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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    Maybe you should break down the right wing extremist numbers, too, if you're going to pick and choose on the police murders.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    bisley said: I
    Maybe you should break down the right wing extremist numbers, too, if you're going to pick and choose on the police murders.

    •    May 20 – Richard Collins III, an African American and Bowie State University student, was stabbed to death by Sean Urbanski, a member of a Facebook group called the "Alt-Reich: Nation."

    •    May 26 – Three men in Portland tried to stop white supremacist Jeremy Christian  from harassing two women who appeared to be Muslim. For their bravery, the three men were viciously attacked; two were murdered and the third was seriously injured. 

    •    May 27 – Anthony Hammond was arrested in Clearlake, Calif. for allegedly stabbing a black man with a machete, after yelling racial slurs. While en route to the Lake County Jail, Hammond threatened to kill the transporting officer and his family once he was released. Hammond was charged with committing a hate crime, among other charges.

    •    May 28 – Two Native American men in Washington State were run over by a pickup truck driven by a white man shouting racial slurs and war whoops. One of the tribal members was killed and the other hospitalized.

    That is one month last year, all found in the first link I clicked on. I'm sure I can break it down further...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/18/president-trump-wants-facts-right-wing-extremism-here-they-are-erroll-southers-column/577308001/

    In Reston, Virginia, a teenager who allegedly absorbed neo-Nazi ideology online has been charged with shooting and killing his girlfriend’s parents in a tragic double homicide. The young man allegedly committed the murders after learning that the parents had convinced their daughter to break up with him because of his purported racist views.

    21-year-old man in New Mexico who, The Daily Beast reported, frequented white-supremacist websites went on a shooting rampage at a local high school, murdering two students before taking his own life.

    Or take Taylor Michael Wilson, who on October 22 allegedly breached a secure area of an Amtrak train as it passed through Nebraska and pulled the emergency break: He was armed with a gun and carrying business cards from the National Socialist Movement. Wilson, who had participated in the rally in Charlottesville, had a stash of more than 20 weapons at his house. A family member said that Wilson was “serious about killing black people,” according to an FBI affidavit filed in the case. He’s now charged with terrorism.

    In March, James Jackson allegedly traveled from Maryland to New York City to attack African American men in an alleged effort to discourage interracial relationships. That same month, a grand jury indicted a South Carolina man on firearms charges after he reportedly discussed plans for “an attack on non-whites.” And in October, three Texas men were arrested in Gainesville, Florida, for allegedly firing into a group of people following a campus speaking event featuring the alt-right leader Richard Spencer.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-resurgent-threat-of-white-supremacist-violence/550634/

    Should I go on?


    Aren't you at work right now at your high paying, taxpayer funded job? Where do you find time to play on the internet when you're "earning" your paycheck?
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,101 Senior Member
    So all this went down without a lawsuit or a court case? The market and business did exactly as it should. If I had a manager in my employ that pulled that stunt, they would have been unemployed. If I had a partner that pulled that crap, they would be my ex-partner so fast their head would spin.
    BACK UP THE BUS!!!!

    You're acting like something happened to her and HER business....

    The link says she voluntarily resigned from her position at a local business group, "Main Street Lexington"

    Stephanie Wilkinson stepped down as an executive director of Main Street Lexington, an organization tasked with promoting economic viability, Fox News has learned.


    It says nothing about unemployment or anything else regarding HER business.
    So all this went down without a lawsuit or a court case? The market and business did exactly as it should. If I had a manager in my employ that pulled that stunt, they would have been unemployed. If I had a partner that pulled that crap, they would be my ex-partner so fast their head would spin.
    Bingo...
    See above
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Well crap, I guess I should have clicked the link. My bad.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    Every time I read the news, I am reminded that not only is the Earth overpopulated, it is overpopulated with assholes. This too is no exception. 
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,101 Senior Member
    Wambli Ska said: We'll be seeing an "Under New management" sign on that window soon.
    That's yet to be seen.

