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Full confiscation: What would you do?

FFLshooterFFLshooter MemberPosts: 1,057 Senior Member
I hope to God that the current events will never lead to any form of gun ban or outright confiscation, but I’m curious what you folks would do if such a thing ever happened. Whether you have a registered gun that Uncle Sam knows you have or you milled out your own lower, you have few portions, one of which would be lying and saying you know longer own it/them and become a criminal or you turn it over. I honestly don’t know exactly what i would do in that predicament especially owning a gunstore which is starting to scare me with these turbulent times. Many say that the legal gun owners would go to war with the feds, but that would take cooperation amongst ALL gun owners to even be feasible.
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    It depends on the consequences of noncompliance and the tangible reality of enforcement of said. I know what items have paper and what ones don't.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    That would give the old phrase "I've got a shotgun, a shovel, and 100 acres" a whole other meaning- - - - -which, in fact, I really do! As long as they make PVC pipe, grease, and a place to dig a hole, I refuse to be disarmed!
    Jerry
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    early wrote: »
    It depends on the consequences of noncompliance and the tangible reality of enforcement of said. I know what items have paper and what ones don't.
    I’m taking a stab that non compliance would be a felony charge, maybe even federal.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,667 Senior Member
    FFLshooter wrote: »
    I’m taking a stab that non compliance would be a felony charge, maybe even federal.

    There would be one HELL of a lot of instant felons then.

    But I won't disclose on the Internet what I would do - hypothetically or otherwise...
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  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    Could they effectively prove noncompliance???
    Or would throwing the dogs a few bones pacify them??? Felony for possession in a democratic republic is very hard for me to imagine.

    I can't imagine there ever being enough resources for collection. Compelling the citizenry to voluntarily deliver would be the only way.
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The Brits tried confiscation at Lexington and Concord- - - - -Like Dr. Phil says- - - - -"How did that work out for ya?"
    Jerry
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    What would I do? Take note of what is to be confiscated. I have both 8" and 12" post hole augers for my tractor post hole digger. I know where to buy PVC pipe and end caps in bulk. And where I live I also know that the confiscation would go over like a big whole kernel studded turd in a punch bowl. The confiscators wouldn't fare too well.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,096 Senior Member
    zorba wrote: »

    But I won't disclose on the Internet what I would do - hypothetically or otherwise...
    :that: :agree: :win:
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • earlyearly Senior Member Posts: 4,950 Senior Member
    How can a government that can't stop foreign powers from meddling in our elections, hacking our corporations, control our borders, collect due income tax, prevent entitlement fraud, etc....., effectively administer firearms confiscation from a citizenry that has more guns than Siberia has snow?
    My thoughts are generally clear. My typing, not so much.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    They claim it's not possible to round up 15 million illegal aliens, how they going to find over 300 million guns? What would suck is you wouldn't be able to use them any more.
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,671 Senior Member
    I just wonder if 2018 is going to be the year that part of the Constitution gets trashed by the Democrats and some Republicans. From what I have seen on the news, there's going to be a HUGE push for gun control this year.
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  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,960 Senior Member
    So how would this work if someone had guns acquired before GCA 68 ??

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • NomadacNomadac Senior Member Posts: 902 Senior Member
    If confiscation were started it would be like the coming of the Second Civil War. It is estimated there are 250-300 million firearms out there and million of gun owners and how many do you think would surrender their firearms?
    The Government can't stop Drugs so how are they going to stop or confiscate firearms when millions are not registered of there is a record of?

    The fallacy to to stopping School Shootings with guns, if someone intent on mass killing is they can use bombs, vehicles to kill like the terrorists have done in Europe, etc.
    There are multitude methods for killing large numbers, so how can L.E. prevent a deranged person from committing these acts?
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,155 Senior Member
    Nomadac wrote: »
    The Government can't stop Drugs so how are they going to stop or confiscate firearms when millions are not registered of there is a record of?

    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    That would give the old phrase "I've got a shotgun, a shovel, and 100 acres" a whole other meaning- - - - -which, in fact, I really do! As long as they make PVC pipe, grease, and a place to dig a hole, I refuse to be disarmed!
    Jerry

    You just blew my plan. Oh well, I figure 60 or so feet of 8" PVC, rent the auger drill from one of our tool renter places and bury them. I would still keep something hidden atop the ground for protection, but all the long guns and half the hand guns would get buried. There is the possibility that in places like Texas this could promote a secession from the Union. At the very least I don't think it would be strictly enforced here.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    That would give the old phrase "I've got a shotgun, a shovel, and 100 acres" a whole other meaning- - - - -which, in fact, I really do! As long as they make PVC pipe, grease, and a place to dig a hole, I refuse to be disarmed!
    Jerry

    Just dig a poo load of extra holes, like maybe 1,000 extra holes, and put PVC pipes filled with scrap metal in them for them to find with metal detectors. It would be a for real play on the movie 'Holes'. :roll2:
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  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,742 Senior Member
    I suppose that if I owned any firearms, an effort at confiscation would be of concern to me.


