Yeah, but that boar can insiminate 10 Sows in a week. That could end up being 80 pigs. But then again every little bit helps. Yeah let your boy get that boar. That would be cool.
There'll always be other males around. Take out the females, and you end the baby factory.
Great way to loosen up and relax after dealing with 'Harvey'. :up:
I like your choice of a shooting stand.
Maybe next time you could rig up a seat on the roof of the John Deere, complete with shade shelter and a drinks holder.........A couple of ratchet ties a folding camp chair and a beach umbrella would probably do. :tooth:
Bet the workers were happy.
Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
Yeah, but that boar can insiminate 10 Sows in a week. That could end up being 80 pigs. But then again every little bit helps. Yeah let your boy get that boar. That would be cool.
But each sow can have up to 3 or 4 liters a year. Possibly 8 to a liter!!
even if only 4 from each batch live, that is 12-16 new pigs per sow, per year. Easily uncontrollable if you do t stay on top of it.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
"Horrible, yes. . .but we have been invaded. Lord, what can we do?"
"Kill them, Sir! Kill every last man of them." - Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, Gods and Generals. :guns:
Well, in the hunter's eye..........it is a fine balance of keeping them down enough to please the farmer while leaving a remnant to feed the hunter's desire.
If I cleared them ALL out..........I'd be out of a job and past time.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
Great way to loosen up and relax after dealing with 'Harvey'. :up:
I like your choice of a shooting stand.
Maybe next time you could rig up a seat on the roof of the John Deere, complete with shade shelter and a drinks holder.........A couple of ratchet ties a folding camp chair and a beach umbrella would probably do. :tooth:
Bet the workers were happy.
It WAS a great way to get back in the "groove".
I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.
One day I will, just to give it a try.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
On a side note, this is the first time hunting with a NightForce scope. I will aay that the clarity is exquisite!! The mil reticle sucks balls. Too many gaps.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.
Well, in the hunter's eye..........it is a fine balance of keeping them down enough to please the farmer while leaving a remnant to feed the hunter's desire.
If I cleared them ALL out..........I'd be out of a job and past time.
Given their breeding habits and the fact that you also have a real life to contend with, it is truly admirable that you think that you CAN! :usa: It's the valiant effort that counts here. See Teddy Roosevelt "The Man in the Arena"
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I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.
One day I will, just to give it a try.[/QUOTE]
Where Huey and M60 are unavailable, Messrs Deere and Stoner must serve. . .
But each sow can have up to 3 or 4 liters a year. Possibly 8 to a liter!!
even if only 4 from each batch live, that is 12-16 new pigs per sow, per year. Easily uncontrollable if you do t stay on top of it.
Yeah, actually that could be as many as 32 per pig per year. They can produce as many as 8 per litter. But one boar can do several sows so he can really cover some territory. On our lease it's kind of an unwritten rule to shoot any boar we see, even if there's a deer standing there, you shoot the boar first(Yeah right, I'm gonna do that). But like I say, shoot em all, everyone you see if you can get off a shot. All of us doing this we have to start making a dent in them. I'm pretty ethical minded as far as game goes. I like to be able to brag about what I shoot with a good conscience. But with pigs, hell I would shoot em anyway I can. In a tower under feed, in a truck, in a plane or helicopter. I see no wrong way to do it. Whatever you're doing however you do it, just keep doing it. You're making a dent in them.
One thing I lack that you have. I don't have access to shooting them in planted fields. Where I hunt there's bunches of hogs, but shots are precious few. There's so much thick brush for cover and there's oaks (Acorns most of the year) for food, plus they're very nocturnal and feed in the fields across the creek off our lease, we hardly ever see one in daylight hours. That sucks. However those who hunt open grain fields kill most of what's killed by hunting around here.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Well pardner, install your oval forward assist, your triangular handguards, don your green utilities, pop the Stones Gimme Shelter in the tape deck on dustoff, and enjoy your retro time in the "Squeecong Delta" :jester:
Now that you mention shotguns, you might consider that as your next autopsy project. You've given us excellent studies on single projectile tracks and calibers .45 and below; this would allow us to study the effects of different pellet sizes and counts, of slugs, and of the low-recoil "duty" loads (both buck and slug) versus the more tooth-rattling variety.
I KNOW you'd get serious jollies out of sneaking up close enough to play that game, and it's worth noting that Mossberg makes their 590-A1 with a bayonet lug. . .
