The Demo-cats are scratching in the litter box- - - - -

TeachTeach Senior MemberPosts: 18,084 Senior Member
Desperately trying to cover up the IG report, and all they're doing is digging up more crap!  The stink they're stirring up is epic!  LOL! 
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,352 Senior Member
    Please excuse my ignorance. What is the IG report?
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 703 Senior Member
    I believe he is referring to the Inspector General's report that was due to be released today.....all 500+ pages of it.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,084 Senior Member
    edited June 14 #4
    Christopher Wray from the FBI is on Fox News right now doing his best to spin things in a positive light- - - - -and failing miserably.
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,032 Senior Member
    The director violating protocols-----if the director does it, it is a new protocol.   
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 6,553 Senior Member
    I have a hard time believing anything out of the mouth of an FBI executive.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,084 Senior Member
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,616 Senior Member
    The upper echelon of FBI executives, in general, and the FBI lawyers specifically remind me of jellyfish. Jellyfish have no brain. Also:
    The gastrodermis, which is the inner layer. The mesoglea, or middle jelly, between the epidermis and gastrodermis. The gastrovascular cavity, which functions as a gullet, stomach, and intestine all in one. An orifice that functions as both the mouth and anus.
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,295 Senior Member
    Fun watching the "roaches" scurry from the light
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,261 Senior Member
    NPR reported just now that as usual the POTUS is trying to discredit ahead of time to smoke screen any findings.

    I know this type of reporting is POing some on here, but I was laughing pretty hard.

    Our tax dollars hard at work.
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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,012 Senior Member
    Any indictments from this??
  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,209 Senior Member
    The tree of liberty is DEAD.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    edited June 15 #13
    sgtrock21 said:
    Please excuse my ignorance. What is the IG report?
    The Office of the Inspector General is to the Justice Department what an internal affairs bureau is to a police department. They investigate the investigators, then whitewash any wrong-doing by them, or on rare occasions recommend termination, as they did for the Director (James Comey) and Assistant Director (Andrew McCabe) of the FBI. Supposedly, they do criminal referrals for obstruction of justice, or other crimes committed, but so far, only Andrew McCabe has been referred, even though there is ample evidence to suggest that at least two high-up investigators were filtering evidence in a way to exonerate Hilary and toast Trump.

    This particular investigation focused only on Hilary's illegal server investigation, and took 400 people 18 months to complete, with very little being produced that hasn't already been spelled out by the House Oversight committee, and Fox News. Eventually, when it's too late to matter, there will be a report on Justice Department handling of the FISA warrants against Trump campaign workers, and another that will cover Comey's leaking to the press, before and after he was fired.

    The reason that this one is newsworthy is because the Assistant AG, who is pretty much the de facto AG, since Sessions has recused himself, has been slow-walking document requests and redacting huge portions from the documents that they do turn over to the House and Senate committees that are supposed to provide oversight of the Justice Department, as part of the checks and balance system. When questioned by Congress, Justice Department and the FBI hierarchy always say they can't answer till the IG report comes out.

    If you haven't heard about any of this, you either go out of your way to avoid politics, or you watch CNN or the three big networks for your political news. Fox News has been attacked by the left for months for their reporting on this, but the IG report verifies most of the facts that they have reported, plus a few that haven't (due mostly to previous redactions) while downplaying most of their legal analysis of it.

  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    Any indictments from this??
    Naw - it was just kids being kids - nothing to see here...or so the Democrats say. It would take a special prosecutor to do that, and both the AG and Assistant AG are in the tank for protecting their own. Sessions has pretty much abdicated his position, leaving Rosenstein to handle things, and Rosenstein is so conflicted between covering his own ass and those of his buddies that he likely never will, unless it looks like it might save his job, at some point.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,414 Senior Member
    That's right bisley, the IG can not indict like a special prosecutor nor does he have the same 'Legal Power'. The IG was investigating its own organization which is why many wanted an independent investigator no matter how well regarded he is, he was still looking into his own.   
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,414 Senior Member
    The IG can make recommendations, but can't charge anyone with anything. He can also call for internal changes to help prevent things from happening again.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,084 Senior Member
    edited June 15 #17

    So a basically toothless tiger is the last bastion of truth and justice in the Washington swamp?  The tree of liberty isn't dead, but it's in dire need of "refreshment"- - - - -very soon!!

