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Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior MemberPosts: 7,910 Senior Member
Well, I went and did it....I finally broke down and got a smart phone (Samsung J3 Emerge @ only $115/month for 2 phones). Been using dumb phones since 1994 and was always happy with it until all my friends and acquaintances got smart phones.....then I felt left out, especially since I loved the features that these phones had: send email, browse internet, do facebook, get maps and GPS, send and receive text and especially getting satellite weather forecasts.

Now all I have to do is learn how to use the damn thing, and I'll be all set.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,125 Senior Member
    One of the first things to do is find out how to connect to the available WIFI or it could get expensive.

    I still have a flip phone and let Clean fart around with the smart phone.

  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Don't feel bad, the only reason I went to a smart (kinda clever) phone was that the mil spec flip phone I liked wasn't available any more.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I refuse to type with my thumbs. I refuse to squint into a screen smaller than my first computer, in 1978. Not.......gonna......do..........it. :tooth:
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  • RocketmanRocketman Banned Posts: 1,118 Senior Member
    Your gonna poop longer now.
  • roadkingroadking Senior Member Posts: 3,056 Senior Member
    I miss my Nextel with 2 way radio... :tissue::tissue:
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    I have one simply because all of my family have the damn things and one was forced on me. I refuse, however, to use any feature on it other than making and receiving calls. Period. That's it. Period. Don't text me. Don't leave a call-back request. I refuse to be "programmed" and, by the way, tracked through my every move!
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,125 Senior Member
    I have one simply because all of my family have the damn things and one was forced on me. I refuse, however, to use any feature on it other than making and receiving calls. Period. That's it. Period. Don't text me. Don't leave a call-back request. I refuse to be "programmed" and, by the way, tracked through my every move!
    :agree:
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    I have one simply because all of my family have the damn things and one was forced on me. I refuse, however, to use any feature on it other than making and receiving calls. Period. That's it. Period. Don't text me. Don't leave a call-back request. I refuse to be "programmed" and, by the way, tracked through my every move!

    If it's on, they can find you and sometimes even if it's not.
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  • JRLJRL Member Posts: 355 Member
    My goal is to go back to the 20th century (a little bit)

    -Go off the grid (ok maybe a plain jane land line so grandkids can call... And my wife can have a tablet to show me pictures)

    - Use road maps instead of google maps

    - talk to people instead of head in the phone
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    The phones are nice, but I'm not sure a flying car wouldn't have been better.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    These small screens have a resolution and clarity which is about a bazillion times better than your first computer. These smart devices are a gadzillion times smarter than the same computer. You don't have to type with your thumbs, you can speak to it and it will type for you. Typing with your thumbs is so 2010 buddy... :tooth:

    Riiiiiiiiiiiight! I doubt if that danged phone understands East TN redneck. By the time I got mad at it and really shucked the corn down to the cob talking to it, it would jump out of my hand and crawl into a corner sucking what passes for a thumb on it. :rotflmao:

    And don't care if it has a bazillion megapixel screen, it's still a SMALL tiny little screen. I don't see myself carrying around a Fresnel lens mounted on a holder around my neck to read what's on that tiny screen. I've seen enough of them to KNOW in no uncertain terms that those little bitty screens are a no go, for me.
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,496 Senior Member
    I was anti technology for a long time! I had an old flip phone I rarely used but I waited until the smart phones came out before I upgraded. I find it useful as a gps for driving, not only for directions but time to destination is helpful!
    I also use it as may golf gps, it replaces many other electronic gadgets with just one!! It's great for keing up with the forum when I'm out of town, like now. I it's my camera that uploads my photos to my computer magically!! And I don't have to type, just speak to it in clear yankee and it fat fingers the text for me! If you you can't figure it a function just ask any twelve year old for help!!
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,986 Senior Member
    I get my phones through work; used a flip one with basic internet and camera and always mocked my friends with their iPhones, iPads, iPods, iRacks, etc. etc.....until my wife got an iPad in 2012 during our 1st. trip to the U.S. since '95 and found how useful it was for driving around Miami with the maps app, taking pics, checking mails, buying on line, etc., so begun considering the possibility of getting one of those "smart" portable gizmos instead of using the desktop & laptop for everything.

    Had to wait a couple of years until they became available in our work phone plan without charge (Before that you'd have to pay an extra $ 100 per smart phone) and it couldn't come in better moment, since a couple of months later my girls were born and I was able to literally monitor the surgery live to the in-laws in Chile and the family outside the room via WhatsApp. Still have that same Android although I have a brand-new latest generation replacement in the box!
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I just don't understand how folks can dismiss these capabilities as inconsequential and useless.