If he could get close enough, he could put that birdshot myth right in the toilet where it belongs. You would have to be quick with the secondary to humanely dispatch it though.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Well pardner, install your oval forward assist, your triangular handguards, don your green utilities, pop the Stones Gimme Shelter in the tape deck on dustoff, and enjoy your retro time in the "Squeecong Delta" :jester:
Now that you mention shotguns, you might consider that as your next autopsy project. You've given us excellent studies on single projectile tracks and calibers .45 and below; this would allow us to study the effects of different pellet sizes and counts, of slugs, and of the low-recoil "duty" loads (both buck and slug) versus the more tooth-rattling variety.
I KNOW you'd get serious jollies out of sneaking up close enough to play that game, and it's worth noting that Mossberg makes their 590-A1 with a bayonet lug. . .
As of today, the Tac-14 is ordered. I WILL be shooting something with a 14" barreled slug and doing a full autopsy. Following that, the 00 Buck reduced recoil load.
After that...........bird shot may just have to come into play.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
I know that many rounds end with the same result. But, I am exceedingly pleased with the dropping on the spot and complete pass through with the 6.5cal, 140gr A-Max. It continues to afford the accuracy and terminal performance I demand for medium game. I have had less that acceptable terminal performance from Berger. But, in the myriad of game I've shot with the A-Max..........I have never had less that acceptable performance. And that racks up to quite a high number.
The results speak for themselves. Whether soft tissue or bone. High velocity or low. They just flat out kill things as they should be killed. And hit the targets needing to be hit.
Not much more I can ask for.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
I know that many rounds end with the same result. But, I am exceedingly pleased with the dropping on the spot and complete pass through with the 6.5cal, 140gr A-Max. It continues to afford the accuracy and terminal performance I demand for medium game. I have had less that acceptable terminal performance from Berger. But, in the myriad of game I've shot with the A-Max..........I have never had less that acceptable performance. And that racks up to quite a high number.
The results speak for themselves. Whether soft tissue or bone. High velocity or low. They just flat out kill things as they should be killed. And hit the targets needing to be hit.
Not much more I can ask for.
I'm Glad you pointed this out. I have a buddy that's not a very experienced hunter thinks Bergers are the best thing since the invention of sex and ice cream. I was suspicious that he may have been a victim of the Hype, but wasn't sure. I've seen your evidence on here so my questions are answered. I'm like cpj, bring back the AMax for all calibers.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I spoke with the folks at Hornady and they told me that where they "replaced" an AMax with an ELD, all it was was a change of tip material to the new heatshield. Nothing else supposedly changed
I was under the impression there was a slight change to the profile of the bullet as well. The old 6mm Amax was 105 grain. The ELD is 108.
But the main thing that annoys me is, they supposedly didn't change much on them, but charge nearly $10/box more for the ELD as compared to the Amax. $34/box is a bit much for an "improved" Amax.
I spoke with the folks at Hornady and they told me that where they "replaced" an AMax with an ELD, all it was was a change of tip material to the new heatshield. Nothing else supposedly changed
In .30cal 168gr, they changed the ogive and boattail as well.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
In .30cal 168gr, they changed the ogive and boattail as well.
Without doing a search, can you tell me what the heaviest ELD .30 Caliber they make? Wouldn't mind trying some in my .300 WBY. Mag.
I probably got no business even asking this. I no way need anything like that for where I hunt and the shots I have. Any shot I'm going to have beyond 300 yards is going to be a moving target and most likely moving at a run across the sendero. But damn if you aren't a hell of an enabler. You got my curiosity up. I was perfectly content with my relatively cheap ass Game Kings shooting at game at 300 to at the very most 350 yards. Hell, I can't even see that far anymore.
I've got some Berger VLD hunting bullets for my 7mms but after all the reports on there piss poor performance on game I won't use them except for punching paper. I want something that will kill hogs DRT at 300 Plus yards. I know the Game Kings will do that but if something else will do it even more reliably, then I want to try it.
I'm not going anywhere, and I'm anxious to read about your findings and results of the ELDs to see if I want to spend that kind of money on bullets.
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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I like your choice of a shooting stand.
Maybe next time you could rig up a seat on the roof of the John Deere, complete with shade shelter and a drinks holder.........A couple of ratchet ties a folding camp chair and a beach umbrella would probably do. :tooth:
Bet the workers were happy.
It is my favorite caliber. So many choices. So many platforms. Such great results.
I have no personal experience with the Swift. Never fired one. But honestly, I don't think there is a 6.5 I wouldn't ultimately love in the end.
Just depends on your mission.
But each sow can have up to 3 or 4 liters a year. Possibly 8 to a liter!!
even if only 4 from each batch live, that is 12-16 new pigs per sow, per year. Easily uncontrollable if you do t stay on top of it.
Well, in the hunter's eye..........it is a fine balance of keeping them down enough to please the farmer while leaving a remnant to feed the hunter's desire.
If I cleared them ALL out..........I'd be out of a job and past time.
