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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,309 Senior Member
    We are seeing more examples of self segregation.  Some people are 100% happy to live in their own echo chamber bubble and hate anyone outside it. 
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member

    Calls from Democrats, celebrities to harass Trump staffers, allies, family members raise safety fears


    "Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters of California over the weekend sought to bring the 'resistance' to a new level when she urged supporters to swarm Cabinet members at gas stations and anywhere else they're seen."

    "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere," Waters said.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/25/trump-officials-hounded-and-harassed-as-protester-tactics-take-turn.html





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  • bisleybisley Senior Member East TexasPosts: 10,815 Senior Member
    All of these hate campaigns against Trump may energize their dumbass base, but the latest popularity polls show Trump gaining, about equal to Obama and Reagan, at this point in their presidencies. So, this may not be the best plan for recapturing Congress.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #35
    cpj said:
    Good. 
    That too, will sort itself out, in short order....
    While I have to agree with you, I find it disturbing that people somehow think harassment is acceptable political discourse.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Merrritt Island, FLPosts: 25,219 Senior Member
    I detest self-righteous people - from either side of "the aisle".
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    The neighbors at the end of the street have a big sign in their yard that reads Trump does not speak for us.

    Now maybe the sign's meaning is face value. Maybe not though. It could be put there to put off aggression from anyone that may assume otherwise.

    I have no intention of inquiring, and maintain no ill will or animosity either way.

    Democratic government (small 'd') is an argument. I have no desire to silence anyone.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    True.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    At some point, if this idiocy grows and gets more violent, someone is going to get hurt. Someone will lay hand to someone they are 'protesting' and it will end poorly either way. I do find it odd that the party that protests violence against women so strongly seems to exclude women from the opposite political party in that protest against violence against women. They'll eventually lay hand to the wrong woman, and her husband/significant other will lay into them and make them wish they were somewhere else. At the rate it's deteriorating, that is looking inevitable. Some folks just got to pee on the electric fence for themselves.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Even Nancy Pelosi sent out something telling them to more or less cool it/tone it down.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    The solution to this is easy. Just do like the restaurants do that don't allow firearms and put up a sign saying NO CONSERVATIVES WILL BE SERVED BY THIS RESTAURANT or whatever business it is. Now see how simple that is!
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Lake County, FloridaPosts: 7,927 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #42
    They want to be violent? I would enjoy seeing a few 250 pound conservative gym rats pick a couple of them clear off the ground and slam their heads together like coconuts!
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    They want to be violent? I would enjoy seeing a few 250 pound conservative gym rats pick a couple of them clear off the ground and slam their heads together like coconuts!
    Since 'Auntie Maxine' just called for her followers to harass Conservatives everywhere they see one, you might get your wish to see that.
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Somewhere north of MozambiquePosts: 6,637 Senior Member
    To borrow (once again) a phrase coined by Bigslug:

    I find myself completely overwhelmed with an all-consuming sense of not giving much of a crap.  

    Folks that want storm the place with torches and pitchforks are just as bat scat crazy as the folks who want to have a parade. cpj, jerm and Cali are exactly right on this.  They ask you to leave (or even shrilly DEMAND you leave), then you leave.  Period.  You can tell all your friends about it, you can put it on the tweeter (😉), you can shout it from the rooftops if you want.  But you leave.

    Because the Bill of Rights works for everybody, not just conservatives. 

    Chief asked "what if it was about guns?"  Heck, that happens EVERY day! You've never seen a "no guns" sign posted on a business??  I'm reasonably certain we've had more than one conversation here about the idiocy of "free fire" zones...
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #45
    Much better than this...........

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    What Coolgunguy said in Post #55 is the way it should be handled. If you're asked to leave, then leave. I was TOLD to leave a few restaurants when I was in the Navy. I was in either dress blues or dress whites when it happened, too, depending on season. Just sat down at a table, and the waiter/waitress told me to leave. I just got up and left, except for when one waiter followed me outside and called me a name he shouldn't have. When I got through yelling at him, he knew his genealogy to a much higher degree than a DNA test would have revealed. And none of the restaurants were high class hoity-toity establishments, either. I never was given a reason why, just told that I had to leave. That's cool, too; don't really need a reason. If they don't want my money, then I'm O.K. with that.
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Western PAPosts: 8,233 Senior Member

    What good would suing do other than waste a bunch of money? The Conservative leaning Supreme Court just ruled that this sort of crap is fine. I don't like it on either side regardless of the reason, but expect to see a lot more of it over the next few years. 
    Nope, SCOTUS ruled that the baker had proven it was not discriminatory by serving the customer, but the customer had no right to the bakers specific talent of decorating cakes for weddings because forcing him to violated his first amendment rights.

