Nut up, or shut up!

Elk creek

Well, Wednesday will be an interesting day. My long range shooting mentor is taking me and my "steel gun" (the afore mentioned 308 win 700 SPS varmint) to Laramie Wyoming to shoot steel to 1150! He looked at my targets from last time out and we are going long. Well, not by Zee's standards:tooth:. He sent me elevation and barametric pressure readings to put in my ballistics calculator and figure my "come ups" temp and humidity we will have to get then. The only issue with equipment so far is I don't have a 20 MOA base on my rifle. This is going to interesting to say the least! But AWESOME!

Zee

If you can see it, you can hit it.

Good fortune in your endeavor. Wind will be your greatest enemy. Distance is a constant.

Elk creek

Zee wrote: »

If you can see it, you can hit it.

Good fortune in your endeavor. Wind will be your greatest enemy. Distance is a constant.

Thanks! Laramie is know for contantly changing winds, strong winds and on a light breezy day trucks are blown over. I can't wait!

Zee

A constant wind isn't bad. It's......well.......constant.

A shifting or changing wind is the fun one.

Jayhawker

Good luck... anxiously awaiting range report....

Linefinder

Zee wrote: »

If you can see it, you can hit it.

Good fortune in your endeavor. Wind will be your greatest enemy. Distance is a constant.

This. Distance means little. The wind....now, the wind is what makes things interesting.

The best (luckiest) shot I ever made was at a pdog at 344 yards (chip shot normally), but it was in a 54 mph broadside wind.

I wish I could say it was intentional, but it wasn't. I was firing a "spotter" six or so feet upwind of him. My intent was to kill him with my second shot.

Didn't need it.

Mike

Elk creek

Linefinder wrote: »

This. Distance means little. The wind....now, the wind is what makes things interesting.

The best (luckiest) shot I ever made was at a pdog at 344 yards (chip shot normally), but it was in a 54 mph broadside wind.

I wish I could say it was intentional, but it wasn't. I was firing a "spotter" six or so feet upwind of him. My intent was to kill him with my second shot.

Didn't need it.

Mike

Guy that's my spotter/coach shoots there a couple times a month. He is also an F-class shooter, and a dang good one.

Zee

Let me add, while Wind will be your greatest enemy towards hitting your target........it will also be your greatest teacher.

The only way to learn how to shoot in the wind is to..........shoot in the wind.

Elk creek

I'll get practice there for sure!

Gene L

When I went to the US Army's "Counter Sniper school" at FT Benning, back a long time ago, the wind was severe on one day. At 900 yards, to hit a steel target, I had to hold off about 42" to the right. As I remember. I also went to a sniper match in GA where the wind was so severe it blew the .223 off 9 or 10 inches at 100 yards. (I won the match, btw, even with a left 7 ring. and a 788 Rem rifle.)

Wind is a very important factor, even at close 100 yard range and a severe range. I can't remember but I think I was using a 55 gr. bullet with a 30 mph cross wind. I told the guy shooting after me to hold about a ten inches to the right, but he didn't.

Linefinder

Zee wrote: »

The only way to learn how to shoot in the wind is to..........shoot in the wind.

I thought that was my line. ....God knows I've said it often enough.

I never adjust the scope for wind. If you do, be prepared to chase bullets all day.

Mike

Jayhawker

I really learned about wind in Kansas...never stops...and I learned to love a Zero Value wind...

Elk creek

Jayhawker wrote: »

I really learned about wind in Kansas...never stops...and I learned to love a Zero Value wind...

Looking forward to this!

Varmintmist

Listen to theses guys. Distance you can dial, its just math with known constants. You know the bullet drop at a given distance, you know the graduations in your sighting system, you know the distance, and you click it in. Wind you have to interpret. Like Z said, the ONLY way to learn is to do.

bellcat

Good luck! Have fun!

NN

Good luck with it

41magnut

Zee wrote: »

Let me add, while Wind will be your greatest enemy towards hitting your target........it will also be your greatest teacher.

The only way to learn how to shoot in the wind is to..........shoot in the wind.

+ 1


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snake284

Zee wrote: »

A constant wind isn't bad. It's......well.......constant.