    We all get that you work in the industry and the more people that get hooked on their gee whiz phone worldwide, the more money you and your employer make but we all have different needs and many of us don't need all the capabilities of most modern phones. I know people like you who are constantly showing me the latest app or feature that they discovered on their phone that's greater than sliced bread and I know quite a few people that use it strictly as a phone and won't even set up their voice mail. I use mine as a phone primarily but checking the weather with it or finding directions or phone numbers is kinda handy. We have four gigs of data usage available and we average .1 gig of usage a month.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »

    I just don't understand how folks can dismiss these capabilities as inconsequential and useless.
    Because a lot of them aren't? Some folks just don't need the features, so for them they are... inconsequential and worthless. Your error is taking their saying they don't like those features, and assuming that they're saying if they don't need it, others don't either. From what I've read here, most folks just say they themselves don't need or want the tech.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,041 Senior Member
    roadking wrote: »
    I miss my Nextel with 2 way radio... :tissue::tissue:

    Well, NOW, you talk to your phone, and it does voice to text and garbles about every third word. It then sends that garbled text to your friend.

    Your friend now has the text spoken to him by the phone, and it mispronounces every fourth word.

    Your friend now does voice to text BACK to you saying "What? What the he'll does what do mean?"

    You have your phone speak HIS text to you where it mispronounces every word that the voice to text actually transcribed correctly.

    You finally give up, pull over and call him, and it goes straight to voicemail. Your friend has the option set to send voicemail as a text, and the background noise makes your voicemail come across even more garbled then before saying "Hell by purple ten micros"

    By the time it's straightened out, the fact you were trying to say "I'll be there in ten minutes", the ten minutes are up, and you are there.

    See? Progress!
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,496 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    My phone has replaced a computer for my uses. I just took a picture of a rusted out valve I just changed to show the arrogant prick who is 1000 miles from me that said "it was fine", that it indeed wasn't fine. Using technology to be an ass in a professional manner? Priceless.

    It has its perks!!��
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    K. Here's the deal. I have a GPS. I update software/maps once per year. Still doesn't show Teach's road(guess Google Map's car hasn't gone up it yet? :tooth). I have a 10+ megapixel camera and a 14.4 megapixel camera. They plug into and download into the computer just fine. My flip phone also has a camera on it, attaches to the computer, or can send photos by my wifi to the computer. Got that covered.

    As to speaking into it for that voice to text, here's what I found out on my nephew's and his friends smarty pants phones. There are a HUGE amount of words that confound that voice to text thing. The phones didn't know whether to defecate or go wind their watches. Their suggested words were either hilarious, or they just got lockjaw and gave up. And I did not attempt to accentuate my accent; just talked as I normally do.

    I can just imagine giving one of those smarty pants phones all 'dolled up' for American English to a Scotsman or Scotswoman or Irishman or Irishwoman and asking them to do the speech to text thing. Poor danged phone would need to see a psychiatrist or analyst for years! That should give you an 'idee' what those phones face with me! :rotflmao:
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Siri told me I wasn't being nice when I told him to Shut The Fudge Up :uhm: :tooth:
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,981 Senior Member
    Because a lot of them aren't? Some folks just don't need the features, so for them they are... inconsequential and worthless. Your error is taking their saying they don't like those features, and assuming that they're saying if they don't need it, others don't either. From what I've read here, most folks just say they themselves don't need or want the tech.

    And most importantly, we don't want to PAY out the nose for it. Smartfones are too big to be a fone, too small to be a computer, expen$ive to buy, expen$ive to feed, and don't do all that much that I use a computer for. As for navigation, a stand alone GPS is far cheaper, more accurate, and nobody can trace you either.

    The pseudo-reason that "everybody else has one" so you are "forced" to have one is steer stool.

    I'm still irritated that they turned off the analog service, rendering my bag fone a brick. Never had to worry about batteries, it had a nice handset and nice big buttons! Granted, the flip fones I've had since have cameras that are handy, but I could live without that - but its free! Unfortunately, the longest service I've gotten thus far out of a flip has been only 7 years, I had my bag fone for 18!
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    My phone has replaced a computer for my uses. I just took a picture of a rusted out valve I just changed to show the arrogant prick who is 1000 miles from me that said "it was fine", that it indeed wasn't fine. Using technology to be an ass in a professional manner? Priceless.