    This is discrimination based on political belief.

    That said, I support their right to serve who they want to and lose the revenue that goes with it. They will see a bump for 2 weeks, then start seeing a loss.

    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    But the left isn't alone in this. I think people on both sides need to take a step back and look in the mirror. That evil liberal caricature of a straw man that gets burned on here so often? The left has that same mental image of us. Neither one of them resemble reality.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    Looking at the facts, people with a liberal outlook tend to have less to lose than those that are more conservative. It makes sense to me that if you have little or nothing to lose, there is nothing to inhibit bold actions. People tend to be conservative in their actions because they have too much to lose. It is just the way it is.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    It seems to that Maxine Waters pretty much owns this by herself.

    Tattoo her with excommunication 'A' and let her go down with the swirl of her own hand🚽

    There's laws against harming people. Do the crime, do the time.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Have we forgotten Charlottesville already? Both sides have plenty with a violent streak and not much to lose. The hate seeking missiles will continue to launch as long as we continue to stoke the flames of hatred. 
    No. I remember who was being extremely violent in Charlottesville before the nut in the car went crazy.
    To recap: White nationalists protested; they're not Conservatives; they are best described as neoNazis, a.k.a. Socialists. KKK had a rally there, too, and they are the ugly baby of the Democrat Party. The whole mess was over the proposed removal of a Confederate statue in the park; wasn't the right wing of the bird calling for the removal of the statue. BLM was also there. The counterprotesters protesting the 'Unite the Right' group did a lot of violence BEFORE the incident with the car hitting the protesters. The driver of the car was a white nationalist, a.k.a., a neoNazi. NeoNazis aren't conservatives. Don't look, but three of your own fingers are pointing back at you while you're pointing it erroneously at the ugly groups of the left and trying to make them conservatives.

    The counter protesters got their licks in on the opposition, too. Don't try to cover that up; there's plenty of video to confirm that. And let's not forget that the police and the NG were not allowed to do their job to keep the groups separated. I wonder who ordered that?

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  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,930 Senior Member
    I try to stay out of politics but I agree with Wambli and Jerm. Conservatives have more to loose so they take a lot more crap than the left. If these in your face actions had been done by a conservative during the previous administration there would have been a fight or the conservative hauled off to jail. The left gets away with way to much. I just fear they are pushing the envelope to far this time and that fine line will be crossed. What happens when that fine line is crossed we have yet to see. 
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    Registered voters that have jobs, support families, and take an active interest in political discourse, deliberately committ felonies against people they disagree with because that's what liberal's do????  Really???

    It's difficult to substantiate or disprove such mantra, but it would be my guess that such crimes are committed by people not engaged in political process and more engaged in criminal activity.

    As far as Charlottesville goes, how many people live out their lives in that part of the country anonymously supporting their communities compared to  how many people gathered at what became a tragedy.

    The news media blows this stuff up out of all proportion to reality. Small crowds of wayward misfits suddenly represent the whole nation.

    I've spent thirty years of my life on the public streets of a big city. All these fools care about is getting home from work. Not an unreasonable desire in my opinion.

    I don't think these fringe groups claiming to be left or right amount to dust in the wind compared to the population as a whole.


  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #54

    Red Hen owner resigns from Virginia business group after booting Sarah Sanders from restaurant



    Business is business, I reckon.


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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member crusted in sandPosts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:

    Red Hen owner resigns from Virginia business group after booting Sarah Sanders from restaurant



    Business is business, I reckon.



    In one of the articles that I read, the owner stated that she asked her gay employees if they wanted to serve her and it was by the gay employees request that Mrs Sanders and her family were asked to leave. Is everyone missing the irony of a group that wants to be accepted and treated like everyone else refused to accept and serve someone because of their political affiliation and employer.
     
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    So all this went down without a lawsuit or a court case? The market and business did exactly as it should. If I had a manager in my employ that pulled that stunt, they would have been unemployed. If I had a partner that pulled that crap, they would be my ex-partner so fast their head would spin.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I am sure there were plenty of other places that would have gladly taken Sander's money in exchange for food and service-- like if I had been in Colorado, I would have made that couple a really really gay cake and happily taken the money that that one baker passed on.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • bisleybisley Senior Member East TexasPosts: 10,815 Senior Member
    Have we forgotten Charlottesville already? Both sides have plenty with a violent streak and not much to lose. The hate seeking missiles will continue to launch as long as we continue to stoke the flames of hatred. 
    You have more than one incident on this list since the election?  I have a long list of executed police officers across the country and I’m sure the killers were not registered Republicans.  Lots of burning buildings in “demonstrations” all across the country.  Blazing whole sections of towns in fact every time a ruling does not go their way.  Outlandish demonstrations of hatred and blatant open hostility against conservative speakers at colleges to the point of threatening their personal security.  And on and on...

