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knitepoetknitepoet Senior MemberPosts: 22,621 Senior Member
You've ever taken a deer with?

Vamintmist's post in Zee's thread got me to thinking
You should see the whining on some of the boards because a "223 is to small for deer" along with folks saying a 243 is marginal. It is a butt ton load of anecdotal he said evidence.
Instead of hijacking his thread, I decided to start a separate one.

For me, it's a 223/5.56.
This little spike
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was adequately impressed by the performance of of this Nosler 64gr Bonded bullet from ~150 yards away
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it was a severe quartering towards me angle and I got ~ 30" of penetration.

I used it because of the argument of the 223 being too small for deer. Figured trying it myself would give me factual data on its effectiveness.

Will I use it again? Undecided, but I know it WILL work if I decide to use it again.

So, what's the smallest/lightest cartridge you've taken a deer with?
Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    44mag is the smallest and only metallic cartridge I've ever used. The rest were black powder muzzle loader.

    275 Rigby/7x57 is too small for elephants, but I doubt anyone ever told Walter Bell that.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,621 Senior Member
    :up:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,509 Senior Member
    .223 Remington and 50gr Ballistic Silvertip bullets.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,212 Senior Member
    9x23 Winchester.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • KMT2KMT2 Member Posts: 373 Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    9x23 Winchester.

    that was a fun tell of the hunt. Jeremy was diligent in the getting of that deer.
    If you think OHSA is a little town in Wisconsin you may be in trouble!
    Peace is firing my guns or 60 feet below the surface of the water.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,299 Senior Member
    222............up until I got a 204 a couple of years back. The 204 ruger has now taken about 9 deer including a Fallow Buck at over 200m with a shoulder/body shot.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,735 Senior Member
    .223 with a 55 grain V Max...head shot
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,509 Senior Member
    This year, I used a 13" pistol in .223 Remington and 80gr A-Max bullets to take a doe at 140 yards.

    Used a 6" Revolver in .357 Mag with 158gr XTP to take a doe as well.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    I posted this in Zee's thread as well:

    For the, the .243 is as small as I've gone for deer, purely due to opportunity. I have had a .223 in the woods with the intention of taking a deer with it a few times, the opportunity just never came during those times.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,509 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    ...

    Blah, blah, blah........
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,509 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    ...

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    Listen to you.............yeah.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    .32cal flintlock using a 40gr-45gr patched round ball over 30gr of 3f. Probably about the same as a .22mag. In my work I've busted wounded/cull Whitetails and feral hogs 80-120lb class without major problems. Shot placement is the key! I like a double lung shot....if it can't breath, it ain't going far!
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,702 Senior Member
    One Delta Sierra eliminates all the Bravo Zulus you have ever gotten.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,702 Senior Member
    Honestly, 30. I have shot deer with a bunch of different stuff, but a lot of 30 and then up. I have reloaded for stuff that has taken deer down to 6mm, and If I can get out next year and put one in front of me, the intent is 45 out of the trapdoor. I have had a back burner desire to take one with the old 222R, however this new semi auto huntin thing is going to put the NM rifle in my hands in at least one Ghog field. I might be tempted to do deer IF I blood the 45-70.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,784 Senior Member
    Depends on what you mean by "smallest". But the two I would consider the least powerful are a .45 Colt with a 200gr GDHP at about 950 fps or a 7.62x39 150gr soft point. Smallest diameter is a 243.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,621 Senior Member
    smallest case, smallest diameter, lightest projectile....
    or the combination for whatever metric you wish to use
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,372 Senior Member
    30-06 but I suppose that's not the point of this conversation:jester:

    Sako
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,621 Senior Member
    sakodude wrote: »
    30-06 but I suppose that's not the point of this conversation:jester:

    Sako
    If it's the smallest you've used, it's the smallest you've used :beer:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,023 Senior Member
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,212 Senior Member
    Using the smallest in actual bullet diameter, it would be .264 Win Mag. for me.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Smallest bullet would be .243 for me.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    .223 with 62gr Fusion bullet has taken two for me. One head shot and one pass through the lungs.

    Also one with a .357 Mag using 158gr Sierra JSP, complete pass through the chest.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,921 Senior Member
    30-06 as well. Outside of a 270 3 or 4 times, and a .50 cal inline, every gun I've actually taken in the field has been a 30 cal of some flavor.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    .243 Winchester. It was my first buck.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    For me it was a 25.06 for diameter. .41 magnum for shortest.
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,524 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Power wise, I suppose a 30-30 out of a contender.
    I have taken both a pig and a cow with a .380 to the head.

    You shot a cow?
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    You shot a cow?

    That was before his uncle started spray painting the words "cow" and "pig" on the side of his livestock during hunting season.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,576 Senior Member
    A pair of Channel -Locks, but I'll never tell that story here.

    It was legal deer season, though.

    I've taken enough heat about a prairie dog and a bucket.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,621 Senior Member
    Linefinder wrote: »
    A pair of Channel -Locks, but I'll never tell that story here.

    It was legal deer season, though.

    I've taken enough heat about a prairie dog and a bucket.

    Mike

    Well, if tools count, I used mt Benchmade 710
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,524 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yes.







    It would be more fun to just make you wonder...but a buddy had a cow down. We had the bright idea to butcher it. So in order to butcher a cow, it's gotta be dead. So, figured I'd do a test of the .380. It worked like a charm. One shot to the head and it was lights out.

    I had visions of someone on a night stalk (aka Cow Tipping) with a Ruger LCP. ��
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