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Cull Buck with the .243 Winchester

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 24,944 Senior Member
General season has closed and it's doe/spike season until Sunday. But, on my friends place, his management tags run through the end of February and he decides what they are used on. So, he wanted me to come over this evening and try for an Axis doe/spike or another whitetail.

We checked out a few spots for Axis, but were unable to locate any moving around. In one spot, we saw several yearling whitetail and Axis but, nothing to shoot. While we waited, I saw a Grey Fox come out of the brush about 15 yards in front of us. I whispered "Fox" to my friend and as it walked behind a tree, he raised his Ruger 10/22 rifle. When it came out from behind the tree, my friend squeaked at the fox. It stopped and looked our way.......only to catch a .22 bullet between the eyes for his curiosity.

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With that disturbance, we packed up and headed to our usual hilltop knoll and waited. Eventually, an Axis doe, and 3 yearlings came out there as well. But, none were shootable and we continued to wait.

The sun was setting in our eyes and time trickled by with nothing else appearing. The temp was dropping and the cool breeze was kicking in. A great time to hunt.

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With nothing moving, I crawled to the back side of the knoll to glass the far hillside. I saw a bunch of deer crossing the fence and entering the flats. Among them I saw what appeared to be a huge 6 point heading our way! Moving back over to my friend, I told him about the buck and that I wanted him to see him. To decide if he thought he was a cull or not. We held our position, figuring he would make his way around the knoll from our right. But, time went by and he never came. The Axis doe and yearlings were still out and some other whitetail had appeared. Two of which were a rear big 8 and a real old 10 pointer. Otherwise, just some young does and bucks.

The sun set and we had about 30 minutes left. I figured we were lost on our chance to see the 6 pointer again. Then, he suddenly came running out of the brush from our left! That sucker had circled around BEHIND us and our hill to enter the brush and come out on our left! I told my friend, "That's him!"

We both glasse him and realized he was actually a 7 point with 3 on the right and 4 on the left. Plus a kicker on the left base. Either way, he had a lopsided rack and should have been better for his age of 4 plus years. My friend said, "Take that ugly bastard." Roger that!!

I aimed in and waited for him to turn broadside. He eventually turned and placed both legs forward.............and I sent a 105gr A-Max from my .243 Winchester through his heart at 76 yards.

The impact echoed back at us, the buck hunched up and took off the way he'd come. Plowing through the brush and over the ridge, I heard a crash and figured he'd fallen. We gathered our stuff and headed over to where he had stood. No immediate blood on the ground, but I followed his path and as I entered the brush, I began to see blood on the ground. The blood increased until I topped the ridge and saw him laying on the trail. Dead as could be after a 45 yard run.

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My friend didn't like having him in the herd, but I was one happy camper to have been able to take him. He's my biggest buck in the past couple years and I am MORE than proud of him!!!

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Back at the barn, I quartered and cleaned him. Sparing you the autopsy as you've already seen plenty with the 105gr A-Max. The bullet split his heart in two pieces and thrashed the lungs. Doing considerable damage to the thoracic cavity as usual. I know there are bigger and badder cartridges out there........but........I'm here to tell you that the .243 Winchester is a damn fine deer cartridge and probably one of my favorites. The numbers keep adding up and I may well exceed my .308 Winchester total here soon. This little cartridge just keeps dropping them like flies!!! A damned adequate deer cartridge, I might say.

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Another wonderful evening with a great friend in God's country.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,132 Senior Member
    Nice "cull". And that fox is badass!
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,602 Senior Member
    You have been having too much fun this week:jester:
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    You have been having too much fun this week:jester:

    It's been eventful.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,602 Senior Member
    For sure
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Hondo341Hondo341 Member Posts: 448 Member
    Great job Zee!! Nice write-up as always. That "cull" buck would be a serious trophy where I hunt. I agree that the .243 is a great cartridge.
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    That's a helluva cool buck! Awesome job!
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    Damn,your cull is a prize where I hunt. Cool fox.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    Damn,your cull is a prize where I hunt. Cool fox.
    This. I would be more than happy to have that one. Me thinks your friend is a pretty great friend, but I think you knew that already.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,658 Senior Member
    Nicely done :up:
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I love "weird" racks. That's a great one!

    And not all that weird either. Unbalanced racks are common around here. One of my friends has killed exactly one deer his whole life. That one is a 9 point. But the damn rack is 22 inches wide inside the beams. Looks like it came from down in South Texas around Catula or somewhere in the South Texas Brush Country. But it didn't. He shot that deer not 25 miles from where I sit. You don't even notice it's missing one point. Probably lost it in a fight. It's got something in common with yours too, it's a real high rack. Also, that deer if yours is way legal even in Texas. Those ears will fit easily between those beams with inches to spare. That's no cull where I hunt. Nice deer.
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    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Cull my foot!

    Nice job.

    Thanks.

    If you saw some of the other massive and beautiful bucks he has on his property........you'd agree this buck was sub par. But, that don't mean I ain't dancing a jig at the opportunity to take him!!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I love "weird" racks. That's a great one!

    I do too. Almost preferring them.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    This. I would be more than happy to have that one. Me thinks your friend is a pretty great friend, but I think you knew that already.

    He ain't half bad to hang around.
    :-)
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • HAWKENHAWKEN Senior Member Posts: 1,720 Senior Member
    Nicely done Zee. I agree with your synopsis of the .243. I have taken 36 deer, a limit of squirrels and one unlucky crow, with my Model 700BDL and all but one dropped in their tracks. I load 100 grain Nosler Partitions over max loads of H1000. Keep yer powder dry......robin
    I don't often talk to people that voted for Obama, but when I do I order large fries!
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    That's a great deer.
    That rifle looks capable of much greater reach than was needed.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,867 Senior Member
    That's great deer.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    Skull cap is skinned and ready to boil.

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    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Details.

    Car+rope.
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Banned Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    :jester:I do not know, but I used to watch this trapper on YouTube and he had a skinning machine he used for coons. It worked about like Zee's on a smaller scale. Cooncreak outdoors was the channel. Look up his skinning machine.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Duh.
    How for you attach the rope to the hide?

    You put a rock, or golf ball, or tennis ball under the hide and tie the rope real tightly on the skin over the object. It won't slip off if you tie it tight.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,365 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    You put a rock, or golf ball, or tennis ball under the hide and tie the rope real tightly on the skin over the object. It won't slip off if you tie it tight.

    That's pretty much how you do it.

    Works really well.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    You put a rock, or golf ball, or tennis ball under the hide and tie the rope real tightly on the skin over the object. It won't slip off if you tie it tight.

    This. Except we used a chain.

    You ou have to slit the hide from stem to stern and down the legs, around the knees so it just peels off free.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,269 Senior Member
    Maybe this has been mentioned before and I missed it. Does your friend manage the deer herd for family hunting or does he lease?
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    Maybe this has been mentioned before and I missed it. Does your friend manage the deer herd for family hunting or does he lease?

    He sells trophy Whitetail and Axis hunts.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    He is a retired warden who ranches cattle, has oil leases, and manages the Axis and Whitetail as a fun hobby for himself on his place.

    He never did the import genes thing. Just good feed and good management on native deer. And he's got some monsters!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,093 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »




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    Is that a well below him?

    Nothing wrong with that buck:up:

    :bang:Picture before this one that has the deer piled up where you found him.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,269 Senior Member
    The way property taxes are now, I imagine it is near impossible to really retire and keep any big acreage.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,944 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    The way property taxes are now, I imagine it is near impossible to really retire and keep any big acreage.

    He considers himself, "semi-retired".
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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