When I started to type my comment I was immediately redirected to a anti gun news article!!! Hacked??? I had to go to my home page and work my way back. There were numerous counter protests today. I read this NYT's article. I'm sure they only reported it because some counter protesters were OMG "armed".
EDIT: Never mind that - I initially thought that comment was directed to sgtrock.
Personally. I would not go armed to a counter protest. If I expected something more than minor scuffling, I would stay home, since we are not yet involved in a full-blown revolution.
My 17 YO daughter was grilling me about this last night. She wants to be safe at school and thinks this movement is a step in the right direction. She doesn't want guns banned, but thinks some new law could somehow prevent a school shooting. I asked the obvious questions, discussed unintended consequences, and pointed out the multiple failures perpetrated by government officials. She listened to me and gave some decent counterpoints.
Talk to your kids. Ask them what they think. This starts at home.
My 15 year old daughter was actually involved early on in organizing a walkout on 4/20 to protest "school safety" in general. After watching it go from her and a few students doing genuine grass roots activism to having it hijacked by administrators and faculty, she decided to not be part of it anymore. Then there was the local journalist that took her comment advocating a stronger mental health safety net and turning it into sounding like she expressed desire to have mental health screenings as part of a background check.
After she discovered the extent of the manipulation involved-- going from "school safety" (which I can assume all of us agree on in principle) to a call for gun control, and realizing that they aren't the same thing, she wants no part in it.
It was a good experience for her. She learned quite a bit about not just her 2A rights, but 1A and lots of other rights that can be trampled over so easily.
Good for your daughter. Having an open mind and standing up for a belief is good. Realizing when you and your wirds are manipulated to support someone elses agenda is plain old smart and intelligent thinking. Unfortunately there is little to be done to stop administrators and the media.
Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
Watching Chris Wallace on Fox. He's really out of his sheep's clothing right now. He's going full tilt libtard. He needs to go get a job with CNN. He's got some of these anti gun kids on his show and he's throwing them soft balls and there's no fair and balanced. Nobody representing the pro gun side. What is happening to Fox?
Daddy, what's an enabler?
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
It is one thing to run for student council, entirely another in the real world. They are about 10 minutes into their allotted 15 minutes. You can't sustain that level of idiocy for much longer. Angry teenagers making demands isn't going to resonate very well with the public at large-- while it may give affirmation to the ones leaning that way anyhow, I doubt anyone else has been moved.
Sadly, these poor kids had to endure some turd going on a murder rampage at their school, but now they have become someone's useful idiots.
My 17 YO daughter was grilling me about this last night. She wants to be safe at school and thinks this movement is a step in the right direction. She doesn't want guns banned, but thinks some new law could somehow prevent a school shooting. I asked the obvious questions, discussed unintended consequences, and pointed out the multiple failures perpetrated by government officials. She listened to me and gave some decent counterpoints.
Talk to your kids. Ask them what they think. This starts at home.
Not knowing your real situation as far as public education in your area goes, but it sounds like your daughter is getting a somewhat healthy dose of liberal brainwashing in the school system there, unfortunately. I hope she doesn't end up in one of those universities we all hear about, where talk of socialism is the norm.
Yeah, talking to your kids about their concerns about getting shot while cowering behind a desk is evidence of liberal brainwashing.
A quote from her last night: "If I can't carry at school, it's the adults' duty to protect me. The adults are failing." Not exactly a liberal opinion.
She starts college in the fall. She said my LCP is going with her.
The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.
True but the media can bit and parcel whats seen, and spin, yarn, and put back ground music to it all. There by selling anything they want to the vegetating masses hungry for consumption of all the facts a 90 second sound bite can pack.
My 17 YO daughter was grilling me about this last night. She wants to be safe at school and thinks this movement is a step in the right direction. She doesn't want guns banned, but thinks some new law could somehow prevent a school shooting. I asked the obvious questions, discussed unintended consequences, and pointed out the multiple failures perpetrated by government officials. She listened to me and gave some decent counterpoints.
Talk to your kids. Ask them what they think. This starts at home.
My 15 year old daughter was actually involved early on in organizing a walkout on 4/20 to protest "school safety" in general. After watching it go from her and a few students doing genuine grass roots activism to having it hijacked by administrators and faculty, she decided to not be part of it anymore. Then there was the local journalist that took her comment advocating a stronger mental health safety net and turning it into sounding like she expressed desire to have mental health screenings as part of a background check.
After she discovered the extent of the manipulation involved-- going from "school safety" (which I can assume all of us agree on in principle) to a call for gun control, and realizing that they aren't the same thing, she wants no part in it.
It was a good experience for her. She learned quite a bit about not just her 2A rights, but 1A and lots of other rights that can be trampled over so easily.
My daughter discussed some of the same issues. The kids (on TV, not locally) yelling kill the NRA, ban all guns, and my daughter's favorite, "I wish guns were regulated as much as my body". She mentioned this type of crap only shows how little the marchers know about gun laws.
The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.
When I started to type my comment I was immediately redirected to a anti gun news article!!! Hacked??? I had to go to my home page and work my way back. There were numerous counter protests today. I read this NYT's article. I'm sure they only reported it because some counter protesters were OMG "armed".
Judging by the way conservatives are treated at left-wing rallies, going there unarmed is foolhardy.
Wait didn't you just post about how you antagonized a bunch of liberals protesting just the other day?
Wait, wait. So he can’t antagonize them back, but they can antagonize him and any other poor soul that gets stuck at a relight having to listen to their **** under the guise of “protest”?
Wait didn't you just post about how you antagonized a bunch of liberals protesting just the other day?
