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Being found "in contempt of cop" after defensive shooting

bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,419 Senior Member
http://abc7.com/news/fiance-arrested-after-shooting-at-womans-attempted-abductors/1829685/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

This reads like a dirtbag was the shouter, and was uncooperative post shooting.. And was arrested for it. The reasoning the cops gave for arresting the shooter would be grounds for arresting almost every officer in the NYPD that has fired a gun lately
To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov

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  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Guess if he had stopped one or both attackers they'd be charging him with murder.

    I don't know about the gang affliction or such but on the surface the guy did what I (and I think most here) would have done. If he were a gang member I almost would even give him a break on defending his fiancée at his home ... he wasn't out doing a drive-by.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • TeachTeach Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    I wonder what kind of prior history the shooter has with the local gendarmes? Sometimes a person with a sketchy past, dealing with a cop with a long memory, can have a couple of strikes against him from the git-go. One of my former students has that problem- - - - - -the guy with the world's ugliest Mauser rifle! Some of you have met him.
    Jerry
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    If he is a gang member, throw away the key.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    If he is a gang member, throw away the key.

    For what?
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • earlyearly Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    This is one of those deals where we can't get all the pertinent information to figure out what in the bazes is going on.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • tubabucknuttubabucknut Posts: 3,520 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    If he is a gang member, throw away the key.

    And if he's not?
  • john9001john9001 Posts: 668 Senior Member
    I think they prefer to be called "club members".
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    john9001 wrote: »
    I think they prefer to be called "club members".

    Is being a member of a club a crime? What if you don't call it a club? What if you call it an organization?
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    For what?

    For any reason you care to give me.
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    And if he's not?


    If he's not, then don't throw away the key.
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    Is being a member of a club a crime? What if you don't call it a club? What if you call it an organization?

    A rose by any other name ... if it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like a duck ...
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    For any reason you care to give me.


    Well, I understand you want to put him away for any reason, but that isn't exactly how blind justice is supposed to work.

    IF the dude fired indiscriminately about the neighborhood, there could be charges, I suppose... but that doesn't exactly stroke me as a 'throw away the key' offense.

    I won't defend the man's past actions, because I have no idea what they were. They have no bearing in this investigation, save for possibly trying to determine the motive of the would be kidnappers.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • Dr. dbDr. db Posts: 1,541 Senior Member
    Was it a set up? Was the shooter smart enough to attempt to use stand your ground and castle doctrine to eliminate rivals? I know a master criminal is rare but still. Not enough info. Like the Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman thing, it could be an injudicious and censurable, but not illegal, act or it could be a stone cold hit.
  • horselipshorselips Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    Well, I understand you want to put him away for any reason, but that isn't exactly how blind justice is supposed to work.

    If you want to blindfold me when I throw away the key, I'm fine with that.
  • john9001john9001 Posts: 668 Senior Member
    Define "contempt of cop".
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    john9001 wrote: »
    Define "contempt of cop".

    "Contempt of cop" is law enforcement jargon in the United States for behavior by people towards law enforcement officers that the officers perceive as disrespectful or insufficiently deferential to their authority. It is a play on the phrase contempt of court, and not an actual offense.

    Generally speaking, when you exercise your rights during police encounters, the cops get pissy when you fail to acquiesce to their every demand.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    A rose by any other name ... if it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like a duck ...

    You must've watched 12 Angry Men (1997) recently. Your trolling is exactly George C Scott's character.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • breamfisherbreamfisher Posts: 14,103 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    You must've watched 12 Angry Men (1997) recently. Your trolling is exactly George C Scott's character.
    While the trolling method changes, the trolling is constant.
    Meh.
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