The dangers of believing what you want to hear

Gene LGene L Senior MemberPosts: 10,068 Senior Member
We've seen press manipulation lately, people reporting on what they want to believe rather than on what they don't want to believe, but which is true. This is known as Fake News.

Here is an example from St. Louis. I encountered it on Facebook, where not only was the incident wrongly reported, but was interpreted to suit the political agenda of the reporters. The report was that in St. Louis, cops had broken a window at a restaurant in order to "militarize." That was the conclusion based on a video, a sound of broken glass and a cop walking away. The conclusion was that cops had broken the window to lay the blame on protestors.

Anyway, the Riverfront News later recanted the story. Seems like the restaurant's internal cameras recorded a young man without a shirt who threw a chair through the window three hours before the alleged cop's act.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2017/09/16/did-cop-shatter-culpeppers-window-during-protest-video-raises-questions

There is a great danger to truth and freedom to report lies or half-truths or opinion as truth.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,113 Senior Member
    Yes there is, and likewise there's a huge danger to relying on sites like face***k for news.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    It's gotten to where news is like handloading data. Best to confirm with multiple sources.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,056 Senior Member
    There is a lot of stuff like that out there.
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,702 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    It's gotten to where news is like handloading data. Best to confirm with multiple sources and then err on the conservative side.

    Fify
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  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,484 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    It's gotten to where news is like handloading data. Best to confirm with multiple sources.

    Just consider the published max loads a good place to start, and you'll be ok.

    FYI, I knew a guy who had this philosophy. Last I hear, he had all his body parts.
    Jerry

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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,061 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Yes there is, and likewise there's a huge danger to relying on sites like face***k for news.

    It's hard to believe almost any of the articles on face***k anymore.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,068 Senior Member
    Well, you're right, but the Facebook linked to a Liberal News Rag. So the fault isn't on FF, it's on the Riverfront Times, which lost a helluva lot of credibility. They had an agenda. So be it.

    I hope I don't link or post specious links. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. And I refuse to see myself as a victim. S...t happens, and it's not all directed at me. Some of it affects me, but that's life. I've been coping with this for a long time and learned long ago not to take candy from a stranger. I'm surprised that some here haven't learned this yet.
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,590 Senior Member
    It's hard to believe almost any of the articles on face***k anymore.
    Last I checked with the exception of occasional ads/sponored posts Facebook doesn't post articles. Your "frends" and the groups you follow post articles. If there's a problem with the articles you're seeing you might want to check or reevaluate your feed and what/who you let in or at least who's links you click. That said I cosider fb a way to keep up with what's going on in the lives of my friends and family, definitely not a news source.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,668 Senior Member
    It's called "confirmation bias", and it affects everyone. Everyone interprets facts and phenomenon though the filter of what we already believe.
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    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,061 Senior Member
    Last I checked with the exception of occasional ads/sponored posts Facebook doesn't post articles. Your "frends" and the groups you follow post articles. If there's a problem with the articles you're seeing you might want to check or reevaluate your feed and what/who you let in or at least who's links you click. That said I cosider fb a way to keep up with what's going on in the lives of my friends and family, definitely not a news source.

    I didn't join FB yesterday, and I never said the fake news I was referring to was originated by FB. For your information the BS articles I was referring to are the ones that promote conservative ideas or mock the left. I used to share everything that had a negative connotation about the left, until I started reading the articles themselves. Now until I read them, I generally won't share it unless I feel the information is credible. The one thing I do take issue with FB is their censorship, and I have had friends complain about the same thing. I've had at least one post deleted from my wall because I used a slang term for muslims (muzzies) in it. Really? Now I just call them goatf***ers and they leave me alone......LOL. Their justification for that was "it didn't fit within the safety guidelines of Face***k." First time in 9 years that happened. While I like using FB, I have contempt for their socialist dear leader and their commie policies.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Jack BurtonJack Burton Member Posts: 379 Member
    Like Mark Twain said “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Then again maybe it was Mark Twain, who knows, as I found it on the internet.
    Came for the fishing, stayed for the guns.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,569 Senior Member
    AG Jeff Sessions spoke to local law enforcement officials yesterday in sanctuary city Portland, OR. It mostly concerned the dangers of local LE being prohibited from assisting federal immigration officers with enforcement. Yesterday's evening TV news featured video excerpts including this statement that I was able to locate online in the Portland newspaper. "And Portland is not immune to these problems. Between 2013 and 2015, the city saw an increase in homicides of more than 140 percent. In 2015, Portland Police received more than 180 calls related to gangs, including shootings, stabbings, and assaults – the highest number since they began recording that number nearly 20 years ago, and almost double the count from 2014". The video was followed by a newscaster reporting the Portland police department had "corrected" that statistic to 100% and added that in 2016 the homicide rate dropped 100%. Huh? Unless my fourth grade teacher was an idiot a 100% increase would have doubled the rate in 3 years. Yikes! Conversely a reduction of 100% in 2016 would have resulted in zero homicides last year. Wonderful news! Unfortunately that would have meant the newscasters on the same TV station last year where lying about the dozens of homicides reported and were creating 100% fake news.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,809 Senior Member
    Sgtrock21, it's a pretty safe bet those newscasters weren't math majors and definitely didn't study statistics! :roll2:
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,569 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Sgtrock21, it's a pretty safe bet those newscasters weren't math majors and definitely didn't study statistics! :roll2:
    They obviously just report what they are given to read. I'm appalled that someone in the chain could not realize that a number minus 100% would equal zero. So sad that our education system is now concentrated on political indoctrination as opposed to the basics we grew up with. Reading, writing, and mathematics. The commies lost a battle (cold war) but they are in it for the long haul.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,267 Senior Member
    These are the same idiots who think they're never going to run out of other people's money, right? "Stupid is as stupid does!"

    Jerry
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Sgtrock21, it's a pretty safe bet those newscasters weren't math majors and definitely didn't study statistics! :roll2:

    Yeah and they either didn't study history either or they ate their books!!!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,803 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »
    Yes there is, and likewise there's a huge danger to relying on sites like face***k for news.

    Using F...Book for facts reminds me of the guy in high school that made a book report on a comic book. He didn't tell the teacher. It was funny when the teacher ask, "Now who did you say the author was?"

    :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
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