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Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
I'm thunking a Pygmy Rattlesnake or Copperhead/Cottonmouth. Only about 12-14" in long.

So I was spaying some Bug-Be-Gone outside around the garage door and walked to my front walkway and Jake was on my door mat. Then he slithered between the screen door and front door. I was gonna open the screen and scare him off, but realized I it was latched from the inside so I came around to get inside my house.

So I opened the front door and Jake decides to come on inside. O crap, only thing I could grab was a dang Swifter Duster so I try to pin it down and get it near a chair leg I pinned it down with. Then I went to the garage and retrieved a pair of long handled garden Snippers and got him in the jaws a couple times.

Was an aggressive little ****. So one cat was on the back porch and the other as I feared was getting very interested in it. Comical me trying to hold down Jake and shoo off a 17 pound cat who thought I was depriving him of some afternoon entertainment.

Anyhow dang thing is draped on the fence across the street by the retention pond. Maybe a hawk or buzzard will get a good meal from it.

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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,112 Senior Member
    Looks like a bull snake to me. Too bad you killed it. They're beneficial. I ran one out of my garage last summer, but was fortunate that I didn't have to kill him.

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bull+snake&id=C1EFD6F03D5BAF796E8E4FCEFA263E10A2164F71&FORM=IARRTH
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,811 Senior Member
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,521 Senior Member
    Not a pygmy. Those things have rattles. Not a copperhead: they're nowhere close to you. And they're not the same as a cottonmouth: that's a water moccasin, and it ain't that. No matter what, it's a nonvenomous snake.

    Looks like a corn or a rat snake. It's dead so you can actually get in closer and get a better photo....
    Overkill is underrated.
  • olesniperolesniper Senior Member Posts: 3,763 Senior Member
    Good snake.
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    Corn snake.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,391 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Corn snake
    :agree: :that:
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Well a Crow just got some of it. Landed on the fence about 10 feet away and slowly made its way over, got it in its beak and started to fly off..........then got up in the air and a piece of it fell out or all of it couldn't tell. More out there now. So it will help feed other critters.

    I have a good sized black snake in the backyard I often see, no question what he is.
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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    olesniper wrote: »
    Good snake.

    :that: You know what they say...
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,811 Senior Member
    I saw one in the dirt road today, almost ran it over. Only a few inches of the tail was out of the grass----I think it was a dark phase cottonmouth.

    Anyway not a big one and it beat feet before I could react.

    I would have made it a good snake, for sure.
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    Dead one! Glad I could help!
  • pjames777pjames777 Senior Member Posts: 1,421 Senior Member
    Bummer. Learn to identify the snakes of your region and the good ones won't have to die from a lack of knowledge.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Well if they are as numerous as rattlesnakes like in those Roundups they had in Lampasas TX and Claxton GA, they caught thousands and many more were still around. So there should be plenty more where that one came from with all the woods and empty lots around here.

    Case of mistaken identity, I reckon. Some snakes mimic rattlesnakes in color schemes and behavior. This one should have stayed outta my house. Not well lighted by the front door and I didn't want me or one of my cats to get bitten.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    We had a platoon Sgt in the 70s at Fort Riley who was terrified of snakes. One day while out in the field in gun jeeps with the tops removed toward evening he comes to our position........and dozes off in the passenger seat. A section Sgt took a Pork Chop mic curly coil like radio cable and threw it on his lap and yelled "SNAKE" dude woke up and went plum berserk.............took off his steel pot and started beating that cable like crazy which had fell to the floorboard...............he musta whacked it 10 or 15 times before he finally realized everyone was laughing at him and it wasn't a snake............he wasn't a happy camper and had some words with the junior Sgt :angry: :cuss: :mad: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,453 Senior Member
    It's a snake what shoulda stayed outside your house. You didn't invite it in, so it was a trespassin' snake. A home invader, as it were, and got his/her just desserts. :up: Just because it's a non venomous snake doesn't make it non dangerous. A bite from a non venomous one can still be nasty. Not like they brush their teeth and floss regularly. Nasty little nasties in their nasty mouths.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,513 Senior Member
    Dead
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    That's an "Oh S..T! Snake. Only way he'll hurt you is make you hurt yourself. He has Rattlesnake colorations but his head isn't shaped right and he has no rattles. He's definitely not a Cotton Mouth or Copper Head. I think they other guys pegged it it's a corn, bull or rat snake.
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  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    Have a friend whose wife can be a pain in @ss and is just mean most of the time when anyone is around her. it just her nature. She hates snakes. One day her grand kids were out at their ranch and I had a rubber snake in my truck. I talked the kids into putting it under her bedspread and on her pillow. I was told you could have heard her screams in the next county. Dang it I should have been able to hear her! The kids started howling in laughter at her screams, that was until she was going to beat them pulling such an awful joke on her. Grand dad intervened and trying not to break down and burst out laughing as he told his grand kids how could you pull such an awful joke on grand ma and then winked at them. I think that was about the time they said it was Mr Jeff's idea! Threw me under the bus they did. I just ignored her screaming and yelling at me and I high five the boys the next time I saw them.