A shifting or changing wind is the fun one.

In all my life here on the Coast I have never seen a constant wind other than a tropical storm blowing 50 MPH. Wind is MY nemesis. His scope probably has enough adjustment to get to 1000 yards I would think, maybe not. But there's no static adjustment for a varying wind. And the worst part is while it may be 5 MPH at the bench, it could be calm or 10 MPH at the target and unless you're a wizard with reading wind flags or mirage it's a good luck policy.

snake284

Gene L wrote: »

When I went to the US Army's "Counter Sniper school" at FT Benning, back a long time ago, the wind was severe on one day. At 900 yards, to hit a steel target, I had to hold off about 42" to the right. As I remember. I also went to a sniper match in GA where the wind was so severe it blew the .223 off 9 or 10 inches at 100 yards. (I won the match, btw, even with a left 7 ring. and a 788 Rem rifle.)

Wind is a very important factor, even at close 100 yard range and a severe range. I can't remember but I think I was using a 55 gr. bullet with a 30 mph cross wind. I told the guy shooting after me to hold about a ten inches to the right, but he didn't.

Gene, nothing wrong with a 788 Remington. Mine was the most accurate rifle I ever owned. How many matches at my club I won with that dude. I remember when I had a friend glass bed it and it went from <.5 MOA to 1.5-2 inch groups. I was sick. But I read some old Bench Rest publications written by the great Warren Page. He said sometimes you need a pressure point on some rifles. He was right. I put the pressure point back in the forend and it went back to ultra accurate. It was cheap but even though it was a rear locker, it was one accurate rifle. Yep Townsen Whelen would say it was very interesting.

snake284

Zee wrote: »

Let me add, while Wind will be your greatest enemy towards hitting your target........it will also be your greatest teacher.

The only way to learn how to shoot in the wind is to..........shoot in the wind.

The Plain Truth!

snake284

Jayhawker wrote: »

I really learned about wind in Kansas...never stops...and I learned to love a Zero Value wind...

It actually stops here now and then, most notibly a couple days after a hard blowing cold front or in the summer at about 10 oclock at night until about 8 A.M. Other than that it's probably blowin' and goin'!!! And changin' every 10 seconds.

Jayhawker

In my part of KS the wind usually "laid down" sometime in the early morning and in the evening... doesn't mean there was no wind but at least round bales weren't being blown around the pasture...

shotgunshooter3

You suck. I really wish I had somewhere around here to do stuff like that


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big elk

I live in Laramie and have most of my life. When you are shooting up the canyon the wind will most likely come from at least 3 directions during your 1100 yds. If all long range hunters would and come and shoot here they would see just how easy it is to miss an elk at just 900 yds. Don't take it to serious and just have fun !!

Zee

Just for reference, this is what 1,100 yards looks like from both ends.

Axe

Don't tell anyone I said this, but I went on a hunt out that way in '92, and the mulies dropped to the ground laughing at me. The wind is definitely an obstacle if you are not prepared to make the required adjustments. I was off on most shots by not inches, but feet.

Elk creek

big elk wrote: »

I live in Laramie and have most of my life. When you are shooting up the canyon the wind will most likely come from at least 3 directions during your 1100 yds. If all long range hunters would and come and shoot here they would see just how easy it is to miss an elk at just 900 yds. Don't take it to serious and just have fun !!

That's why people practice there. It challenging! camt wait!! Cmon out!

Elk creek

Zee wrote: »

Just for reference, this is what 1,100 yards looks like from both ends.

hehe hehe, this is going to be fun!

Jayhawker

Zee wrote: »

Sucker rod sure is handy....about as many uses as duct tape

Elk creek

Axe wrote: »

Don't tell anyone I said this, but I went on a hunt out that way in '92, and the mulies dropped to the ground laughing at me. The wind is definitely an obstacle if you are not prepared to make the required adjustments. I was off on most shots by not inches, but feet.

The altitude too. I have a 348 win that I loaded some cartridges for and shot some here in Colorado. Well, we moved to Ohio for a bit. The same rounds shot 1.5" lower there. We are back in CO and low and behold back to origional POA.