It was yesterday. More evidence you don't read before responding. What, I can't respond in kind to a bunch of loons marching in the street about a subject I'm viscerally opposed to? For what it's worth, I have a right to free speech too. What I was referring to was in my OP about going armed to a left-wing demonstration is because if conservatives counter-demonstrate they get physically attacked by these commie bastards. No comparison as usual from you.
Not knowing your real situation as far as public education in your area goes, but it sounds like your daughter is getting a somewhat healthy dose of liberal brainwashing in the school system there, unfortunately. I hope she doesn't end up in one of those universities we all hear about, where talk of socialism is the norm.
If you are that concerned a child is subject to liberal and conservative brainwashing and indoctrination in the first place (two sides of the same tyrannical coin), the kid is probably an idiot and college is a waste of time and money.
Not knowing your real situation as far as public education in your area goes, but it sounds like your daughter is getting a somewhat healthy dose of liberal brainwashing in the school system there, unfortunately. I hope she doesn't end up in one of those universities we all hear about, where talk of socialism is the norm.
If you are that concerned a child is subject to liberal and conservative brainwashing and indoctrination in the first place (two sides of the same tyrannical coin), the kid is probably an idiot and college is a waste of time and money.
When I started to type my comment I was immediately redirected to a anti gun news article!!! Hacked??? I had to go to my home page and work my way back. There were numerous counter protests today. I read this NYT's article. I'm sure they only reported it because some counter protesters were OMG "armed".
That little fool Hogg is griping about the clear backpacks and I.D. cards the school is now requiring is infringing on his 1st Amendment rights of free speech while he's attacking the right of the people to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. He's more confused than a baby at a topless bar.
Or more confused than a blind lesbian in a fish market.
It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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He is not confused at all. As the liberal press does, he uses and bends the first amendment to meet his needs. I think everyone but him and his friends are being used for a political agenda.
Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
Watching Chris Wallace on Fox. He's really out of his sheep's clothing right now. He's going full tilt libtard. He needs to go get a job with CNN. He's got some of these anti gun kids on his show and he's throwing them soft balls and there's no fair and balanced. Nobody representing the pro gun side. What is happening to Fox?
Chris Wallace is another of Fox's token libertards, just like Juan Williams.
Chris Wallace can eat my shorts. I refuse to watch his liberal drivel anymore.. On another note anti-gunners are ramping up the fight. In today's Orlando Slantinal, it was announced the anti-gunners are gearing up to add a constitutional amendment to Florida law banning "assault-weapons" and the like on the 2020 ballot. It would need 60% of the votes to pass.
The liberals will probably get the lynch mob back together and "hang Chad"- - - - -they almost got Gore elected that way! "Florida- - - - -the gang that couldn't vote straight!"
Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt! ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
Those weren't Floridians who couldn't vote straight. It was all the Yankees who retired, moved to South Florida and brought all their liberal ideology with them. True Floridians are pretty rare in the precincts that had the "hanging chad" issues.
Those weren't Floridians who couldn't vote straight. It was all the Yankees who retired, moved to South Florida and brought all their liberal ideology with them. True Floridians are pretty rare in the precincts that had the "hanging chad" issues.
They are very rare down here. Heck half the people here cant vote.
Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
Those weren't Floridians who couldn't vote straight. It was all the Yankees who retired, moved to South Florida and brought all their liberal ideology with them. True Floridians are pretty rare in the precincts that had the "hanging chad" issues.
Your premise is correct, but I was born and raised in Noo Yawk and I'm no liberal. Once you get 30-50 miles outside NY City the politics change dramatically. I was fortunate to be living in one of two counties that were predominantly Republican on Long Island. You go north of NY City and get into the farms and mountainous areas of New York State and it's a totally different environment, except for the upstate cities like Albany, Rochester, Buffalo and areas like that.
I didn't say everybody who moved down here from up North was a liberal, but election results in those counties pretty much prove my point about the current population mix. I think that in pretty much any state the further out of the city you get, the more conservative the politics get.
Make_My_Day you might find this entertaining. Both of my parents were born and raised in Florida. My Florida roots go back prior to 1872 on my mom's mother's side. My dad's father's family moved to Florida from Georgia when he was about 8 years old. My dad's mother was from Alabama. So you see how deep my roots are in the South. My mom's father was from Long Island.......
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EDIT: Never mind that - I initially thought that comment was directed to sgtrock.
Personally. I would not go armed to a counter protest. If I expected something more than minor scuffling, I would stay home, since we are not yet involved in a full-blown revolution.
After she discovered the extent of the manipulation involved-- going from "school safety" (which I can assume all of us agree on in principle) to a call for gun control, and realizing that they aren't the same thing, she wants no part in it.
It was a good experience for her. She learned quite a bit about not just her 2A rights, but 1A and lots of other rights that can be trampled over so easily.
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Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
Sadly, these poor kids had to endure some turd going on a murder rampage at their school, but now they have become someone's useful idiots.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Yeah, talking to your kids about their concerns about getting shot while cowering behind a desk is evidence of liberal brainwashing.
A quote from her last night: "If I can't carry at school, it's the adults' duty to protect me. The adults are failing." Not exactly a liberal opinion.
She starts college in the fall. She said my LCP is going with her.
Ayn Rand
My daughter discussed some of the same issues. The kids (on TV, not locally) yelling kill the NRA, ban all guns, and my daughter's favorite, "I wish guns were regulated as much as my body". She mentioned this type of crap only shows how little the marchers know about gun laws.
Ayn Rand
Errr...wasn't that somebody else?
Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
I think everyone but him and his friends are being used for a political agenda.
ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite