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Ruger PC Carbine Range Report

JKPJKP Senior MemberPosts: 2,247 Senior Member
edited June 2018 in General Firearms #1
Got my new carbine out to the range recently. Pretty handy little rifle. Ran about 200 rounds down the pipe with no issues.

I'm running a Sig Sauer Romeo 5 and like it so far, especially for $140. It has an auto on/off feature based on motion that works well.

Trigger is typical 10/22 and I'd definitely like improve it once more after market upgrades become available. I've also ordered a brake for it.

I fired 115 and 124 grain range grade ammo and got decent results at 50 yards especially considering the optic. Cheap Russian steel case even grouped decent.

For $500 I think the PC Carbine is a great alternative to the AR based 9mm carbines.


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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    That's encouraging. It would be hard for me, personally, to do any better (with any rifle) without some magnification, at 50 yards or more. I think 50 yards is probably the best distance to judge a 9mm carbine by, without a scope.

    I'm still mulling it over about buying one.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,025 Senior Member
    Yeah. I still contemplate getting one of those. Just not fully convinced yet. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    Ooooooo!
    I like that!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    They are fun, and the ability to change out the magwell to switch from Ruger to Glock magazines is a nice feature.

    Those groups are pretty much what I got at 70 yards with a red dot-and-circle sight on mine. Make sure the locking ring that adjusts receiver/barrel tension is snug. Mine was loose and I didn't really discover that until after my first time shooting it. It can make a big difference.
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    They are fun, and the ability to change out the magwell to switch from Ruger to Glock magazines is a nice feature.

    Those groups are pretty much what I got at 70 yards with a red dot-and-circle sight on mine. Make sure the locking ring that adjusts receiver/barrel tension is snug. Mine was loose and I didn't really discover that until after my first time shooting it. It can make a big difference.
    Good tip, pretty sure mine is a bit loose. Of course I have't read the instructions...

    I also hadn't yet used Loctite on the optic mount since I wasn't completely sold on it. That's since been rectified.

    More accuracy tests to follow.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    STOP IT!!!  ALL OF YOU!!  I'M NOT GETTING ONE... 
    Yes you are.............

    So when does a .45 ACP version come out?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #9
    Will Ruger make an aftermarket trigger sorta like the ones fer the ARs/10/22s for it, I'm betting they will someday.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
    It is rumored to have the "upgraded" version it for what that's worth. 

    Not it really a bad trigger, just nothing special. 
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    STOP IT!!!  ALL OF YOU!!  I'M NOT GETTING ONE... 
    You want one. You KNOW you WANT ONE! Stop resisting; you will be assimilated, resistance is futile! :D


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,025 Senior Member
    I’m gonna wait for the price to come down in a year or so. I like the gun. But not $550+ like. 

    Sub $500 and I could be convinced. 
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Here ya go $479 and I'm sure many other joints will have them sub $500


    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
    Mine was $500 shipped to FFL. 
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    If it was a 10mm, instead of 9mm, I would probably be on a waiting list somewhere, @ ~$500. That would make it a marginal hunting rifle, which the 9mm ain't, and therefore more utilitarian, to me.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    Exactly my thinking.
  • gatorgator Senior Member Posts: 1,746 Senior Member
    One of my favorite guns is my PC 4 
    I have a Millett 1" red dot set in ruger rings my groups are comparable to jkp's at 50 yards 

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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    If it was a 10mm, instead of 9mm, I would probably be on a waiting list somewhere, @ ~$500. That would make it a marginal hunting rifle, which the 9mm ain't, and therefore more utilitarian, to me.
    So get a hipoint in 10mm.
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #19
    Got a brake on it today - like the looks, will see how it performs when it's not 95 degrees in the shade. 


  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,247 Senior Member
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,742 Senior Member
    I like the idea. However, I'm going to wait until the inevitable day that PSA has a weekend sale of a PC Carbine and 3 stripped lowers for $375 
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  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,696 Senior Member
    Are you having the usual shifts of P.O.I. you have with take-down rifles when resting it in the front section? 10/22s surely suffer from this so you have to both settle to "plinking accuracy" and avoid resting it in front, no matter how tight you assemble it. Obviously not a match-accuracy gun but seems accurate enough for having fun at the range, putting down game in reasonable situations and as a HD rifle.

    Friend of mine just bagged one of the only 3 predecessors of this PC rifle that were imported here: The PC-9.
    Intended as showpieces for government contracts (Prison guards or so), being 9mm. were finally blocked of further importation (Back then it was a restricted caliber for civilians) and only 1 was sold to the general public; the owner fired it a little and stored it for over a decade before selling it to my pal. Hope to test-fire it soon and will make a range report if possible.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    BAMAAK said:
    bisley said:
    If it was a 10mm, instead of 9mm, I would probably be on a waiting list somewhere, @ ~$500. That would make it a marginal hunting rifle, which the 9mm ain't, and therefore more utilitarian, to me.
    So get a hipoint in 10mm.
    No. I don't like it.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    bisley said:
    BAMAAK said:
    bisley said:
    If it was a 10mm, instead of 9mm, I would probably be on a waiting list somewhere, @ ~$500. That would make it a marginal hunting rifle, which the 9mm ain't, and therefore more utilitarian, to me.
    So get a hipoint in 10mm.
    No. I don't like it.
    These are available in 10mm and in several platforms.

    http://mechtechsys.com/

    I have one in .45ACP on a 1911 frame. They're a lot of fun.

