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First blood with the new .260 Remington!!

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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,702 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Yeah, but that boar can insiminate 10 Sows in a week. That could end up being 80 pigs. But then again every little bit helps. Yeah let your boy get that boar. That would be cool.
    There'll always be other males around. Take out the females, and you end the baby factory.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,271 Senior Member
    Great way to loosen up and relax after dealing with 'Harvey'. :up:

    I like your choice of a shooting stand.

    Maybe next time you could rig up a seat on the roof of the John Deere, complete with shade shelter and a drinks holder.........A couple of ratchet ties a folding camp chair and a beach umbrella would probably do. :tooth:

    Bet the workers were happy.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • AxeAxe Member Posts: 421 Member
    reminds me Zee, I need some bacon!
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Six-Gun wrote: »
    You know, yer not helping my hankering to build something in 6.5mm...

    It is my favorite caliber. So many choices. So many platforms. Such great results.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Yeah.....I've been vacillating between a .260 Rem and a .220 Swift for awhile now

    I have no personal experience with the Swift. Never fired one. But honestly, I don't think there is a 6.5 I wouldn't ultimately love in the end.

    Just depends on your mission.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Yeah, but that boar can insiminate 10 Sows in a week. That could end up being 80 pigs. But then again every little bit helps. Yeah let your boy get that boar. That would be cool.

    But each sow can have up to 3 or 4 liters a year. Possibly 8 to a liter!!

    even if only 4 from each batch live, that is 12-16 new pigs per sow, per year. Easily uncontrollable if you do t stay on top of it.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    "Horrible, yes. . .but we have been invaded. Lord, what can we do?"

    "Kill them, Sir! Kill every last man of them." - Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, Gods and Generals. :guns:

    Well, in the hunter's eye..........it is a fine balance of keeping them down enough to please the farmer while leaving a remnant to feed the hunter's desire.

    If I cleared them ALL out..........I'd be out of a job and past time.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    orchidman wrote: »
    Great way to loosen up and relax after dealing with 'Harvey'. :up:

    I like your choice of a shooting stand.

    Maybe next time you could rig up a seat on the roof of the John Deere, complete with shade shelter and a drinks holder.........A couple of ratchet ties a folding camp chair and a beach umbrella would probably do. :tooth:

    Bet the workers were happy.

    It WAS a great way to get back in the "groove".

    I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.

    One day I will, just to give it a try.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Axe wrote: »
    reminds me Zee, I need some bacon!

    Nectar of God.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    On a side note, this is the first time hunting with a NightForce scope. I will aay that the clarity is exquisite!! The mil reticle sucks balls. Too many gaps.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    "Horrible, yes. . .but we have been invaded. Lord, what can we do?"

    "Kill them, Sir! Kill every last man of them." - Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, Gods and Generals. :guns:

    Gee I love that kind of talk!

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    There'll always be other males around. Take out the females, and you end the baby factory.

    You can look at it both ways, just shoot em on sight, all of em.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 8,271 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    It WAS a great way to get back in the "groove".

    I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.

    One day I will, just to give it a try.


    Go to the 2min 30 sec mark...........:roll2:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=180&v=uHJA3iXelRs
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,803 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Well, in the hunter's eye..........it is a fine balance of keeping them down enough to please the farmer while leaving a remnant to feed the hunter's desire.

    If I cleared them ALL out..........I'd be out of a job and past time.

    Given their breeding habits and the fact that you also have a real life to contend with, it is truly admirable that you think that you CAN! :usa: It's the valiant effort that counts here. See Teddy Roosevelt "The Man in the Arena"
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,803 Senior Member
    [QUOTE=Zee;683584
    I've been asked before if I wanted to ride on the shredder or combine. It's just so dusty and vibratory, shooting for the moving platform with anything other than a high volume repeater or a shotgun and buckshot is a lesson in futility.

    One day I will, just to give it a try.[/QUOTE]



    Where Huey and M60 are unavailable, Messrs Deere and Stoner must serve. . .
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »

    Where Huey and M60 are unavailable, Messrs Deere and Stoner must serve. . .

    Hmmmmmm, I have access to all of those.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    But each sow can have up to 3 or 4 liters a year. Possibly 8 to a liter!!

    even if only 4 from each batch live, that is 12-16 new pigs per sow, per year. Easily uncontrollable if you do t stay on top of it.

    Yeah, actually that could be as many as 32 per pig per year. They can produce as many as 8 per litter. But one boar can do several sows so he can really cover some territory. On our lease it's kind of an unwritten rule to shoot any boar we see, even if there's a deer standing there, you shoot the boar first(Yeah right, I'm gonna do that). But like I say, shoot em all, everyone you see if you can get off a shot. All of us doing this we have to start making a dent in them. I'm pretty ethical minded as far as game goes. I like to be able to brag about what I shoot with a good conscience. But with pigs, hell I would shoot em anyway I can. In a tower under feed, in a truck, in a plane or helicopter. I see no wrong way to do it. Whatever you're doing however you do it, just keep doing it. You're making a dent in them.

