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CaliFFL, Alphasig, Gene, and anybody else, what say ye?

CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior MemberPosts: 12,635 Senior Member
https://www.officer.com/command-hq/article/20978287/the-lure-of-easy-money?utm_source=Officer.com+Newsday+E-Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CPS171118002&o_eid=7111J7686190A5B&rdx.ident%5Bpull%5D=omeda%7C7111J7686190A5B

From an LEO's perspective, this works well, but there was no mention of the ACLU's of the world complaining in the article, so I am not sure about unintended consequences. I will say the legislators raised some good questions.
I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11

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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    I think if you withhold state, federal and any other public assistance you’d be casting a much bigger net... just a thought...

    WORD.
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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    This is just another asset forfeiture scheme on people without a criminal conviction.

    I agree with Wambli about withholding assistance funds, but the money in question isn’t assistance...it’s overpaid taxes.










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    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,398 Senior Member
    Its not asset forfeiture. When you take care of the warrant the money is released.

    However, it is a unlawful taking. It isnt the states money to hold. Unless they are paying interest, I have a problem with it.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    Its not asset forfeiture. When you take care of the warrant the money is released.

    However, it is a unlawful taking. It isnt the states money to hold. Unless they are paying interest, I have a problem with it.


    Not technically asset forfeiture, but the same ballpark. Withholding assets without conviction ensures many people cannot hire legal representation. This practice increases convictions and plea deals.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,635 Senior Member
    CaliFFL wrote: »
    Not technically asset forfeiture, but the same ballpark. Withholding assets without conviction ensures many people cannot hire legal representation. This practice increases convictions and plea deals.

    Good point.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    It is state taxes, so it is probably over paid unless Maryland has their own EIC.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    cpj wrote: »
    Overpaid taxes or "earned income credit"?

    Like Jerm mentioned, it's state taxes so likely not EIC.

    Crystal ball...If states continue this with "success", the police in states without state taxes will lobby the same for federal returns. If the warrant isn't cleared in a pre-determined amout of time, the money is forfeit to the state.
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    Just another bunch of bureaucratic gut bags chipping away some more at the 4th and 5th Amendments. Now I'm sure SOMEBODY will say, "But,but, but the Supreme Court/state supreme court said it was legal and constitutional." Yeah, right, like the NFA 1934, GCA 1968, and FOPA 1986 were all Constitutional because a bunch of Progressive gut bag judges and legislators said it was constitutional all the while wiping their collective filthy anuses with the Constitutions of the U.S. and their State. Might as well seize their bank accounts, if they have one, to complete the circle. Innocent until proven guilty is a sick joke bandied about by legislators and judges who pass this kind of filth. Read the 4th and 5th Amendments again and judge this new 'tool of so called law enforcement' accordingly.
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