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    Jerry

     

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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    I find it amazing that Trump has had zero influence over the Justice Department during his entire time in office. Obviously, he was pretty much clueless as to what he was walking into, else he would have never appointed a limp noodle for AG, and left Sally Page, Rod Rosenstein, James Comey, and Andrew McCabe in their jobs, to undermine him from the very beginning. He has managed to get rid of all of them but Sessions and Rosenstein, but they are still the top two in the Justice Department, with Sessions being almost totally irrelevant, and Rosenstein still working against his best interests. His new FBI Director (Wray) appears to be totally under the thumb of Rosenstein, his immediate superior, and is of no use to him that I can see.

    Sessions has been absolutely worthless, having handed over his authority to Rosenstein, and placing Rosenstein in the unique position of getting to make judgements on contested issues that he has been personally involved in, in the previous administration. Both he and Comey have signed questionable requests for FISA warrants against members of a political campaign that were based on the unverified information provided by Hilary Clinton's opposition research team, originating in Russia. They have both been party to an investigation that has been run by counter-intelligence rules, directed by politically sensitive bureaucrats, rather than an actual legal investigation by real cops who present real facts to grand juries.

    Obviously, Trump, knowing what he knows now, would love to fire both of them, and special investigator Mueller to boot. He hasn't, because of the political repercussions that would result, apparently. So, that being the case, he has to let all of the political machinations run their course and collapse from their own lack of steam. In my opinion, that is the behavior of an innocent man (at least in this instance) who has 'bigger fish to fry.'
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,991 Senior Member
    No one want to comment the fact that Comey publicly announcing re-opening the Clinton investigation days before the election very likely was a key reason Trump actually won? That was the reason the IG found him "insubordinate." The election was decided by 100k votes in three states, easily within the margin swayed by his actions. Comey should be a conservative hero! He saved us from a Clinton presidency.
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,727 Senior Member
    Just maybe, some folks think Hillary would have lost anyways?
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,616 Senior Member
    No one want to comment the fact that Comey publicly announcing re-opening the Clinton investigation days before the election very likely was a key reason Trump actually won? That was the reason the IG found him "insubordinate." The election was decided by 100k votes in three states, easily within the margin swayed by his actions. Comey should be a conservative hero! He saved us from a Clinton presidency.
    Democrats couldn't get enough illegal aliens to enough polling stations with enough fake I.D.s to make up for the lack of new 'voting from the grave' votes.
    Never fear, Bernie 'Feel the Bern' Sanders will be running in 2020. Doesn't look like the banking fraud charges against he and his wife is going anywhere anytime soon. IF he gets elected then he can pardon his wife and himself! :D
    And batears Obama is ginning up to start campaigning and endorsing candidates for the bread and circuses masses to fawn over and vote for; candidate that promises the most EBT and Welfare benefits, $40 dollar minimum wage, and FREE SMARTPHONES and FREE paid for by working people health insurance will win the nomination. The Democrat Party, a.k.a. the party of Vlad Lenin, will front a true Socialist to run against Trump!
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 7,991 Senior Member
    edited June 15 #22
    Diver43 said:
    Just maybe, some folks think Hillary would have lost anyways?
    Trump's margin of victory was 0.08%. Would you want to go back in time and re-run the election with someone other than Comey running the FBI? Remember, Obama would get to pick that person. How many times out of 100 would Trump still be president with an FBI director who didn't make that announcement less than a week before the election?

    Comey is a conservative hero. He should get way more credit than Vladimir Putin for putting Trump in the White House.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    No one want to comment the fact that Comey publicly announcing re-opening the Clinton investigation days before the election very likely was a key reason Trump actually won? That was the reason the IG found him "insubordinate." The election was decided by 100k votes in three states, easily within the margin swayed by his actions. Comey should be a conservative hero! He saved us from a Clinton presidency.
    If you look at the timeline of events, Comey may have had to bring up the Wiener/Abedin laptop thing when he did, to cover up the fact that the FBI had been in possession of it for several weeks and was apparently planning to sit on it till after the election.