    Considering the location, her business may thrive due to the influx of Trump haters supporting her and "Auntie" Maxine
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    I guess it's a good thing that restaurant owner didn't throw out a Hillary Clinton staffer. If that had happened then the restaurant owner would have committed suicide by now; two bullets to the back of the head, with a revolver.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    CNN - great source. They blame Trump for it, and then mention that it is no different from the high number of Jewish targets that have been hit. Uh..Trump's daughter and SIL are Jewish, and he is the first President to keep his promise to move the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem.

    I wouldn't believe any of your sources, without corroboration.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,683 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    ...it ONLY serves as fodder for political dick measuring contests. 
    “Well, your side did this 18 times in the last 3 years!”
    ”Yeah but, YOUR side did THIS 19 times in the last 18 months!”
    Yep. Exactly what I found when I went looking for info on the Florida gubernatorial race - completely useless.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,937 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Out of the billions of people in this world, there WILL BE douche bag ass holes. On ALL sides. Period, end of story. This CANNOT  BE CHANGED. The amount of douche bag ass holery comapred to the non douche bag ass holery is statistically insignificant, it ONLY serves as fodder for political dick measuring contests. 
    “Well, your side did this 18 times in the last 3 years!”
    ”Yeah but, YOUR side did THIS 19 times in the last 18 months!”
    cpj said:
    Out of the billions of people in this world, there WILL BE douche bag ass holes. On ALL sides. Period, end of story. This CANNOT  BE CHANGED. The amount of douche bag ass holery comapred to the non douche bag ass holery is statistically insignificant, it ONLY serves as fodder for political dick measuring contests. 
    “Well, your side did this 18 times in the last 3 years!”
    ”Yeah but, YOUR side did THIS 19 times in the last 18 months!”
    Damn it Chris! If we think of things in those terms we won't be able to generalize into entire massive groups of people and we might even figure out a way to all get along. We can't have that!

    Seriously though fair point.
    It is an absolutely a fair point.  But while I detest the extreme on MY side of the fence this does not stop me from wanting to choke the life out of some DB snowflake breaking windows with impunity at his local Starbucks because he did not like the results of the election.  And THIS is not considered extreme behavior anymore, it is normal everyday behavior by a large portion of the left, specially the young.  Activism against everyday actions like Conservative speakers being driven out of college campuses is an affront to our liberty and rights.  And every time I bring that up and someone says "well your side does it too", instead of just acknowledging that it is wrong it makes me think they learned their debating skills at five years old when "he did it first" was a valid point to make to mommy...

    I know there are tons of instances of DBs on both sides of the isle but dear Lord when I see folks like Maxine Waters in positions of leadership egging on the bottom of the gene pool and the snowflakes to uncivilized actions it just makes my blood boil.  That this imbecile can be elected to a federal level position by ANY constituency in the USA makes me think our gene pool is polluted well beyond any chance of a cleanup...
    I say we let them at eachother. Let Antifa and the racist jackasses go at it. Maybe they can all meet at Gettysburg at the site of pickets charge. Set a time and date and have law enforcement set a perimeter. Only rule inside the perimeter is no firearms. Would be a great way to reduce the population of Nazis and Anarchists!
    Don't forget to put it on live broadcast so the Nation can observe
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,683 Senior Member
    Fergit that! I'll be there to watch first hand!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    No firearms? O.K. But any other weapon that is not a firearm can be used.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,128 Senior Member
    Screw that, let them kill each other with butter knives-- let them suffer for a bit for our amusement.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    Unfortunately these folks tend to be absolute cowards who will only do things they think they'll get away with sans consequences.  I'm sure the thought of real physical harm is absolutely abhorrent and outright frightening to them...  So they will yell insults at each other from the edges of the field until they are hoarse...
    Start shrinking the perimeter until they are face to face...
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Once they're through brawling, just be sure to shoot the survivors.  Auntie Maxi-pad had to cancel a few rallies she was planning on having because of "death threats"- - - - - -rumor has it those threats came from her mirror!
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    CaliFFL said:
    sgtrock21 said:
    "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". It is a very, very broad brush. There should be a legitimate reason. A bat s**t crazy liberal hating anyone associated with the Trump administration refusing service? Probably not. In practice it returns to refusing service to negroes.   
    It should be a very broad brush. Refusing service to anyone should be a business owner's right. Don't want to sell to blacks? Fine, but don't expect any non-bigots to enter your establishment. A savvy entrepreneur will open a competing shop across the street with a big sign out front "ALL ARE WELCOME". Let's see who stays in business and who fails. 