    Thinking both sides equal in this regards is outright wrong.
    https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-white-supremacist-murders-more-than-doubled-in-2017

    Last year 20 people were killed by right wing extremists and white supremacists. Admittedly 5 were killed by Black Nationalists (left wing) which is a threat that shouldn't be ignored. Overall though over the past 10 years right wing extremists have been responsible for 275 deaths vs. 100 for islamic terrorists and 12 for left wing extremists.

    The difference I think is that the right wing tends to have lots of lone wolfs or small groups that go out and perpetrate violence, while the left tends to congregate in mobs and focuses more on grabbing attention and property damage with less focus on assualt and murder. That said the mob mentality can be dangerous and could lead to escalation if things continue on the current path.
    If you are going to go statistical on this issue, do it right. If the right has to be judged by white supremacists and lone wolfs that nobody endorses, then the left has to be judged by the cop-killers, who are just carrying the leftist message to the extreme.

    What does that do to your equation?
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Western PAPosts: 8,233 Senior Member
    Why would the right be judged by White Supremacists? At best those folks are ALT-right (alt meaning alternative to). They are for left AKA socialist reforms, not adherence to the rule of law. ALT-right is a left leaning branch. Same policy's, different groups, ANTIFA=KKK in different colored hoods. Atheism and group identity are what they are about.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member East TexasPosts: 10,815 Senior Member
    Maybe you should break down the right wing extremist numbers, too, if you're going to pick and choose on the police murders.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member crusted in sandPosts: 5,797 Senior Member
    bisley said: I
    Maybe you should break down the right wing extremist numbers, too, if you're going to pick and choose on the police murders.

    •    May 20 – Richard Collins III, an African American and Bowie State University student, was stabbed to death by Sean Urbanski, a member of a Facebook group called the "Alt-Reich: Nation."

    •    May 26 – Three men in Portland tried to stop white supremacist Jeremy Christian  from harassing two women who appeared to be Muslim. For their bravery, the three men were viciously attacked; two were murdered and the third was seriously injured. 

    •    May 27 – Anthony Hammond was arrested in Clearlake, Calif. for allegedly stabbing a black man with a machete, after yelling racial slurs. While en route to the Lake County Jail, Hammond threatened to kill the transporting officer and his family once he was released. Hammond was charged with committing a hate crime, among other charges.

    •    May 28 – Two Native American men in Washington State were run over by a pickup truck driven by a white man shouting racial slurs and war whoops. One of the tribal members was killed and the other hospitalized.

    That is one month last year, all found in the first link I clicked on. I'm sure I can break it down further...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/18/president-trump-wants-facts-right-wing-extremism-here-they-are-erroll-southers-column/577308001/

    In Reston, Virginia, a teenager who allegedly absorbed neo-Nazi ideology online has been charged with shooting and killing his girlfriend’s parents in a tragic double homicide. The young man allegedly committed the murders after learning that the parents had convinced their daughter to break up with him because of his purported racist views.

    21-year-old man in New Mexico who, The Daily Beast reported, frequented white-supremacist websites went on a shooting rampage at a local high school, murdering two students before taking his own life.

    Or take Taylor Michael Wilson, who on October 22 allegedly breached a secure area of an Amtrak train as it passed through Nebraska and pulled the emergency break: He was armed with a gun and carrying business cards from the National Socialist Movement. Wilson, who had participated in the rally in Charlottesville, had a stash of more than 20 weapons at his house. A family member said that Wilson was “serious about killing black people,” according to an FBI affidavit filed in the case. He’s now charged with terrorism.

    In March, James Jackson allegedly traveled from Maryland to New York City to attack African American men in an alleged effort to discourage interracial relationships. That same month, a grand jury indicted a South Carolina man on firearms charges after he reportedly discussed plans for “an attack on non-whites.” And in October, three Texas men were arrested in Gainesville, Florida, for allegedly firing into a group of people following a campus speaking event featuring the alt-right leader Richard Spencer.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-resurgent-threat-of-white-supremacist-violence/550634/

    Should I go on?


    Aren't you at work right now at your high paying, taxpayer funded job? Where do you find time to play on the internet when you're "earning" your paycheck?
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
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