    There is some evidence to indicate that the agents involved were complaining about the lack of follow-up. There are apparently several field agents who have made it known that they would like to be subpoenaed on this and several other subjects. It is true that they could seek protection under whistle-blower statutes, but being subpoenaed forces them to testify, which is much better if a person wants to continue his FBI career. Everybody knows that a whistleblower has to succeed in taking out the party that he informs against, or he will face ruin. 
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 22,616 Senior Member
    Congress must be really tone deaf. With all the rank and file field agents all but begging to be subpoenaed to give testimony and air out the truth, you'd think that the Congresscritters would have subpoenas flying out of there that would make a blizzard in Montana look like a mere snow flurry.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 9,999 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Congress must be really tone deaf. With all the rank and file field agents all but begging to be subpoenaed to give testimony and air out the truth, you'd think that the Congresscritters would have subpoenas flying out of there that would make a blizzard in Montana look like a mere snow flurry.
    Republican leadership is showing extreme cowardice, when it comes to trying to clean up the Justice Department. They are ignoring the work of the oversight committees in both houses of Congress, and are apparently too lazy to read the IG report, which confirms most of what the committees have turned up, and what has been reported on Fox News. Anybody can question the conclusions of what the facts mean, but no honest person can deny the facts that clearly demonstrate that something stinks to high heaven in the Justice Department.

    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell should be outraged, if for no other reason, because their oversight duties, which are a major part of the checks and balances, are being challenged by a sub-branch of the executive branch of the government. They should be pounding their shoes on the podium like Krushchev did, demanding that the de facto head of the Justice Department (Asst. AG Rosenstein) either recuse himself due to conflicts of interest, or resign for defying their authority.

    If nothing else, they should pass a joint resolution that would, in effect, be a vote of 'no-confidence' in the leadership of the Dept. of Justice, and would give the President the political authority to fire Rosenstein, and force Sessions and Wray to clean up the FBI and Justice Dept., or resign and let somebody else do it.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 7,727 Senior Member
    I think the Democratic party is scared to death something like this will happen. People refuse to admit how deep and far the corruption runs, on BOTH sides. Just this time the Democrats will be uncovered first. That is why they have bombarded the Trump team with accusations.
    Remember Trump decided to not release the Kennedy report and extended its classification?  Why would he do that? Total deep corruption even back then would point at both parties and topple the capital.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,414 Senior Member
    Hillary lost because of a bad campaign and thought she was entitled to be crowned into the presidency...............because she is HRC and a woman. Didn't work for her.

    I wish that Witch would just fade away into obscurity.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,287 Senior Member
    ... and take Pelosi with her.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,414 Senior Member
    edited June 16 #29
    Plus folks were sick of 'Hope And Change' 8 years of nuthin but empty promises that cost working folks money and over regulation by the Govt. 

    She would have been just a continuation of Dipsticks policies and not even as good at spreading the feel good bull squeeze as he was so eloquent at.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 16,287 Senior Member
    I lost count of how many "ready for Hillary" stickers I saw starting just after the 2012 elections....
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

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  • cpjcpj Senior Member Posts: 37,653 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    tennmike said:
    Congress must be really tone deaf. With all the rank and file field agents all but begging to be subpoenaed to give testimony and air out the truth, you'd think that the Congresscritters would have subpoenas flying out of there that would make a blizzard in Montana look like a mere snow flurry.
    Republican leadership is showing extreme cowardice, when it comes to trying to clean up the Justice Department. They are ignoring the work of the oversight committees in both houses of Congress, and are apparently too lazy to read the IG report, which confirms most of what the committees have turned up, and what has been reported on Fox News. Anybody can question the conclusions of what the facts mean, but no honest person can deny the facts that clearly demonstrate that something stinks to high heaven in the Justice Department.

    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell should be outraged, if for no other reason, because their oversight duties, which are a major part of the checks and balances, are being challenged by a sub-branch of the executive branch of the government. They should be pounding their shoes on the podium like Krushchev did, demanding that the de facto head of the Justice Department (Asst. AG Rosenstein) either recuse himself due to conflicts of interest, or resign for defying their authority.

    If nothing else, they should pass a joint resolution that would, in effect, be a vote of 'no-confidence' in the leadership of the Dept. of Justice, and would give the President the political authority to fire Rosenstein, and force Sessions and Wray to clean up the FBI and Justice Dept., or resign and let somebody else do it.
    Yeah. Right. They will get allllll over that. 
    Both sides are worthless pieces of human ****. Period. The corruption is deep, and no one will ever do anything about it. Don’t crap where you eat, and all that rot. 
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