    The market works when left alone by government. 
    This may not be true in certain parts of the country.  Not just the south either.
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    BAMAAK said:
    CaliFFL said:
    sgtrock21 said:
    "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". It is a very, very broad brush. There should be a legitimate reason. A bat s**t crazy liberal hating anyone associated with the Trump administration refusing service? Probably not. In practice it returns to refusing service to negroes.   
    It should be a very broad brush. Refusing service to anyone should be a business owner's right. Don't want to sell to blacks? Fine, but don't expect any non-bigots to enter your establishment. A savvy entrepreneur will open a competing shop across the street with a big sign out front "ALL ARE WELCOME". Let's see who stays in business and who fails. 

    The market works when left alone by government. 
    This may not be true in certain parts of the country.  Not just the south either.

    I was thinking the Civil Rights Act of 1964 kind of frowned on that.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    LBJ got his civil rights act passed, but he was a little off with his "200 year" prediction- - - - -that voting bloc is getting tired of being lied to after only 50-something years.  Now they've got to pander to the illegals and the "free stuff" socialists!
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,484 Senior Member
    edited June 2018 #80
    It may not be direct we won't serve you cause you are x ethnicity, but you can be made to feel unwanted and uncomfortable.  I know a women, half asian, sweet kid, grew up with my girls, went to a local small dinner.  Staff served her but the "regular" bubbas made loud slanderous comments while she was there.  No laws broken but management didn't say a word.  Think shell go back?
    "He only earns his freedom and his life Who takes them every day by storm."

    -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German writer and politician
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,797 Senior Member
    Recently on FOX they made some clarification about the owner's story about asking Sanders and her family to leave per the request of her gay employees. Not only did she want them out of her restaurant, when the group walked across the street to another restaurant, she followed them and tried to get that restaurant to kick them out also. I wonder why all of the other networks didn't point that out?
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,937 Senior Member
    That kind of harrassment is going to get someone hurt.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    "Hurt" isn't sufficient- - - - -The next time a bunch like ANTIFA starts throwing rocks, bottles, and fireworks at a group with a properly executed permit to march like they just did in Portland Oregon, it's time to lock and load, and take out a few dozen of those paid anarchists.  Then let's see if they're able to recruit replacements without upping the pay scale exponentially.  Until anarchy starts gets deadly, it's all fun and games for the worthless scum.     
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,736 Senior Member
    edited July 2018 #84
    cpj said:
    I FULLY support the rights of this restaraunt. Good on them for throwing them out. 

    I agree 100%. But the 1 way street of hypocrisy and outrage needs to stop! Can't have it both ways.l 
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    edited July 2018 #85
    Teach said:
    "Hurt" isn't sufficient- - - - -The next time a bunch like ANTIFA starts throwing rocks, bottles, and fireworks at a group with a properly executed permit to march like they just did in Portland Oregon, it's time to lock and load, and take out a few dozen of those paid anarchists.  Then let's see if they're able to recruit replacements without upping the pay scale exponentially.  Until anarchy starts gets deadly, it's all fun and games for the worthless scum.     