    Same here. Handy at home, but necessary for work.
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    It was when he checked 15 years ago!
    I'm just here for snark.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Here's the deal. I have a flip phone but can do text messaging, 'surf the net', take pictures, and, Holey Crap!, made actual voice phone calls on it!

    I don't do text. If I need to contact someone, I call them. Takes less time to call than to text. If someone texts me, I call back. If they're busy I leave a message. I......don't......text message..............period. If I want to 'surf the net' it will be on a computer with at least an 18" color screen, not a 3"x5" or 4"x6" little bitty screen that I have to continuously scroll to see what I want to look at at the time. That's just silly.

    GPS: I updated my stand-alone GPS unit a couple of weeks ago. Fully charged it will run for around 6 hours before needing a recharge, and plugs into the cigarette lighter in the truck. It 'might not' be as accurate as a smarty pants phone running GPS but it gets me within spitting distance of where I'm going, tells me speed and estimated travel time, and the speed limit for where I'm at at that time. AND THE FREAKIN' SCREEN IS BIGGER THAN YOUR SMARTY PANTS PHONE! And I have that annoying 'beech in a box' annoying me with directions/turns info. :tooth:
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    but, but, but... the modern technology is better.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,981 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Ummm, no, your average stand alone GPS is not more accurate. And as far as tracing, it's cute you think your flip phone can't be traced.

    And I can turn it off...

    Do smart fones (models with a GPS chip) do WAAS? If they do, then I stand corrected.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,981 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    It's outright adorable that he thinks standalone GPS can't be traced. Ok, now I'm out... :tooth:

    Only with extraordinarily sensitive equipment that can detect - AND discern differences in - the local oscillator. Won't work at cell tower ranges. Otherwide, its just part of the noise floor.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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    )O(
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    The market for technology is so huge and hungry that I don't have to convince anyone here to do anything. Our demographics POUND on our door to give them more every hour of every day. My income is quite secure, thanks.

    I am WELL AWARE that these technologies are not useful to everyone, that makes them no less significant because they are useful to millions. A few short years ago it took a $1 million Video Conferencing room (basically a corporate TV studio) to accomplish what I can do BETTER today from my couch and it allows me to see my daughter's beautiful face when she is a half a world away in hostile territory.

    Some folks in here have no problems stating in no uncertain terms that these capabilities that they disdain are useless to not just them but everyone and uttering derogatory insults about the folks that espouse them. Some have even accused me of "peddling" them which is fascinating to me.

    My only intent was to keep folks here informed, to what purpose eludes me now, of what the tech world is accomplishing. Every once in a while I try to give examples of why these technologies are meaningful, and share legitimate uses that most people find affect their lives in a positive manner. Apparently this is unwelcome and only serves as a magnet for negativity. So I'll just apologize and desist from doing so in the future.
    Look, we get it, you're a technology evangelist. (Seriously, that's a modern job title and job.) But with your job and corporate background you should know there's 5 groups of folks with regards to any change in technology, government, organization, whatever...

    1. The Early Adopters/Converts.
    2. The Somewhat Skeptical Adopters.
    3. The Unenthusiastic Middle.
    4. The Somewhat Willing Skeptics.
    5. The Kicking and Screaming Resistors. AKA Luddites.

    Categories 1 and 5 are rather loud and vocal. They also have a very hard time understanding why anyone doesn't see their way, and will be disdainful of those who don't share their views. Both think they're grounded in reality.
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,423 Senior Member
    Two apps I like to have on ALL my Androids. So useful even my wife is on board with them.

    Android Army knife -electronic multi-tool. Compass, bubble level, magnifying glass, conversion calculator (best I have seen in a long time), calculator, timers, mirror, flashlight and ruler. Free and awesome.

    Out of Milk
    - Great for to do lists and especially for recurring shopping. The beauty is you can sync it between multiple devices AND you don't forget the list on the kitchen table. Took a while for the wife to get with the program on this, but she loves it now. You check and uncheck things as you go, and you can even scan barcodes for things that might be specific.
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,871 Senior Member
    Another advantage to the phone GPS is that it gives me a position within seconds. Handheld and boat units? Can take a while, depending on how close they were to the last time they were turned off, sky cover, and other things It can take a few minutes for a "designed" GPS to find where you are. While not important, usually, it can be annoying.
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  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,907 Senior Member
    I was able to order a PSA AR kit from my Android at work today. That alone is good enough for me.
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