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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Why Jack? Why Speechless? This is totally predictable. ESPN has shown their tendency to lean left just as the rest of the main stream media. Just because they're predominate subject is sports, they're still part of the main stream media. Instead of taking a non political stance on everything, they would rather try to push the liberal agenda than just report sports, which should have nothing to do with politics. So no matter how ridiculous this is, it's still stinks of main stream media.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    All he needs to do is start screaming 'racism" and all will be reversed.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Jack BurtonJack Burton Member Posts: 379 Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Why Jack? Why Speechless? This is totally predictable. ESPN has shown their tendency to lean left just as the rest of the main stream media. Just because they're predominate subject is sports, they're still part of the main stream media. Instead of taking a non political stance on everything, they would rather try to push the liberal agenda than just report sports, which should have nothing to do with politics. So no matter how ridiculous this is, it's still stinks of main stream media.

    Oh, I am fully aware of the line they tote. I have not watched an ESPN program in years because of it. To do this to an Asian-American because of his name, and at the most multi-culty network (face it, they make Benetton look like the cigar lounge on the Titanic) is counter to the diversity mantra. Not to mention an insult to the intelligence of the few viewers they still have. I said speechless because with liberals these instances are a mere mile marker quickly receding in the rear view mirror as they stomp on the accelerator. By this time next year I foresee their anchors leading antifa riots.
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    All he needs to do is start screaming 'wacism" and all will be reversed.

    FIFY.:jester:
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    FIFY.:jester:
    Make_My_Day
    All he needs to do is start screaming 'wacism" and all will be reversed.

    Don't you mean "lacism?' :jester:
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Jack BurtonJack Burton Member Posts: 379 Member
    Fisheadgib wrote: »
    FIFY.:jester:
    Don't you mean "lacism?' :jester:

    Ho Lee.......
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    They just moved him to a different game. Seems like the sort of thing any large corporation dependent upon a large audience would do, try to avoid as much controversy as possible.

    Which large audience would that be? I see a large corporation pandering to a small audience in a rediculous attempt to be PC and in effect making a much larger audience see them as idiot's.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    They just moved him to a different game. Seems like the sort of thing any large corporation dependent upon a large audience would do, try to avoid as much controversy as possible.


    Pretty much where I land on this too. Is it stupid? Yeah, but the folks likely to be upset by such a silly thing are exactly the folks you are going to find at that event. Easily excited college aged kids. Folks who aren't known for their discernment or impulse control and who are very likely to be suffering from a self induced impairment. This isn't ESPN flying the 'flake flag, this is them understanding the audience at the venue.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,905 Senior Member
    Quietly switching a broadcaster from one game to another to be sensitive about a terrorist attack that just happened on that campus is just smart. Sure in a different time they may not have to do that, but that's not the time we live in. And yes the audience for college football is massive and yes a lot of it is at or near the college age when people are prone to be more sensitive about such things. You don't get to live in the world you wished you live in. You have to live in the one that actually exists.

    Quietly? It is International News!!! People in other countries are laughing at us over such nonsense.

    You honestly think this is the right thing to do?

    As Americans we should be standing together regardless of your name, color, religion, anything at all, we are supposed to be UNITED. Ever hear of United we stand, divided we fall? Well these idiots are dividing our Country and half of our so called political leaders are helping.

    A few weeks ago nobody would have cared what the sports announcers name was as long as he/she did a good job.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    They just moved him to a different game. Seems like the sort of thing any large corporation dependent upon a large audience would do, try to avoid as much controversy as possible.

    I would prefer a large corporation to laugh at absurdity, personally.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,916 Senior Member
    Sooooo...does this mean that Sheila Jackson Lee (Obviously the love child of Stonewall and Robert E.) needs to leave Congress?
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,916 Senior Member
    Quietly switching a broadcaster from one game to another to be sensitive about a terrorist attack that just happened on that campus is just smart. Sure in a different time they may not have to do that, but that's not the time we live in. And yes the audience for college football is massive and yes a lot of it is at or near the college age when people are prone to be more sensitive about such things. You don't get to live in the world you wished you live in. You have to live in the one that actually exists.

    If this is an example of the "world we live in"......I want to get off....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    You don't get to live in the world you wished you live in. You have to live in the one that actually exists.

    This really sounds rediculous coming from you. This ESPN response is pandering to liberals that reject reality and want the world to work the way they imagine it and they'll, rant, pee and moan, and protest against anything that doesn't fit their imagined Utopia. If ESPN would havd went on with business as usual, it's likely that nothing would have become of it and if anyone brought it up as being insensitive, they would look like the fool's. Should the world shun anyone named Adolf? When we elected a president whose name was Hussein, where was your outcry about sensitivity to the Iraqi people who were terrorized by his rule? The fact that Robert Lee is Asian/American makes it even more rediculous.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Meanwhile this weekend about a dozen Cleveland Browns football players took a knee during the national anthem. I'm pretty disgusted with ALL the football teams, from HS to the NFL doing stupid stuff.

    The guy is an announcer, not a player. The fans aren't there to see him; they're there to see the teams play, the cheerleaders shake that thang, and act like the idiots probably acted at the coliseum in Rome back when Caesar was hanging out there. They really don't care what some announcers name is; they're there for...........whatever floats their boat.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    I vaguely remember a lot of people screaming their head off that we elected a man who's middle name was Hussein. Our current president scored a lot of points with a lot of those people demanding his birth certificate and insinuating that he was illegitimate and not a real American. One side does not have a monopoly on raving fools.

