Town votes to ban "Assault Rifles"

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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,987 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    My city has sued the state to be able to outlaw ARs. As it stands if they do, the govenor can relieve the mayor and all city officials that allow it and fine the 5000 bucks
    I already wrote a very polite letter to each involved and the governor 
    I think I heard part of a report about this on the radio. I got the impression that the State was standing on legal granite, and the city was going to be pounding sand. Of course Im not a lawyer, and I did miss some of the report.
    Unless things drastically change, you are correct.  It seems some cities and towns are thumbing their nose at state and federal law and doing whatever they please.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 23,281 Senior Member
    Any taking of private property without just compensation is going to put those Richard Craniums on some really shaky legal quicksand. There is ample evidence that this law is not going to fly on that basis alone. Just has to be taken up by the owners of the firearms owners in question and pushed hard. Local, state, and federal governments can't legally take without just compensation, unless the sheeple roll over and comply.
    I may be a Deplorable, but at least I'm not a Liberal!!!



  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,910 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Unless things drastically change, you are correct.  It seems some cities and towns are thumbing their nose at state and federal law and doing whatever they please.
    You mean like Sanctuary Cities?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    My Karma ran over your Dogma!
  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,232 Senior Member
    Me thinks this is just the beginning. It is fashionable now for
    the "useful idiots" at the local level to display their progressive
    credentials and get their commie card punched. At some point
    this will not go over well with the peasants and the pitchforks
    will come out. The "tree of liberty" thing is approaching rapidly,
    the up coming election could be decisive  
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,717 Senior Member
    Thismornings news (ABC) is givining the impression that town halls across the country are taking on policies of stricter gun control. This is so obviously exaggerated as easily seen by the repetitious limited angle frames of the same small groups that I feel justified calling it blatantly false.

    Also this and other news sources I frequent have been painting a picture of Republicans achieving ever greater control of State and local governments for years. Seems to fly in the face of town halls all across the country discussing stricter gun control.

    Not all of this is politics bias. Hysteria sells.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,910 Senior Member
    Which is why I ignore mainstream news...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    My Karma ran over your Dogma!
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,420 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    You are confused...FFL dealers are required to keep every 4473 forever...when the business closes, the "bound book(s)" are to be sent to BATF...

    I am no longer confused. Thank you. 50 years ago when we were afraid of the 4473 being a backdoor registration scheme we were assured the forms were required to be destroyed after 90 days. So that was 100% propaganda. 
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 4,250 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Diver43 said:
    My city has sued the state to be able to outlaw ARs. As it stands if they do, the govenor can relieve the mayor and all city officials that allow it and fine the 5000 bucks
    I already wrote a very polite letter to each involved and the governor 
    I think I heard part of a report about this on the radio. I got the impression that the State was standing on legal granite, and the city was going to be pounding sand. Of course Im not a lawyer, and I did miss some of the report.
    Unless things drastically change, you are correct.  It seems some cities and towns are thumbing their nose at state and federal law and doing whatever they please.

    My nearest town (Sandpoint, ID) is no exception. They tried to ban open carry because supposedly OC frightens the tourists. Sandpoint has forced residents to install sidewalks in front of their homes, banned "hands on" cell phone usage, and tried to ban all drive thru businesses. This is a town of 7000. I cannot vote in the elections, so make it very clear to the mayor and council where I spend my money. 
    The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

    Ayn Rand
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 23,281 Senior Member
    A lawsuit has been filed on the assault weapons ban in Deerfield. Don't know where/how it will go given state law in a decidedly Socialist state, though.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/deerfield/news/ct-dfr-assault-weapon-ban-lawsuit-tl-0412-story.html

    I may be a Deplorable, but at least I'm not a Liberal!!!



  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,141 Senior Member

    I've heard of more than one instance where bound books and 4473's from closed gun shops arrived at ATF after being stored a little too close to a leaky car battery.  Sulfuric acid and paper don't gee-haw too well together!

    Jerry


    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,600 Senior Member
    Teach said:

    I've heard of more than one instance where bound books and 4473's from closed gun shops arrived at ATF after being stored a little too close to a leaky car battery.  Sulfuric acid and paper don't gee-haw too well together!

    Jerry


    I'm quite sure this is a common occurrence.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • centermass556centermass556 Senior Member Posts: 3,488 Senior Member
    Talking about the 4473's. Do you remember one of the first things the Russians did in Red Dawn. And that movie was written under a much different political climate for gun control.
    "To have really lived, you must have almost died. To those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 2,540 Senior Member
    It makes life interesting when you wake up wondering what new laws you are going to be breaking without even knowing it. ( it doesn't stop me from wanting to wake up )
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 23,281 Senior Member
    Teach said:

    I've heard of more than one instance where bound books and 4473's from closed gun shops arrived at ATF after being stored a little too close to a leaky car battery.  Sulfuric acid and paper don't gee-haw too well together!

    Jerry


    Back during Bill Clinton's 8 years with Janet Reno as AG, I remember a lot of rumors about bound books meeting some strange circumstances. Clinton and Gore forced a LOT of dealers out of business during that time with rules changes, and 'stuff happened' to bound books that got sent in to the ATF regional offices.
    And at around the same time frame ATF got busted for making a database of ALL those bound books to show gun ownership. It wasn't the first time, nor the last time this has happened, either.
    I may be a Deplorable, but at least I'm not a Liberal!!!



  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,717 Senior Member
    edited April 9 #46
    I bought a shotgun at a show from a dealer/shop owner years ago. He said he habitually did some type of Houdini trick with the 4473 well I was filling it out.

    I remember that, but not what he said he did with them. CRS👴
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 4,250 Senior Member
    Talking about the 4473's. Do you remember one of the first things the Russians did in Red Dawn. And that movie was written under a much different political climate for gun control.

    Yep. They even called the form "4473" in the movie. 
    The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

    Ayn Rand
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,072 Senior Member
    The Director, John Milius, was an active member of the gun culture
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
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