    Rubber snakes can be fun...sometimes!
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    Have a friend whose wife can be a pain in @ss and is just mean most of the time when anyone is around her. it just her nature. She hates snakes. One day her grand kids were out at their ranch and I had a rubber snake in my truck. I talked the kids into putting it under her bedspread and on her pillow. I was told you could have heard her screams in the next county. Dang it I should have been able to hear her! The kids started howling in laughter at her screams, that was until she was going to beat them pulling such an awful joke on her. Grand dad intervened and trying not to break down and burst out laughing as he told his grand kids how could you pull such an awful joke on grand ma and then winked at them. I think that was about the time they said it was Mr Jeff's idea! Threw me under the bus they did. I just ignored her screaming and yelling at me and I high five the boys the next time I saw them.

    Rubber snakes can be fun...sometimes!

    I'm not mean and nasty, but if you want to make me act like it just taunt me with a snake, any kind, rubber or other wise. I will come after you and make you eat it!!!

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,811 Senior Member
    Everyone going to the next shoot will be required to bring a rubber snake
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    NN wrote: »
    Everyone going to the next shoot will be required to bring a rubber snake

    What will a .270 do to a rubber Jake The Snake?
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    Looks like a rat snake that was contact shot with a .270. Poor bastard probably suffered for half a day.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,964 Senior Member
    Jeff in TX wrote: »
    Rubber snakes can be fun...sometimes!

    So can plastic spiders!
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Not a pygmy. Those things have rattles. Not a copperhead: they're nowhere close to you. And they're not the same as a cottonmouth: that's a water moccasin, and it ain't that. No matter what, it's a nonvenomous snake.

    Looks like a corn or a rat snake. It's dead so you can actually get in closer and get a better photo....


    Yes most pygmies have rattles. But I've seen some small ones that the rattles weren't fully formed. Their tails will be vibrating like they have rattles>
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,113 Senior Member
    BTW, it's a rat snake. You want to leave them alone as they help out around the outside of the house. Yeah I know it's a snake, but not all snakes are bad! My wife came home to 5 footer in the bathroom, picked it up and took it outside using the bacon tongs. I'll have to see if she still has that picture!
    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,453 Senior Member
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 8,112 Senior Member
    Apparently we're all wrong. It's a non-venomous pygmy bullcornrat snake.

    I hope that clears this up.
    Jerry

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Snake, What Snake?...............no pic to prove it :tooth:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,251 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    Apparently we're all wrong. It's a non-venomous pygmy bullcornrat snake.

    I hope that clears this up.

    Well and truly disjointed cleared it up for me. Good snake.

    Mike
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  • mosseybuckmosseybuck Member Posts: 534 Senior Member
    I hate to see a "good" snake get killed as they are very beneficial. I don't even kill rattlesnakes, unless I'm going to eat them. But you are correct tennmike, harmless snakes often harbor nasty infectious critters in their mouths. I got bitten on my thumb by a harmless black snake several years ago and it got very infected and required doc visit to correct it. On the other hand I had a pet? alligator that I got on my first trip to Florida, in the early 50s. I kept him for about 3 or 4 years and one day while feeding him a chunk of canned dog food, he bit the hand that fed him! I jerked my hand back and broke a couple of his teeth off in my thumb nail, ouch! He got sick a few days later and took him to vet where he tried to cure him but alas, he died from an infection, poor Albert, RIP...
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