    All ESPN did was move Robert Lee to a different game rather than having him call a game at a university where someone was killed over a statue of Robert Lee. It is unfortunate that they felt they had to do it, but it's also unfortunate that someone thought they had to commit a terrorist act over a statue. Also I will note that you're upset that they bowed to a potential controversy from the left while actively stirring a controversy from the right.

    Give me a break. The left's reaction to being upset is burning down the house. The right's reaction is sarcasm over stupidity...it's beyond me how you don't see the difference.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,934 Senior Member
    My take on this is that it reflects what ESPN thinks of their viewers' intelligence.
    Jerry

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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    Just gotta laugh at this. Geezus, you can't make this stuff up. Liberalism is its own reward.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,109 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    Quietly? It is International News!!! People in other countries are laughing at us over such nonsense.

    Yep. The absurdity of making a decision like that is not lost no matter how it is explained.

    I expect the next step will be to delete all listings of people with the name and initials of R.E.Lee from all phone books in the USA.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    JerryBobCo wrote: »
    My take on this is that it reflects what ESPN thinks of their viewers' intelligence.

    Bubba from the South don't give a rip about the guys name. Show the football game! More beer and chips! More shots of the cheerleaders! Woo Hoo! Don't worry 'bout the mule goin' blind! HOLD THAT LINE! HOLD THAT LINE! :rotflmao:
    orchidman wrote: »
    Yep. The absurdity of making a decision like that is not lost no matter how it is explained.

    I expect the next step will be to delete all listings of people with the name and initials of R.E.Lee from all phone books in the USA.

    Is our own little redheaded feller Buffy suspect because his last name is Lee? Oh, the humanity! :silly: :silly: :tooth:
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    The game isn't even on TV, it's on ESPN live stream.

    Meanwhile, 63 people were shot in Chicago last weekend, how did the lefts priorities get so screwed up.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    I'd prefer them to say "screw you, it's just the guy's name. Quit acting like little bitches."

    I guess that's what I've been trying to explain to Alpha but I'm not as good with words as you.:jester: How come he doesn't try to spin up a crazy line of BS with you?
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Maybe hard reality gets to him. I dunno.
    Seriously. I can't comprehend this. Someone who would honest to God be offended that someone's name is the same as someone who lived over 100 years ago should put a 12 gauge in their mouth and pull the trigger.

    I think that would taste bad, but then again, not for long
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,610 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Maybe hard reality gets to him. I dunno.
    Seriously. I can't comprehend this. Someone who would honest to God be offended that someone's name is the same as someone who lived over 100 years ago should put a 12 gauge in their mouth and pull the trigger.


    I'm in a weird position here. On one hand, I agreed with alpha that this was a business decision by an entity who would like to avoid possible controversy, however stupid it may be. Face it, we've seen businesses boycotted for similarly stupid things in the past. Call it catering, call it pandering, the end result is ESPN is trying to make money and a very large segment of their audience is college aged and leans left.

    On the other hand, cpj is also right. I won't suggest anybody should suck start a shotgun, but if somebody is so easily offended that having an announcer at a game who has a name similar to the name of a controversial figure in American history is a "trigger" for you.... you're going to want to sit down and reassess your life.
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Diver43 wrote: »
    Quietly? It is International News!!! People in other countries are laughing at us over such nonsense.

    You honestly think this is the right thing to do?

    As Americans we should be standing together regardless of your name, color, religion, anything at all, we are supposed to be UNITED. Ever hear of United we stand, divided we fall? Well these idiots are dividing our Country and half of our so called political leaders are helping.

    A few weeks ago nobody would have cared what the sports announcers name was as long as he/she did a good job.

    Well said Ron, and so true.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Both things can be true and it pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. It is a sad statement that this situation would be a problem for people, but the fact that it almost certainly would is the fact ESPN has to deal with. Sure we'd love to see them take a stand and just say "shut up, you're all being stupid", but it's easier to say when you don't have billions in advertising revenue at stake in the decision.

    Exactly. And maybe this overkill attitude or underkill, is why we end up with all this PC Rhetoric.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,398 Senior Member
    Both things can be true and it pretty much sums up my thoughts as well. It is a sad statement that this situation would be a problem for people, but the fact that it almost certainly would is the fact ESPN has to deal with. Sure we'd love to see them take a stand and just say "shut up, you're all being stupid", but it's easier to say when you don't have billions in advertising revenue at stake in the decision.

    Thing is they didnt deal with it. They caved fast and hard. Now any little thing the leftys are triggered by (side thought, why doesnt the term triggered trigger the leftys??) that ESPN does, they will expect ESPN to do what they consider correct instantly or they will cause problems.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,654 Senior Member
    People DECIDE to be "offended" - or not. *shrug*
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    This is how window licking crayon eating stupid ESPN looks to anyone with two viable brain cells.

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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,147 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    People DECIDE to be "offended" - or not. *shrug*

    Adults don't get offended.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,654 Senior Member
    bullsi1911 wrote: »
    Adults don't get offended.

    Pretty much. Several years back I was in one of those HUGE "Antique Malls", wearing a skirt. A woman was mighty curious about me, and started her conversation with "I don't mean to offend...".

    I told her "Offense is for Liberals - I'm not 'offended', and its pretty darn hard to 'offend' me. Ask away!".
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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