    One thing I lack that you have. I don't have access to shooting them in planted fields. Where I hunt there's bunches of hogs, but shots are precious few. There's so much thick brush for cover and there's oaks (Acorns most of the year) for food, plus they're very nocturnal and feed in the fields across the creek off our lease, we hardly ever see one in daylight hours. That sucks. However those who hunt open grain fields kill most of what's killed by hunting around here.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,546 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Hmmmmmm, I have access to all of those.

    Sell raffle tickets to see who gets to carry your ammo! And then show them how to shoot pigs in this manner and let them have their turn:applause:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,803 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    Hmmmmmm, I have access to all of those.

    Well pardner, install your oval forward assist, your triangular handguards, don your green utilities, pop the Stones Gimme Shelter in the tape deck on dustoff, and enjoy your retro time in the "Squeecong Delta" :jester:

    Now that you mention shotguns, you might consider that as your next autopsy project. You've given us excellent studies on single projectile tracks and calibers .45 and below; this would allow us to study the effects of different pellet sizes and counts, of slugs, and of the low-recoil "duty" loads (both buck and slug) versus the more tooth-rattling variety.

    I KNOW you'd get serious jollies out of sneaking up close enough to play that game, and it's worth noting that Mossberg makes their 590-A1 with a bayonet lug. . .
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,205 Senior Member
    If he could get close enough, he could put that birdshot myth right in the toilet where it belongs. You would have to be quick with the secondary to humanely dispatch it though.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Well pardner, install your oval forward assist, your triangular handguards, don your green utilities, pop the Stones Gimme Shelter in the tape deck on dustoff, and enjoy your retro time in the "Squeecong Delta" :jester:

    Now that you mention shotguns, you might consider that as your next autopsy project. You've given us excellent studies on single projectile tracks and calibers .45 and below; this would allow us to study the effects of different pellet sizes and counts, of slugs, and of the low-recoil "duty" loads (both buck and slug) versus the more tooth-rattling variety.

    I KNOW you'd get serious jollies out of sneaking up close enough to play that game, and it's worth noting that Mossberg makes their 590-A1 with a bayonet lug. . .

    As of today, the Tac-14 is ordered. I WILL be shooting something with a 14" barreled slug and doing a full autopsy. Following that, the 00 Buck reduced recoil load.

    After that...........bird shot may just have to come into play.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    I know that many rounds end with the same result. But, I am exceedingly pleased with the dropping on the spot and complete pass through with the 6.5cal, 140gr A-Max. It continues to afford the accuracy and terminal performance I demand for medium game. I have had less that acceptable terminal performance from Berger. But, in the myriad of game I've shot with the A-Max..........I have never had less that acceptable performance. And that racks up to quite a high number.

    The results speak for themselves. Whether soft tissue or bone. High velocity or low. They just flat out kill things as they should be killed. And hit the targets needing to be hit.

    Not much more I can ask for.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yeah, there IS something you can ask for. Ask them to bring back the Amax.

    There is that.

    But, I have a supply.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    And if things go as planned.......next year........I'll have a supply of 168gr .30cal ELD-Match at 2,700+ fps velocity to play with.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    I know that many rounds end with the same result. But, I am exceedingly pleased with the dropping on the spot and complete pass through with the 6.5cal, 140gr A-Max. It continues to afford the accuracy and terminal performance I demand for medium game. I have had less that acceptable terminal performance from Berger. But, in the myriad of game I've shot with the A-Max..........I have never had less that acceptable performance. And that racks up to quite a high number.

    The results speak for themselves. Whether soft tissue or bone. High velocity or low. They just flat out kill things as they should be killed. And hit the targets needing to be hit.

    Not much more I can ask for.

    I'm Glad you pointed this out. I have a buddy that's not a very experienced hunter thinks Bergers are the best thing since the invention of sex and ice cream. I was suspicious that he may have been a victim of the Hype, but wasn't sure. I've seen your evidence on here so my questions are answered. I'm like cpj, bring back the AMax for all calibers.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,986 Senior Member
    Gotta luv dead pigs! Nice pics
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,395 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Yeah, there IS something you can ask for. Ask them to bring back the Amax.
    I spoke with the folks at Hornady and they told me that where they "replaced" an AMax with an ELD, all it was was a change of tip material to the new heatshield. Nothing else supposedly changed
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,123 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I spoke with the folks at Hornady and they told me that where they "replaced" an AMax with an ELD, all it was was a change of tip material to the new heatshield. Nothing else supposedly changed

    I was under the impression there was a slight change to the profile of the bullet as well. The old 6mm Amax was 105 grain. The ELD is 108.

    But the main thing that annoys me is, they supposedly didn't change much on them, but charge nearly $10/box more for the ELD as compared to the Amax. $34/box is a bit much for an "improved" Amax.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 26,090 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    I spoke with the folks at Hornady and they told me that where they "replaced" an AMax with an ELD, all it was was a change of tip material to the new heatshield. Nothing else supposedly changed

    In .30cal 168gr, they changed the ogive and boattail as well.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,395 Senior Member
    Zee wrote: »
    In .30cal 168gr, they changed the ogive and boattail as well.
    and they specifically mentioned that one.

    I picked up a box of the 6.5 123 and the only visual difference I can see is the tip color. I've been meaning to load up 10 of the new ones and 10 of the amaxes and break out the "big" Grendel and see if 26.0 H4895 shoots the same (If I can find where I put the danged ELDs)
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


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