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TugarTugar Senior MemberPosts: 2,423 Senior Member
We some left over and trying not to overspend. With a budget of roughly 15K, here are my thoughts so far.

-Prefer something we can slide in and out of. No climbing into trucks, or dropping into sedans we hope. Knees being what they are.
-Wife wants a minivan....but exploring options like a small(er) suv.

Does anyone have a Kia Soul and if so, how do you like it?
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    When I wanted a car, I picked up an old 04' Camry. Got 4 doors, full size spare, made in America, 4 cyl engine good on gas, AC, 4 wheel disc brakes. Ain't fancy, but it works.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,502 Senior Member
    My wife loves her Ford Escape!
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,327 Senior Member
    Frankly, unless you plan to run on dirt, minivans ROCK. As my father says "Toyota minvan: single most versatile vehicle on planet earth".

    We drove the '94 Previa to destruction - failed head gasket somewhere north of 200,000 miles. His daily driver is now a 2006 (?) Sienna and mine a 2011. The four-banger in the old Previa was a little timid, and only had enough oomph to get the A/C properly spooled up when cruising at highway speed. The V6's in the Siennas have plenty of go and will freeze you out on the A/C.

    I pretty much drive mine 24/7 as an enclosed pickup truck - center seats removed, rear seats folded down. It doesn't have the sheer weight capacity (or the squirrely back end when unloaded), but you can haul 4x8 plywood in one, UNLIKE the mini-pickups that get WORSE mileage. Gets mid-20's for MPG on the highway cruises. Usually high teens city. Considering the amount of crap it can carry, that's WAY better than you'll do with a truck of comparable capacity. . .and like you say, it's a lot easier to get in and out of.

    Wife drives a 2009 Toyota/Scion XB. GREAT car and for the money, LOADED. Runs on a perky 2.4L that might keep it from getting as good mileage as it could, but it doesn't feel like it's powered by hamsters. Pretty impressive capacity unless you're used to a minivan. I think she's at 170,000 miles on that one and still going strong.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ilove22silove22s Senior Member Posts: 1,507 Senior Member
    i think youre putting the cart before the horse.

    if you all have mobility issues i would be hitting the car lots in your area and see what
    -Prefer something we can slide in and out of. No climbing into trucks, or dropping into sedans we hope. Knees being what they are.
    -Wife wants a minivan....but exploring options like a small(er) suv.

    works

    good luck
    The ears never lie.

    - Don Burt
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,423 Senior Member
    ilove22s wrote: »
    i think youre putting the cart before the horse.

    if you all have mobility issues i would be hitting the car lots in your area and see what

    works

    good luck


    I've owned a Grand Caravan. You walk up and slide in. Cars you have to lower yourself into.
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    We're in the same boat right now with looking for a newer vehicle for Debbie. She has 15 years and 270,000 miles on her Honda Civic and when she retires next year, she wants a newer vehicle. Our price range is also in the 15,000 neighborhood. Originally she wanted a Mini and I talked her out of that, then it was a Ford Escape which we both liked but now it's shifted to a Subaru Crosstrek. They have good ratings, get good gas milage, and they're all wheel drive. After driving a couple, it reinforced our decision but they're just slightly higher than out price ceiling and there aren't too many used ones available around here. By next year we hope to find a used one in the 15,000 range but we've pretty well locked in on the Subaru.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    My Mom has a Chevy Equinox that she loves. I have driven it a couple of times, fairly comfortable drivers seat and easy to get in and out of.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    We're in the same boat right now with looking for a newer vehicle for Debbie. She has 15 years and 270,000 miles on her Honda Civic and when she retires next year, she wants a newer vehicle. Our price range is also in the 15,000 neighborhood. Originally she wanted a Mini and I talked her out of that, then it was a Ford Escape which we both liked but now it's shifted to a Subaru Crosstrek. They have good ratings, get good gas milage, and they're all wheel drive. After driving a couple, it reinforced our decision but they're just slightly higher than out price ceiling and there aren't too many used ones available around here. By next year we hope to find a used one in the 15,000 range but we've pretty well locked in on the Subaru.

    Snazzy little buggers (Crosstrek).

    I like my Outback.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I thought she was straight? I mean she's dating you. Unless of course, you're just a real ugly bearded woman.


    I'm a lesbian nymphomaniac trapped in a mans body.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,907 Senior Member
    Dealers around here are offering 2017 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4X4 for $18k. Thinking about 1 myself.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Tugar wrote: »
    Does anyone have a Kia Soul and if so, how do you like it?
    Neighbor in California bought one a year or so back and really likes it. For whatever that's worth.

    I can't get past the Flintstone roofline, but that's just me!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,664 Senior Member
    Big Al1 wrote: »
    My wife loves her Ford Escape!

    This is what I would go with...

    Best Small SUV/Crossover type I have ever driven (as a rental) was the Ford Edge. They are a little more $$$ though.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    KIA- - - - - - - - -

    Killed
    In
    Action

    The most frustrating electronic gremlins I'm seeing in my warranty inspection work usually involve some type of KIA automobiles. I checked out one awhile back that had a new transmission and six computers installed under warranty in the first 14K miles!
    Jerry
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,689 Senior Member
    Another vote for a Ford Escape. I've had an 03 and now have an 05. My parents bought a new 13, and recently traded it on a 15. They've really liked theirs.
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    Subarus are great, but problem with them is they hold their value so well it's hard to find a good deal on a used one!

    Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

    It's the same with a Honda CRV, they hold their value well.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,327 Senior Member
    I agree. Just about the ONLY downside to being empty nesters...no more Siennas.