    Don't even consider comparing them to another political group that broke windows, set fires, and physically assaulted citizens who supported the current government and/or practiced a certain religion in early 1930s Germany. ANTIFAscism my DONKEY!

    The correct word was auto-censored. Grrrrrrr...

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    Bikers For Trump showed up at the Red Hen Restaurant today, but it is still closed; not supposed to open until the 5th of July, maybe. The owner may have stirred the pot a lot more than intended, and may have to wait a good while before reopening. I guess she and her employees will have to do without any money for a while. Too bad, so sad................................... NOT!
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,672 Senior Member
    Teach said:
    Once they're through brawling, just be sure to shoot the survivors.  Auntie Maxi-pad had to cancel a few rallies she was planning on having because of "death threats"- - - - - -rumor has it those threats came from her mirror!
    That mug would scare the paint off a wall.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,403 Senior Member
    Teach said:
    Once they're through brawling, just be sure to shoot the survivors.  Auntie Maxi-pad had to cancel a few rallies she was planning on having because of "death threats"- - - - - -rumor has it those threats came from her mirror!
    That mug would scare the paint off a wall.
    Worse than that! She'd make the milk of human kindness curdle and go bad instantaneously!
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
    ― Douglas Adams
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,683 Senior Member
    Freight train off the track?
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    sgtrock21 said:
    BAMAAK said:
    CaliFFL said:
    sgtrock21 said:
    "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". It is a very, very broad brush. There should be a legitimate reason. A bat s**t crazy liberal hating anyone associated with the Trump administration refusing service? Probably not. In practice it returns to refusing service to negroes.   
    It should be a very broad brush. Refusing service to anyone should be a business owner's right. Don't want to sell to blacks? Fine, but don't expect any non-bigots to enter your establishment. A savvy entrepreneur will open a competing shop across the street with a big sign out front "ALL ARE WELCOME". Let's see who stays in business and who fails. 

    The market works when left alone by government. 
    This may not be true in certain parts of the country.  Not just the south either.

    I was thinking the Civil Rights Act of 1964 kind of frowned on that.
    Just because a law was passed, does not mean it is constitutional or even righteous. If I own a business, it should be my right to not conduct business with anyone for any reason. The CRA destroyed the concept that all transactions should be voluntary...in other words, without government coercion. For both the customer and the proprietor.  

    Will you defend 1968 GCA simply because it is a law? 

    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    CaliFFL said:
    sgtrock21 said:
    BAMAAK said:
    CaliFFL said:
    sgtrock21 said:
    "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". It is a very, very broad brush. There should be a legitimate reason. A bat s**t crazy liberal hating anyone associated with the Trump administration refusing service? Probably not. In practice it returns to refusing service to negroes.   
    It should be a very broad brush. Refusing service to anyone should be a business owner's right. Don't want to sell to blacks? Fine, but don't expect any non-bigots to enter your establishment. A savvy entrepreneur will open a competing shop across the street with a big sign out front "ALL ARE WELCOME". Let's see who stays in business and who fails. 

    The market works when left alone by government. 
    This may not be true in certain parts of the country.  Not just the south either.

    I was thinking the Civil Rights Act of 1964 kind of frowned on that.
    Just because a law was passed, does not mean it is constitutional or even righteous. If I own a business, it should be my right to not conduct business with anyone for any reason. The CRA destroyed the concept that all transactions should be voluntary...in other words, without government coercion. For both the customer and the proprietor.  

    Will you defend 1968 GCA simply because it is a law? 

    I guess my "problem" is that I am excessively law abiding. I don't consider agreeing with a law a requirement for obeying it. Our brilliant founding fathers crafted a democratic republic allowing as much freedom as possible. Why not 100% freedom? They were well aware that 100% freedom rapidly devolves into 100% chaos. Why? humans will always be humans. I am currently defending the portion of the mostly terrible 1968 GCA that allows 18-20 year olds to legally purchase 'long arms' and the ammunition they use.

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