Warning Will Robinson! Danger! Danger! California splitting into three states

tennmike

IF California is allowed to split into three states, THEN THAT WOULD ADD 4 MORE SENATORS FROM THAT LIBERAL LA LA LAND! Therein lies the ugly side of their splitting into three states. As planned, there will be enough huge cities in each new state to keep the states extremely liberal/progressive. The balance in the Senate, already a freakin' mess, would get more imbalanced. And more reps in the House would make it even worse.

Old Ron

When will people out there wise up ? There endless stupid ideas jut make me want to take a nap !

Diver43

Their ideas aren't all stupid.  This one would allow one state to triple its representation.

earlyagain

Extreme redistricting???

Jayhawker

As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot

Old Ron

Jayhawker said:

As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot

We can only hope.

tennmike

Jayhawker said:

As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot

And they are outnumbered by the granola munchin' progressolibs that ran the state into the ground. Instead of one huge socialist basket case there would be THREE GRADE A EXTRA LARGE socialist basket cases. If you look how they cut up the state, the humongous liberal enclaves way outnumber the conservatives. Only hope is that Congress tells them to go pound sand if California does somehow make the referendum pass.

tennmike

The Constitution doesn't allow for dividing up an existing state into new states, regardless of what happened viz West Virginia.
Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1 is THE LAW for admitting new states. I put the juicy part in bold type.

Section 3.

New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

Congress is the last resort to head this mess off, and I hope they have the sense to do so. Just think of FOUR MORE Feinsteins and/or Kamala Harris clones in the U.S. Senate!

earlyagain

Could anyone even imagine the gridlock, the rhetorical urine flow, the infotainment tv excretions............

😮

zorba

Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.

tennmike

zorba said:

Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.

Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting.

zorba

If that's the case...

BAMAAK

I'd rather they became a new country, maybe North Mexico.

Buford

tennmike said:

Jayhawker said:

As I understand it...there are some parts of CA that are pretty conservative...so they could be shooting themselves in the foot

And they are outnumbered by the granola munchin' progressolibs that ran the state into the ground. Instead of one huge socialist basket case there would be THREE GRADE A EXTRA LARGE socialist basket cases. If you look how they cut up the state, the humongous liberal enclaves way outnumber the conservatives. Only hope is that Congress tells them to go pound sand if California does somehow make the referendum pass.

Exactly.

shootbrownelk

BAMAAK said:

I'd rather they became a new country, maybe North Mexico.  They already are North Mexico.

Big Chief

One flew east.

One flew west.

One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

sgtrock21

tennmike said:

zorba said:

Most of the state is conservative. Anything north of San Francisco. Anything outside the greater LA/San Diego area. Anything outside of Sacramento.

Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting.

You are 100% accurate. It worked in Oregon, Washington state(for those who may be thinking DC). Mostly in Colorado, and 100% in Hawaii which was probably hopeless anyway. Most of the states 90% of the geographical area being conservative with the liberal heavily populated cesspools overpowering the vote! It would of course work for dividing 'Commiefornia'! 

sgtrock21

Big Chief said:

One flew east.

One flew west.

One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

Since I now live about 12 miles away from the actual 'cuckoos nest' (Oregon State Hospital) and working there one night. With the addition of living in the Los Angeles Metro area for 3 years in the mid 1970s qualifies me to diagnose California's insane politics. "The lunatics are definitely running the asylum"!!!

10canyon53

sgtrock21 said:

Since I now live about 12 miles away from the actual 'cuckoos nest' (Oregon State Hospital) and working there one night. With the addition of living in the Los Angeles Metro area for 3 years in the mid 1970s qualifies me to diagnose California's insane politics. "The lunatics are definitely running the asylum"!!!

Go East young man......and South, don't forget South.  Simply East won't help if you go too far.

In other words, Get outta there!

tennmike

sgtrock21 said:

tennmike said:

Take a look at how the state has been divided in three parts. The Progressive/Liberal/Democrats outnumber the Conservatives by a large margin in each one. If you think that division was an accident, then I have some great info on Gulf Coast property in Montana you might find interesting.

You are 100% accurate. It worked in Oregon, Washington state(for those who may be thinking DC). Mostly in Colorado, and 100% in Hawaii which was probably hopeless anyway. Most of the states 90% of the geographical area being conservative with the liberal heavily populated cesspools overpowering the vote! It would of course work for dividing 'Commiefornia'! 

It was divided by Gerrymandering on a statewide scale to ensure that outcome. No other reason is possible or plausible for the division as it was done.