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LR-308 Pistol Build - Thoughts? Yes/No

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 23,532 Senior Member
I’m considering building a 12.5” LR-308 Pistol and was wondering what you guys thought.

Uses would be travel/hunting.

I have a couple optic choices from Aimpoint to ACOG I could mount on it.

What say ye?
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"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,152 Senior Member
    The Jurassic Park Rule applies here - Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

    These S.P. hunting rigs are all about the one deliberate shot. Autoloading in that arena isn't going to serve any function other than to make the system heavier, poorly balanced, and more complex. The outcome will probably weigh as much or more than a Model Seven or light 700, and will be considerably less functional.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,426 Senior Member
    Yep, too heavy, will weigh about the same as a rifle in the same configuration. AK pistol would be good for traveling or hunting and lighter, PSA offers a couple of ways to do this on an AR platform also.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    I think it is an awesome idea. With a brace and a can? Yes go for it.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,532 Senior Member
    I think it is an awesome idea. With a brace and a can? Yes go for it.

    You get what I’m after.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,490 Senior Member
    I think it is an awesome idea. With a brace and a can? Yes go for it.
    This. It would be a worthwhile project

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 20,861 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    The Jurassic Park Rule applies here - Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
    :win:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,657 Senior Member
    Why not?

    The why list goes on and on
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    How much gain is there over a 12 inch 300 BO?
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    I will soooooooo hold your beer. Do it!!!
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    BigDanS wrote: »
    How much gain is there over a 12 inch 300 BO?
    Considering the price he pays for factory .308 ammo? Significant.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,426 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Considering the price he pays for factory .308 ammo? Significant.

    Oh yeah, duh, forgot about the ammo stream,disregard what I said, like he was going that way anyway:jester:
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,532 Senior Member
    We may have been distracted.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    Jermanator wrote: »
    Considering the price he pays for factory .308 ammo? Significant.


    Number of rounds ever fired from hypothetical pistol doesn't really matter. Not like he would be sending thousands of rounds downrange.
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    Likely a custom load anyway.
  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,231 Senior Member
    How quickly can you chamber a round for a second shot in a SP? That should help decide the realistic use for an auto loading .308 pistol.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    20" .338 Federal bolt action is why not.
    Fixed.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,127 Senior Member
    Your point?
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,152 Senior Member
    I mean, really, what's the functional objective here?

    Such a rig will get off a faster second aimed shot than an XP-100, Contender, Dominator, etc...

    But will it do it any better than a Redhawk or N-frame that isn't dependent on a balanced gas system with the port about a foot closer to the pressure source than it should be, firing a round that needs about another 8" or more of barrel to realize its potential? I think not. The wheelgun leaves behind the bolt carrier, buffer, tube, & spring, to say nothing of a chassis that was engineered as a base for a 9 pound rifle with a 20" barrel. And since the barrel length will be compromising the velocity of the .308 anyway, the added 100-ish grains of a .40+ caliber revolver slug puts the two on nearly even footing, terminally speaking.

    I suppose if the three little pigs were parolee violators that lived in houses, and the big bad wolf was assembling an entry team. . . It makes for a nice Saturday morning cartoon premise, but about as handy as an Acme anvil.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,532 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    I mean, really, what's the functional objective here?

    A compact .308 Win gas gun...................Pistol.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,973 Senior Member
    It appears a .300 BO with a 168 gr bullet in a 12 inch barrel will make about 1700 FPS vs a .308 / 7.62 Nato about 2200 FPS...

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
    Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.... now who's bringing the hot wings? :jester:
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,759 Senior Member
    I think it's a great idea..and will be damned handy if you're hunting and suddenly are about to be overrun by a horde of whatever's..
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,291 Senior Member
    Might as well. It would be at least as handy as an AR 15 pistol, and take bigger game at longer distance. Go for it!

    If I built one, it would be on a left handed bolt action with 15" barrel and a very efficient muzzle brake. And it would be fed by detachable magazine for when you're hunting deer or whatever, and a horde of wharf rats come out of nowhere and charge. A semi auto would be even handier for that scenario. Those things got nasty temperament.
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    For travel, get a KelTec Sub2000. Loltsa fun. Nothing is cooler.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,425 Senior Member
    I would shoot it:jester:
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,031 Senior Member
    I'm not sure of the practicality of the rig. I have an XP-100 in .308 I had built almost 30 years ago. Great fun shooting off the bench and deadly accurate. Unless I can lay prone or have a table to rest it on, it's really a no go taking it hunting. I tried it and with my stands and blinds it was a no go after the first hunt.

    For your pig hunting at night where you can get prone or have a steady rest I think it could be great fun. However to carry and lug around no so much!

    Now Ernie always has a clever rig he carry's for a rest and that could be a game changer! Just more weight to lug around though!

    Be interested to see which direction you go with this.
    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

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  • LMLarsenLMLarsen Senior Member Posts: 8,337 Senior Member
    horselips wrote: »
    For travel, get a KelTec Sub2000. Loltsa fun. Nothing is cooler.

    Apples and lugnuts.
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  • Squawk BoxSquawk Box New Member Posts: 69 Member
    I like cannons myself, and look at how many there are now, big old guns like the S&W .460. If you can afford it and have the time, maybe you should build your single shot.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,425 Senior Member
    He already has a single-shot 308 Winchester specialty pistol.
    It shoots pretty good too.
    I was privileged to kill a critter some time ago.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFafJpKGCMs&index=43&list=FLfEoqqK-q7iARmKwk742NZg&t=2s
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,425 Senior Member
    Squawk Box wrote: »
    I like cannons myself, and look at how many there are now, big old guns like the S&W .460. If you can afford it and have the time, maybe you should build your single shot.

    Welcome!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Farm Boy DeuceFarm Boy Deuce Senior Member Posts: 6,083 Senior Member
    I would shoot it:jester:

    The SP man has spoken. Go forth and make it happen.
    I am afraid we forget sometime that the basic and simple things brings us the most pleasure.
    Dad 5-31-13
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