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  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,281 Senior Member
    Move to Texas or Oklahoma or Alabama or wherever, after secession.
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,952 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    Move to Texas or Oklahoma or Alabama or wherever, after secession.

    Come on over. We'll make room.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,096 Senior Member
    104RFAST wrote: »
    Move to Texas or Oklahoma or Alabama or wherever, after secession.
    HOPEFULLY I won't have to move
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,096 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska wrote: »
    That's about all...
    I see another Mag capacity ban, potentially on the horizon.

    All of the lamestream media have MADE SURE to mention his AR15 and 30 round magazines in pretty much any and all reports about the shooting. So I can see them trying to convince the sheeple that both are evil, so if they can't get their ultimate goal of banning the AR, they can castrate them back to 10 rounders (or less)
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    I know it doesn't hold water but during the dark ages, 2008-2016, several states, AL included wrote bills saying something like no unconstitutional law concerning the 2nd amendment will be upheld in the state.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    I honestly don’t see a full on confiscation coming, but what would be a real blow if they somehow banned AR’s is the fact that if you kept yours and used it to defend yourself or property as we can now with them legally, you’d be up creek without a paddle with the feds. Ain’t no fun in keeping something that you can’t use. Again, I doubt it’ll come to that but they keep eroding our rights a little at a time and some folks don’t realize it because they think it’s a compromise.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    Beginning to look like a pump action AR might be a future modification. And it would be easy to do, too. And has been done. Troy builds one. Since it's no longer an 'evil' semi auto, it wouldn't/shouldn't receive any unwanted attention.
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  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Beginning to look like a pump action AR might be a future modification. And it would be easy to do, too. And has been done. Troy builds one. Since it's no longer an 'evil' semi auto, it wouldn't/shouldn't receive any unwanted attention.
    Until some psychotic idiot who’s parents have their heads buried in their electronics too much to see that they are raising the next mass murderer uses it to kill a bunch of people. Then they’ll want them banned too.
  • rberglofrberglof Senior Member Posts: 2,659 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Beginning to look like a pump action AR might be a future modification. And it would be easy to do, too. And has been done. Troy builds one. Since it's no longer an 'evil' semi auto, it wouldn't/shouldn't receive any unwanted attention.

    I have a nice california legal pump AK (par1)
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,969 Senior Member
    California has already accomplished this with ARs...in sort of a back door kinda way.

    Forcing us to register them as assault weapons and made it illegal to transfer ownership to anyone in the state. My wife and I will register as joint owners, so either of us can keep it when the other passes. When we are both gone, it cannot be willed to our son if he still lives in CA, so he will have to either get it to his cousin in Nevada (providing they are still legal to own there) or turn it into to local law enforcement.

    Side note: Wife and I went into Big 5 after lunch to get some ammo for her new lever gun. They had to look for a staff member who was certified to handle ammo before they could sell it to us. Yup, they had a sign on the door displaying this new policy.

    Our local Big 5 just quit selling ammo, the selves are bare. Our local Wal-Mart doesn't give a flyin' rat a**. :rotflmao:


    If they ban AR's, I'll just set aside my Mini 14 as the go-to HD rifle. I suspect there will be a lot of stolen firearm reports filled out after a ban... and farm equipment rentals... and container sales... and.......etc. Just Speculating. :jester:

    Might be time to take a second look at a HighPoint. If they confiscate that, I really wouldn't care! :spittingcoffee:
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    Spk wrote: »
    Might be time to take a second look at a HighPoint. If they confiscate that, I really wouldn't care! :spittingcoffee:

    I have one of the HI Point 9mm carbines. It's ugly as homemade sin, like AK ugly, but it's never failed to feed and fire any 9mm ammo I shove in the magazine! :tooth: VERY minute of torso at 50 yards, too. It's so ugly a hound dog would sniff it growl at it, then piss on it, just for giggles! :roll2:
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,096 Senior Member
    Spk wrote: »
    Our local Big 5 just quit selling ammo, the selves are bare. Our local Wal-Mart doesn't give a flyin' rat a**. :rotflmao:


    If they ban AR's, I'll just set aside my Mini 14 as the go-to HD rifle. I suspect there will be a lot of stolen firearm reports filled out after a ban... and farm equipment rentals... and container sales... and.......etc. Just Speculating. :jester:

    Might be time to take a second look at a HighPoint. If they confiscate that, I really wouldn't care! :spittingcoffee:
    You forgot all the folks who will be doing some plumbing repair with some really large diameter PVC pipe.

    And one of those pocket handwarmers will reduce the chance of oxidation, because it will remove most, if not all, of the oxygen from a sealed container
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • roadkingroadking Senior Member Posts: 3,056 Senior Member
    knitepoet wrote: »
    You forgot all the folks who will be doing some plumbing repair with some really large diameter PVC pipe.

    And one of those pocket handwarmers will reduce the chance of oxidation, because it will remove most, if not all, of the oxygen from a sealed container

    I wondered about that...good to know.
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