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  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,056 Senior Member
    If you remember correctly back in March/April I put a thread out my wife's  knot head friends husband that comes out to the ranch and drives me nuts with his all knowing everything.  In the post he told me he was buying the ultimate pig rifle the new Ruger PC Carbine and that bolt actions were obsolete. 

    I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, now that I've seen it on this thread I keep staring at my computer screen and saying "I just don't get it"!  I truly see zero need for this rifle, at least for me!  And if knot head thinks he's coming out and going hog hunting with that, he's "NUTS"!

    However, I'm glad y'all like but I just don't get it!
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    If you remember correctly back in March/April I put a thread out my wife's  knot head friends husband that comes out to the ranch and drives me nuts with his all knowing everything.  In the post he told me he was buying the ultimate pig rifle the new Ruger PC Carbine and that bolt actions were obsolete. 

    I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, now that I've seen it on this thread I keep staring at my computer screen and saying "I just don't get it"!  I truly see zero need for this rifle, at least for me!  And if knot head thinks he's coming out and going hog hunting with that, he's "NUTS"!

    However, I'm glad y'all like but I just don't get it!
    Sounds like the exaggerating braggart in Junior High who tried to convince everyone he had a Corvette at home that was his, not his dads..............so show us we said..............he said he can't cause he was to young fer a drivers license!
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member

    Jeff in TX said:
    I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, now that I've seen it on this thread I keep staring at my computer screen and saying "I just don't get it"!  I truly see zero need for this rifle, at least for me!  And if knot head thinks he's coming out and going hog hunting with that, he's "NUTS"!
    I don't need it. I just think it would be fun to plink with, and not a bad option for an additional home defense weapon. My wife is not into guns, and will not practice, even though she has some natural ability and shoots rather well for someone as disinterested as she is. We discovered that she shoots really well with an AR-15 at 50 yards, and she likes it. So, this would be a good option for her, around the house. I bought a 20 gauge 7-shot pump for her, but she has no interest in it.

    As for hogs, there is no way would I encourage any handgun round except maybe a .357 magnum, .44 magnum, 10mm, or the newer large caliber handgun rounds.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    A long gun allows the operator four points of contact as opposed to two for a handgun. At self defense distance (the range that excludes the possibility of escape) the extra contact could conceivably double on target hits. The major draw back of course being ready access and hard to hide.

    Not ideal for hunting, but arguably unsurpassed for defending the home, barn or shop.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,096 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #29
    I can see its utility to some, but for me personally, I don't need it.

    IF I ever decided to get one, it would be either a range toy for me, and/or a HD carbine for the wife
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    bisley said:
    BAMAAK said:
    bisley said:
    If it was a 10mm, instead of 9mm, I would probably be on a waiting list somewhere, @ ~$500. That would make it a marginal hunting rifle, which the 9mm ain't, and therefore more utilitarian, to me.
    So get a hipoint in 10mm.
    No. I don't like it.
    These are available in 10mm and in several platforms.

    http://mechtechsys.com/

    I have one in .45ACP on a 1911 frame. They're a lot of fun.

    Yeah, I have studied those. They are selling the fixed stock model, now, for $435, which I think is a little less than when I was looking at them, and Hickok45 shot about 300 rounds through it, with good accuracy and no malfunctions, so I might go that route.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,398 Senior Member
    If you remember correctly back in March/April I put a thread out my wife's  knot head friends husband that comes out to the ranch and drives me nuts with his all knowing everything.  In the post he told me he was buying the ultimate pig rifle the new Ruger PC Carbine and that bolt actions were obsolete. 

    I hate to be a Debbie Downer here, now that I've seen it on this thread I keep staring at my computer screen and saying "I just don't get it"!  I truly see zero need for this rifle, at least for me!  And if knot head thinks he's coming out and going hog hunting with that, he's "NUTS"!

    However, I'm glad y'all like but I just don't get it!
    I'd give my Ruger carbine a pass on hogs unless I could take shots at 40 yards or less. Main reason for that range is I would be shooting into the ear canal, or at the base of the skull. For deer where I hunt, 40 yards is the average distance from a tree stand to the deer, so a double tap with a light recoiling carbine would be doable. I've shot a few deer with the .357 Mag  single shot rifle I put together at that yardage, and shorter, and haven't had to do any tracking; they fell within sight of the stand, and the two head shots were bang/flop. Allowances have to be made for the platform and the power of the round. If you can't wait for that shot that will pretty much guarantee good shot placement at an acceptable range and a clean kill, then wait some more, or pass on it, or hunt with something with more power downrange. It's that simple.

    Neither the Ruger Carbine or the Kel Tec Sub 2000 I own were bought for hunting. Plinking, and HD/SD is their primary purpose. The Kel Tec folds and fits in a small innocuous bag that gives no outward sign of its contents and rides in the truck on occasion. Fits under the seat and out of sight.
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