Pocahontas Won't Run in 2020

bisleybisley Senior MemberPosts: 10,112 Senior Member
Elizabeth Warren, that is.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/11/warren-no-to-white-house-bid-dna-test-says-heritage-part-who-am.html

I only recently found out that she was from OK originally, and it reminded me of my Grandpa, who was 1/4 Choctaw, and had some very pronounced Indian features - high cheekbones, darkish complexion, burned red by the sun, and smooth, straight, shiny black hair.

Back in the late 60's or early 70's, Oklahoma offered a brick house and two acres of land to any person of a certain age that could prove their Indian heritage. It was tricky, because many had no documentary proof, but surprisingly, there were a lot of blond-haired, blue-eyed people, and many others with no Indian features, who did qualify. Some of my cousins, his grand-children, tried to get him to apply. His own kids (our fathers and mothers) just laughed at the idea. Anyway, he declined, saying that the government owed him nothing and he owed them nothing - the end.

Anyway, I wondered if that might have been an incident from her youth that set her on the path to claiming Indian heritage.

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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,720 Senior Member
    Maybe Stormy Daniels will launch a bid.🎭
  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 38,295 Senior Member
    I wish my dumbass inlaws would have claimed all the Indian benefits they could. I wouldn't have had to pay for an unused college education. 
    "I'm here for the guns, hunting, and skirt wearing men."
    Zee
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,074 Senior Member
    bisley said:


    Anyway, I wondered if that might have been an incident from her youth that set her on the path to claiming Indian heritage.
    There was a time, in the late 70s/early 80s that in order to claim "minority status" with the U.S. government, all one needed to do was file paperwork with EEO to that effect...no proof needed....(which I am sure what happened with Fauxcahontas).....this opened all kinds of doors...preference points for hiring, school admissions, etc...this also resulted in (where I worked at any rate) several obviously Nordic gals ( huge twins known as " The Viking Sisters)  suddenly becoming "native Americans". Things have changed some in places...when my wife applied for her free hunting license in Kansas, she had to provide evidence of her blood quantum through her tribe to get it...


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  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,000 Senior Member
    I just read a headline saying that Warren refused to take a DNA test to prove her claim.  She says that she NEVER used her "Indian" ancestry for any advantage, in the workplace or politics.  I seriously doubt that claim.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,662 Senior Member
    She supposedly used it for gaining admittance to "Haavaad" as a disadvantaged minority.
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,420 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    bisley said:


    Anyway, I wondered if that might have been an incident from her youth that set her on the path to claiming Indian heritage.
    There was a time, in the late 70s/early 80s that in order to claim "minority status" with the U.S. government, all one needed to do was file paperwork with EEO to that effect...no proof needed....(which I am sure what happened with Fauxcahontas).....this opened all kinds of doors...preference points for hiring, school admissions, etc...this also resulted in (where I worked at any rate) several obviously Nordic gals ( huge twins known as " The Viking Sisters)  suddenly becoming "native Americans". Things have changed some in places...when my wife applied for her free hunting license in Kansas, she had to provide evidence of her blood quantum through her tribe to get it...



    Sorry. This "improved" forum SUCKS!!! so bad I am unable to respond with a quote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,420 Senior Member
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 12,722 Senior Member
    sgtrock21 said:

    Sorry. This "improved" forum SUCKS!!! so bad I am unable to respond with a quote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So what did you just do?
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,420 Senior Member
    sgtrock21 said:

    Sorry. This "improved" forum SUCKS!!! so bad I am unable to respond with a quote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So what did you just do?

    Something in Jayhawker's post reminded me of a similar experience. I copied 3 words: The Viking Sisters from his post and clicked quote. I pasted the 3 words then typed an intro to my example. So far so good. My example was saved in MS Word. When I attempted to paste it that not only failed but what I had typed was deleted. The original 3 words I had pasted remained. I tried once more with the same results. I tried edit hoping I could cancel and start over but found no cancel or delete post option. I recall another member having everything they had typed in their post deleted when they edited one word.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,420 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    bisley said:


    Anyway, I wondered if that might have been an incident from her youth that set her on the path to claiming Indian heritage.
    There was a time, in the late 70s/early 80s that in order to claim "minority status" with the U.S. government, all one needed to do was file paperwork with EEO to that effect...no proof needed....(which I am sure what happened with Fauxcahontas).....this opened all kinds of doors...preference points for hiring, school admissions, etc...this also resulted in (where I worked at any rate) several obviously Nordic gals ( huge twins known as " The Viking Sisters)  suddenly becoming "native Americans". Things have changed some in places...when my wife applied for her free hunting license in Kansas, she had to provide evidence of her blood quantum through her tribe to get it...


    You "Viking Sisters" reminded me of something that happened when I was a Flight Operations Sergeant.

    One of my Flight Operations Specialists asked me for clarification of the term "African American". She was born in Johannesburg South Africa. She immigrated with her family to the USA at the age of 10. She was 15  when her parents became naturalized citizens. She met all the qualifications, swore the Oath of Allegiance, joined the military, and became one too at the age of 18. She was applying to a local university. When completing her application she checked the African American box. When the admissions clerk reviewed it for completeness and accuracy they "angrily" crossed out African American and checked White. I'm guessing her blonde hair and blue eyes being the reason. I attempted explaining affirmative action and the reason for all those choices being to ensure the school was meeting the appropriate racial and ethnic quotas. She asked: "How can a U.S. citizen born in Africa not be an African American and a Black American who had never been to Africa be an African American"? I had no logical answer.

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,074 Senior Member
    Our EEO officer at work was a very outspoken "African American" woman....and quite the community activist to boot.
    I had the opportunity to introduce her to a friend of mine who was an African American  college professor from South Africa....the shock at seeing this blonde haired, blue eyed woman was palpable.  She also got a pretty interesting history lesson in the ensuing conversation when she claimed my friend couldn't possibly be African American.
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 14,252 Senior Member
    I find it funny. They will call a black Englishman an African American. The term seems rather ignorant and Americentrist to me.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,112 Senior Member
    So, is Negro (black, in several languages) not accurate and acceptable? MLK and Malcolm X didn't think so.

    I used to eat lunch nearly every day (at work) with a black guy about my same age, because he was a great guy, and we communicated well and had lots of laughs together. We talked about all manner of political subjects, and he was every bit as conservative as I was. I always said 'black guy' because it seemed the least offensive of all ways to label a person by race, on the few occasions that it was pertinent to our conversation, and he used it also (black or white). Over several years, 'African-American' began to replace 'black guy' as the politically correct way to identify race. Naturally, I didn't even think about it till it came up in conversation one day. So, I asked him what he preferred. He said,"My name is Ricky, but you can call me anything you want...as long as you're smiling."
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,112 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    So, is **** (black, in several languages) not accurate and acceptable? MLK and Malcolm X didn't think so.
    I guess not, since the PC police website edited it out.
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