Too hot for some jets to take off. This model can't over 118 degrees............never really thought about that aspect of a planes design where thin hot air would be a safety consideration with some models. Canadian made.
Been in plenty in the desert that do work just fine in very hot climates.
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Too hot for some jets to take off. This model can't over 118 degrees............never really thought about that aspect of a planes design where thin hot air would be a safety consideration with some models. Canadian made.
Been in plenty in the desert that do work just fine in very hot climates.
Used to hear about civilian aviators making a mistake at Lake Tahoe. They would fly in maybe in the evening when it was cooler and try to take off after vacation maybe a little later than planned, maybe a little more loaded and if it was hot enough with low humidity, boom they are beyond the effective ceiling of the airplane. The pilot was supposed to check a sign on the runway but didn't. NN will tell me if I'm wrong cause I don't ever know what I'm doing I just operate on theory.
It doesn't necessarily have to involve hot weather or low humidity- - - - -an incorrect estimate of gross weight can cause problems, too. About 75 of us boarded a KC-135 at Clark AB Phillippines after a typhoon evac, and everybody was estimating a little light on the weight of souvenirs, wood carvings, etc. that he was bringing onboard. The pilot used up all the runway and a little of the overrun before he finally got the thing flying! We got a long, profanity-laced lecture on aerodynamics over the intercom all the way back to Okinawa!
Jerry
Used to hear about civilian aviators making a mistake at Lake Tahoe. They would fly in maybe in the evening when it was cooler and try to take off after vacation maybe a little later than planned, maybe a little more loaded and if it was hot enough with low humidity, boom they are beyond the effective ceiling of the airplane. The pilot was supposed to check a sign on the runway but didn't. NN will tell me if I'm wrong cause I don't ever know what I'm doing I just operate on theory.
Your right.
It is an issue for all aircraft, when you get elevation and or hot air above optimum conditions.
The simplest way to put it is any thing that reduces the density of the atmosphere [air] will reduce the lift that can be generated by the air passing over the wing.
Sometimes you can overcome the problem with a longer runway provided the aircraft can get fast enough to create the lift necessary to get airborne and above any obstructions at the end of the runway. Sometimes you can reduce A/C weight and go somewhere close and get more fuel or you can reduce payload as stated above.
The operating manual for the A/C should have charts and graphs to determine the go no go runway length required for these issues.
You, also, have to use the charts to determine how much runway you need to stop in case you can not get the T/O speed required by that point.
Sometimes when we flew out of Yuma or Nellis when it was as hot as talked about here it was bearable with the canopy open; but,
when we closed the canopy for take off, it would be almost unbearable in the minute or two it took to get positioned on the runway for T/O.
The A/C would start cooling the cockpit about halfway down the runway.
Sometimes when we flew out of Yuma or Nellis when it was as hot as talked about here it was bearable with the canopy open; but,
when we closed the canopy for take off, it would be almost unbearable in the minute or two it took to get positioned on the runway for T/O.
The A/C would start cooling the cockpit about halfway down the runway.
Friend of mine in nuke power, a Senior Reactor Operator, was the navigator-and-other-stuff in an A-6 Intruder. He said that he always hoped the steam pressure was a little bit high on the catapult; didn't want to go swimming! He was tall, like you, and busted his knees up in an ejection from a cat shot that didn't quite get them up to speed. Said it was in the Med off the African coast during the summer. Probably not enough lift for the heat.
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer” ― Douglas Adams
Friend of mine in nuke power, a Senior Reactor Operator, was the navigator-and-other-stuff in an A-6 Intruder. He said that he always hoped the steam pressure was a little bit high on the catapult; didn't want to go swimming! He was tall, like you, and busted his knees up in an ejection from a cat shot that didn't quite get them up to speed. Said it was in the Med off the African coast during the summer. Probably not enough lift for the heat.
I expect so
A-6---EA-6A&B settle a little below the flight deck on a cat shot.
Where is the temperature sensor located? Heat off all that concrete and asphalt can skew the temperature a LOT. Blacktop roads can get near 200° on a hot day.