It WAS a great way to get back in the "groove".
I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.
One day I will, just to give it a try.
Nectar of God.
Gee I love that kind of talk!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
You can look at it both ways, just shoot em on sight, all of em.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Go to the 2min 30 sec mark...........:roll2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=180&v=uHJA3iXelRs
Given their breeding habits and the fact that you also have a real life to contend with, it is truly admirable that you think that you CAN! :usa: It's the valiant effort that counts here. See Teddy Roosevelt "The Man in the Arena"
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.
One day I will, just to give it a try.[/QUOTE]
Where Huey and M60 are unavailable, Messrs Deere and Stoner must serve. . .
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Hmmmmmm, I have access to all of those.
Yeah, actually that could be as many as 32 per pig per year. They can produce as many as 8 per litter. But one boar can do several sows so he can really cover some territory. On our lease it's kind of an unwritten rule to shoot any boar we see, even if there's a deer standing there, you shoot the boar first(Yeah right, I'm gonna do that). But like I say, shoot em all, everyone you see if you can get off a shot. All of us doing this we have to start making a dent in them. I'm pretty ethical minded as far as game goes. I like to be able to brag about what I shoot with a good conscience. But with pigs, hell I would shoot em anyway I can. In a tower under feed, in a truck, in a plane or helicopter. I see no wrong way to do it. Whatever you're doing however you do it, just keep doing it. You're making a dent in them.
One thing I lack that you have. I don't have access to shooting them in planted fields. Where I hunt there's bunches of hogs, but shots are precious few. There's so much thick brush for cover and there's oaks (Acorns most of the year) for food, plus they're very nocturnal and feed in the fields across the creek off our lease, we hardly ever see one in daylight hours. That sucks. However those who hunt open grain fields kill most of what's killed by hunting around here.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Sell raffle tickets to see who gets to carry your ammo! And then show them how to shoot pigs in this manner and let them have their turn:applause:
Well pardner, install your oval forward assist, your triangular handguards, don your green utilities, pop the Stones Gimme Shelter in the tape deck on dustoff, and enjoy your retro time in the "Squeecong Delta" :jester:
Now that you mention shotguns, you might consider that as your next autopsy project. You've given us excellent studies on single projectile tracks and calibers .45 and below; this would allow us to study the effects of different pellet sizes and counts, of slugs, and of the low-recoil "duty" loads (both buck and slug) versus the more tooth-rattling variety.
I KNOW you'd get serious jollies out of sneaking up close enough to play that game, and it's worth noting that Mossberg makes their 590-A1 with a bayonet lug. . .
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
As of today, the Tac-14 is ordered. I WILL be shooting something with a 14" barreled slug and doing a full autopsy. Following that, the 00 Buck reduced recoil load.
After that...........bird shot may just have to come into play.
The results speak for themselves. Whether soft tissue or bone. High velocity or low. They just flat out kill things as they should be killed. And hit the targets needing to be hit.
Not much more I can ask for.
There is that.
But, I have a supply.
I'm Glad you pointed this out. I have a buddy that's not a very experienced hunter thinks Bergers are the best thing since the invention of sex and ice cream. I was suspicious that he may have been a victim of the Hype, but wasn't sure. I've seen your evidence on here so my questions are answered. I'm like cpj, bring back the AMax for all calibers.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
I was under the impression there was a slight change to the profile of the bullet as well. The old 6mm Amax was 105 grain. The ELD is 108.
But the main thing that annoys me is, they supposedly didn't change much on them, but charge nearly $10/box more for the ELD as compared to the Amax. $34/box is a bit much for an "improved" Amax.
In .30cal 168gr, they changed the ogive and boattail as well.
Without doing a search, can you tell me what the heaviest ELD .30 Caliber they make? Wouldn't mind trying some in my .300 WBY. Mag.
I probably got no business even asking this. I no way need anything like that for where I hunt and the shots I have. Any shot I'm going to have beyond 300 yards is going to be a moving target and most likely moving at a run across the sendero. But damn if you aren't a hell of an enabler. You got my curiosity up. I was perfectly content with my relatively cheap ass Game Kings shooting at game at 300 to at the very most 350 yards. Hell, I can't even see that far anymore.
I've got some Berger VLD hunting bullets for my 7mms but after all the reports on there piss poor performance on game I won't use them except for punching paper. I want something that will kill hogs DRT at 300 Plus yards. I know the Game Kings will do that but if something else will do it even more reliably, then I want to try it.
I'm not going anywhere, and I'm anxious to read about your findings and results of the ELDs to see if I want to spend that kind of money on bullets.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/30-cal-308-220-gr-eld-x#!/
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/30-cal-.308-225-gr-eld-match#!/