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Michakav
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5 round AR-15 magazines
Michakav
Posts: 2,907 Senior Member
With PA passing the semi-auto hunting bill, I was wondering if anyone that uses an AR for hunting has any opinions on 5 round magazines. Which ones work best for the price point...etc
I ordered 2 C-Products to try out. But just in case I would like some working knowledge.
Thanks guys.
I ordered 2 C-Products to try out. But just in case I would like some working knowledge.
Thanks guys.
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I wanted to try those Wambli, and probably will. I had 2 cheap buddies going in with me to save a few bucks on shipping. They would have bought the absolute cheapest available. I at least talked them into the C-Products. Which is funny because the cost per magazine with the magpul and limiter would have been about $1 per mag. more.
― Douglas Adams
Dad 5-31-13
Yes, it lifts the ban on semi-auto rifles for hunting.
Both in my state.
I am just not fast enough on the trigger to get all five rounds into one deer so I don't carry the extra weight. :jester:
Dad 5-31-13
Dove are also limited to three rounds.
Dad 5-31-13
Deer around here are magnificent in size but you never see more than 3 maybe 4 together at a time, and that's mostly a mama with her youngins. So its hard for me to see the justification. Not like you're gonna mow down 30 at once.
I am holding off on the mags for now, in case in Mar they do a caliber restriction. Either way, it is still the NM for groundhogs this spring. I need to work up a load in about a 65gr Nos varmageddon I am thinking.
Except until now hunting with a center fire semi automatic rifle was a hanging offense in PA. So the state has opened up hunting and made it accessible to everyone now. Besides it isn't just ARs limited to 5 rounds it is ALL semi autos.
Edit for brain fart.
Dad 5-31-13
Texas has no mag restrictions except for migratory birds. I use the short mags because I like them.
I have been wacking deer with center fire rifles for my entire life in PA. Most of the state has been using rifles except for 2 special regs areas where it is shotgun only. Just semi auto rifles and semi handguns have been prohibited. Semi auto shotguns have been legal for ever. This is where american rifles were born, just no pew pew pew. A mag cap gives me no heart ache. I rarely take more than 3 with me on a given day anyhow. My plan is still the trapdoor once I get the new sight filed down, but the M1 might come out with the 2 round mag. I can ride on over the top and have 2 spare if I see a deer. However, I might take the AR simply because I can.
What takes the time when it comes to this stuff is that the legicritters have to pass a bill to make it legal, then the game commission gets to make the call as the regulating body. It is archaic, but if it wasnt slow and folks didnt get time to look at the idea, we would have lost flintlock season years ago by pressure from the inline manufactures and feminized men. That happens in PA, kiss the flintlock industry good bye nationwide. The last attempt to get inlines into flintlock season was from a legicritter from near Philthy who wanted to let them in for handicapped people. I wrote him and asked how was pulling a trigger different with a scope than with open sights. We also dont have Sunday hunting, mainly because the trespass laws and attitudes about trespass in PA are BS passed down from generation to generation, and the only people who will enforce is the police. 99.9% of the time, they have zero idea what the law is when it comes to trespass, IF you can get them to show up on a trespass call.
Brain fart. I meant to say center fire semi automatic rifle. I fixed it. I have no beef with a mag limit for hunting, I generally only take whatever a magazine holds with me to the stand.
Dad 5-31-13
I think the point Chris was making is that ALL states have a magazine limit. The one for migratory birds. That may be the only one but it is still a magazine limit.
Dad 5-31-13
Mag restrictions on a semi auto are stupid. BUT- IIRC PA used to not allow semi auto at all for hunting, so this is a step forward
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Didnt go over big.
Then we should Be glad to have 29 quickly accessible follow up shots.
Seriously, it's a dumb argument. mag capacity means nothing in the field unless you might run across Steve The Meth Cooker while in the woods. Or a big field of pigs..... or zombies. Whatever. It's a dumb thing to be concerned with
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
There is also some effort to get the Sunday no-hunting law abolished.
South Carolina doesn't for big or small game- only migratory birds
It might be nit-picking but the 3-round migratory bird restriction isn't a state law...it's a federal thing. Kansas has no capacity restrictions for centerfire rifles. Pretty handy, as I have often filled multiple deer tags at one sitting.... MI on the other hand has a mag capacity limit on SA rifles used for hunting.
If any interest, I got them from here....http://www.shop.northriverllc.com/05-Round-CPD-223-556-Stainless-Steel-Magazine-C05223SBO.htm
Shipping was $7 for 6.
Edited. The spring is chrome-silicon in the 5 rounders.
Me too. Never had a C-Product fail yet. Not that I have ever really abused them, but still.
I am glad you posted this thread. I was pretty pumped to see that PA finally stepped out of Biblical times and started allowing semi-auto rifles for big game hunting, and also wanted some advice on 5-round options.
I'm gonna stand pat for a few more weeks, too, just to be sure. For the record, I had no clue just how many Fudds PA has in its population until reading around when the semi-auto bill was up for passage. The level of ignorance is horrifying. It's cute that so many of the Fudds think that despite the fact that 48 states allowed semi-autos for hunting without issues before the bill passed that somehow, PA is special and will have magical problems unique *only* to PA.
As a group, PA riflemen are pretty good, but it is a big group that leaves a lot of bodies in that 10% with some weird ideas.
Here is the deal. PA is mostly rural and heavy in AG. We also put about 900,000 people in the woods during deer season, down from over 1M. With unenforced trespass laws and antiquated fines, farmers and landowners have to deal with people wandering all over their property 6 days a week with little enforcement. The game Commission (bunny cops) refuse to issue trespass violations UNLESS there is a game law violation. So if you shoot a doe without a doe lic, AND are trespassing you will get busted for poaching and trespassing. If a properly licensed hunter trespasses on your property, takes a deer, the PGC will do squat. If they run their 4 wheeler on your property to get the deer, they will do squat. If they cut your fence to run their 4 wheeler on your property to get their deer, they will do squat. Trying to get a cop on a trespass call? Might as well buy a raffle ticket. Odds are slim. If you do get a cop to show up, they may not cite the perp because they dont know what the law is in most cases. There have been stories told through generations about when you can be on anothers land that for some reason are never checked against law by folk who want to use other peoples stuff. Great example is signage. The law says (for defiant trespass, more then simple trespass) that signs must be visible to a reasonable person. The fairy tales state that they must be signed (nope) must be X feet apart (nope) of a certain color or height, pick a excuse. A gas line is open land to some of these folks because its a ROW. If their great grandpa owned the property at one time they think they have rights. If they hunted it in the past they think they have rights even if they were trespassing on it the whole time. Hunting isnt even the biggest trespass issue. Those stupid Mobile Trespass Units known as 4 wheelers have fired more landowners up in the last 25 years than anything else. FYI, I am a landowner and have heard most of these excuses in first person.
Currently Sunday, hunting is not allowed for most game, you can still hunt crow and preds, guess what? It is a game law violation for big game. Guess what happens to folks hunting on Sun? The PGC steps in and they lose lic. and/or get fined in a big way. So take a wild guess what isnt a problem for farmers and landowners on Sunday?
So, when some folks wanted to lift the blue law know as Sunday hunting farmers in the Pa Farm Bureau took the stand that it aint gonna happen. The PFB works with the PGC on stuff like deer damage permits and opening land to hunters but the trespass is going to be addressed before Sun hunting happens.
Its funny how the Sun Hunting proponents are against stiffer fines and clear trespass laws. They also refuse to start with varmints and expanded preds, and birds. I have been watching the argument for years. Makes you wonder why.