Anyway, that's a huge chunk of desert from Texas to SoCal. It's supposed to be hot! :roll2:
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer” ― Douglas Adams
No thanks, too many people here have been being caught it rip tides, a few deaths, also.
People in rip tides panic, and drown. What I was taught, and what I've read since then, is to not fight it. Just tread water and go with the flow. It dissipates after a distance and you can just tread water in the meantime. At the end where it gives out, slowly swim to shore. If you fight a rip tide you're gonna buy the farm.
“I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer” ― Douglas Adams
People in rip tides panic, and drown. What I was taught, and what I've read since then, is to not fight it. Just tread water and go with the flow. It dissipates after a distance and you can just tread water in the meantime. At the end where it gives out, slowly swim to shore. If you fight a rip tide you're gonna buy the farm.
Then there's Monastery Beach near Carmel, Ca. Rip tides and a vicious undertow. Locals call it "Mortuary Beach"...
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Like being in the broiler.
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your sweating and it is drying faster than you sweat it out.
Drink more water than you think you need.
But, you knew that.
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it is still day there
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No that would be bullhead city when its 120+.
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Last year in Parker Az.
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Been in plenty in the desert that do work just fine in very hot climates.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/nation-now/2017/06/19/its-so-hot-phoenix-they-cant-fly-planes/410766001/
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
Used to hear about civilian aviators making a mistake at Lake Tahoe. They would fly in maybe in the evening when it was cooler and try to take off after vacation maybe a little later than planned, maybe a little more loaded and if it was hot enough with low humidity, boom they are beyond the effective ceiling of the airplane. The pilot was supposed to check a sign on the runway but didn't. NN will tell me if I'm wrong cause I don't ever know what I'm doing I just operate on theory.
Jerry
With that distance, y'all could have gotten your doctorate on the subject by the time you got there!
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Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Your right.
It is an issue for all aircraft, when you get elevation and or hot air above optimum conditions.
The simplest way to put it is any thing that reduces the density of the atmosphere [air] will reduce the lift that can be generated by the air passing over the wing.
Sometimes you can overcome the problem with a longer runway provided the aircraft can get fast enough to create the lift necessary to get airborne and above any obstructions at the end of the runway. Sometimes you can reduce A/C weight and go somewhere close and get more fuel or you can reduce payload as stated above.
The operating manual for the A/C should have charts and graphs to determine the go no go runway length required for these issues.
You, also, have to use the charts to determine how much runway you need to stop in case you can not get the T/O speed required by that point.
when we closed the canopy for take off, it would be almost unbearable in the minute or two it took to get positioned on the runway for T/O.
The A/C would start cooling the cockpit about halfway down the runway.
Friend of mine in nuke power, a Senior Reactor Operator, was the navigator-and-other-stuff in an A-6 Intruder. He said that he always hoped the steam pressure was a little bit high on the catapult; didn't want to go swimming! He was tall, like you, and busted his knees up in an ejection from a cat shot that didn't quite get them up to speed. Said it was in the Med off the African coast during the summer. Probably not enough lift for the heat.
― Douglas Adams
I expect so
A-6---EA-6A&B settle a little below the flight deck on a cat shot.
Would be nice to have an afterburner
It's good for you, keeps the bad guys out of your blood and tissues. Down Side- You damn near get a heat stroke.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Where is the temperature sensor located? Heat off all that concrete and asphalt can skew the temperature a LOT. Blacktop roads can get near 200° on a hot day.
Anyway, that's a huge chunk of desert from Texas to SoCal. It's supposed to be hot! :roll2:
― Douglas Adams
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People in rip tides panic, and drown. What I was taught, and what I've read since then, is to not fight it. Just tread water and go with the flow. It dissipates after a distance and you can just tread water in the meantime. At the end where it gives out, slowly swim to shore. If you fight a rip tide you're gonna buy the farm.
― Douglas Adams
Then there's Monastery Beach near Carmel, Ca. Rip tides and a vicious undertow. Locals call it "Mortuary Beach"...
Supposed to "cool off" back into the mid-upper 90's for the weekend and chances for a few showers.