    Hell, my wife and I have no kids - the M.V. is just to carry us and our stuff.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Right after we got married and the ONE time I suggested a minivan to my wife I was unprepared for what came out of her mouth. Went out next day and bought her a new Ford Explorer and it's been nothing but SUVs for her since (The Mazda is the technically a CUV). Let's just say the girl is NOT a fan... :guns:

    That's too bad, as minivans are much better vehicles for what people actually use them for.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,044 Senior Member
    I have ended up in a couple KIA Souls as rentals for work, and you would not be able to PAY me to take one of those now. Cramped, dangerously underpowered, and they have revived that 1978 Toyota technology of having a switch that turns off the air conditioner compressor when you stomp the accelerator to the floor to give it a little more power

    Which, in city driving means you pretty much only have AC when you are sitting at a stoplight
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,044 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ever try towing a horse trailer or a boat with one? As the years progressed we needed bigger vehicles because you can't carry multiple kids, multiple dogs, tons of luggage and tow large things behind you with any mini-van I've ever bumped into, so in the end the girl was right...

    Kinda hard to haul a dead deer out on ranch roads in one. Not to say I have not done that- all you need is a tarp, a heavy foot, and a lack of caring for the undercarriage
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Those KIA Souls don't look very aerodynamic to me.

    When ones goes by, I keep looking to see about 18 Orientals inside with cameras hung around their necks.............:tooth: :roll2: :roll2:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Ever try towing a horse trailer or a boat with one? As the years progressed we needed bigger vehicles because you can't carry multiple kids, multiple dogs, tons of luggage and tow large things behind you with any mini-van I've ever bumped into, so in the end the girl was right...

    Like I said, the way "most" people use them. 99% of the SUVs on the road will never tow anything, and they don't have the internal cargo capacity of a minivan.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Like I said, the way "most" people use them. 99% of the SUVs on the road will never tow anything, and they don't have the internal cargo capacity of a minivan.

    We have two crew cab pickup trucks and Debbie still uses her Honda Civic to pick up eight bags of horse feed every couple of weeks. All piled in the back seat. SUV's are a step up from a car and are more versatile than a van. SUV's are the modern version of a station wagon and don't necessarily have to tow anything to be functional.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    We have two crew cab pickup trucks and Debbie still uses her Honda Civic to pick up eight bags of horse feed every couple of weeks. All piled in the back seat. SUV's are a step up from a car and are more versatile than a van. SUV's are the modern version of a station wagon and don't necessarily have to tow anything to be functional.

    Most minivans have more space inside than most SUVs, get better mileage, are more comfortable, and are cheaper to own and operate.

    Like everything else, people's (actual) needs vary, but most people who buy an SUV use 10% of its capabilities and would be better served by a minivan, or even a hatchback car.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    Yes but I thought I was very clear I was speaking to MY wife's preferences and our needs. The other 99% people's needs mean little to me.

    Ah! Ok, then. Makes sense now. :up:
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,985 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    If we want to look at it from that perspective most people's needs would be very well served by a motorcycle or a Smart car. But very much like guns, choosing an automobile in many cases has little to do with needs...

    Yep, you're correct on both counts!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,327 Senior Member
    My wife was pretty excited to ditch the Mini vans. Actually, I had to talk her into the first one. I'm a fan of the platform, she is not.

    Ah yes the "What does my ride say about me to other people?" stigma.

    It seems that there's something about minivans that say "I'm no longer young and cruising to get laid". If you're not and not, who cares?

    When my co workers bring up the apparent lack of manliness of my vehicle, I ask them the following:

    "Does this vehicle make you think soccer moms, dance practice, and PTA meetings?" Typically gets nods.

    I then ask them:

    "Does this vehicle make you think 'tailgate full of rifles' like your lifted pickup does?" Uban camouflage, baby!

    More on that prejudice thing: by all reports the Mazda Miata is a pretty serious driver's automobile, yet if suffers from an extreme "Gay Man Driving" stigma. This does make me wonder, why doesn't the Jaguar E-type which it is so obviously modeled after, suffer the same social branding?:confused:

    I recently channel surfed into some snippet of a reality TV show commercial in which one of the female stars said "Buying a minivan is a little like loosing your virginity: it hurts for the first couple minutes, but then you start thinking about all the stuff you can put in there.":rotflmao:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,664 Senior Member
    I'm trying to decide myself between a nicer 3 year old truck.......

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    or a brand new (+$3000) base truck........

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    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,205 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide myself between a nicer 3 year old truck.......

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    or a brand new (+$3000) base truck........

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    Which one will hold some value better and which one will be easier to re-sell? White for me, look for a bigger cab too, a longer box is MUCH nicer the few times a year you need it..

    As too the original post, anything used made in Japan Mazda would be what I would look for in a daily if it has enough seating for you.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member
    I'll second / third / fourth the Ford Escape suggestion. Mrs. Cgg loves hers and the thing has been virtually bulletproof. 128K and counting, on a 2012 model. I bought it early in 2014 with ~ 55K on it. A quick check locally shows newer models in your price range, with less than 60K in mileage. If you look at similar model years, (2012 and older) you can add Mazda Tribute to the mix.
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  • gunwalkergunwalker Member Posts: 479 Member
    I had to give up my beloved 4Runner after 19 years. Wife could no longer get in and was not comfortable if she could get in. Bought a 2014 Subaru Forester and have come to really enjoy it. Excellent gas mileage, ave.34 on the hay. Very easy to enter and exit. Satisfied with power. Amazing traction. I urge you to use CAR Fax.Com to search. You can compare the same vehicle at different places and get a free car fax report.
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