to be no result. Unsure as to whether he hit the abscess or not, he tried again on Thursday evening. Stating that the result was almost identical to the sub load water jug result. Yellow **** blew out the back of the wound in a large torrent. Not the vaporized spray of the higher velocity bullet. He then ran off leaving a trail of **** on the ground as he went. Following it for a distance, my friend said he found no blood on the ground.
I am waiting to hear how the buck looks now.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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Just the tip?
You didnt film a basketball sized zit being shot with a 223? :zzzz:
But, here is a pic he sent me of the wound prior to being shot.
Hee! He's a bit small for things like high-velocity, big meplat .45-70's at this point. I think Zee has not yet begun to mess with his mind!:cool2:
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I suspect there would be a serious train-wreck quality to such a video - - you both DO and DON'T want to see such a thing.
Looks like a buck worth keeping alive if you can though. Good on you guys for making the attempt. This may be the first recorded effort of lancing a boil with a bullet.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
This was kind of our thinking as well.
D
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
Better chance of the heavier bullet poking straight through. Being a spitzer instead of a round nose, plus jacketed mean a much better chance of going through clean.
Dad 5-31-13
The answer's pretty well already been covered, but the discussion is illustrating to me how warped my own mind is: A few minutes ago I actually started thinking about ideal cast bullet shape, caliber, alloy type, and speed for the purpose of draining pus from an abscess. . . because, yeah, the need to drain a grapefruit-sized abscess with a bullet comes up SOOOO often. :roll:
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
AKA: Former Founding Member
Not I, but it has been a near run thing.
Dad 5-31-13
I hope the buck makes it.
All kinds of "EEEEEEEWWWWWWW!" in this thread. . .
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I'm not gonna hold my breath that he makes it.
"The Un-Tactical"
Dad 5-31-13
But, from this day forward, the phrase "torrent of pus" will forever occupy space in my internal filling cabinet.
Thanks for that.
George Carlin
:agree: Had a Hereford bull that got bit by a copperhead on the neck and made a huge abscess on the side of his neck. Called vet, got bull in the head gate/squeeze chute and vet lanced it at bottom and top, drained it, and put in a weep tube in bottom hole, and a tube on top hole to irrigate wound with antibiotic. Irrigated the mess with water and then antibiotic. Did I mention that a 2,000 lb. bull with a really painful sore on his neck is a handful in a head catch gate and squeeze chute? The antibiotic burned like fire; got some in a scrape on my hand while dealing with 'wooly bully' in the chute going bonkers. Smell of the stuff that came out of that abscess would have knocked a buzzard off a gut wagon had there been a buzzard and gut wagon available.
Had to irrigate wound with antibiotic daily for 5 days. Getting the bull in the head gate/squeeze chute was fun; he knew what was coming. Vet made a visit after 5 days and pulled tubes and closed holes. Couldn't get that danged bull in the barn lot again for about 6 months. He'd had all the fun he could stand, and I had, too.
― Douglas Adams