Worst Rifle (civilian) ever made?

Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior MemberPosts: 1,008 Senior Member
Since Taurus doesn’t make rifles and military only rifles are out, what rifle is the worst ever made?


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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 2,474 Senior Member
    edited June 28 #2
    I don't think I've ever had one worthy of that title. I once had a shotgun purchased for forty dollars at a pawn shop. It was a bolt action 20ga marked Montgomery Ward and should have been marked ugly stick. But it worked. My Dad had an Ithaca 22 auto once that would not cycle or fire reliably, but it may have just been broken.

    Edit
    The fit and finish on my Traditions muzzleloader caplocks was terrible. But onced tinkered into serviceability they shoot accurately and reliably.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,259 Senior Member
    Taurus is making an AR now.  Its a tough gun to screw up but given the chance I'm sure they can do it.
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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 4,284 Senior Member
    Remington 742. Why anyone would design a rifle that self destructs with relatively little firing is beyond me. I own 3. None has had even 400 rounds through it, and the integral bolt rail looks like a mile of bad railroad track in all of them. Mike
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,623 Senior Member
    BAMAAK said:
    Taurus is making an AR now.  Its a tough gun to screw up but given the chance I'm sure they can do it.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,623 Senior Member
    What was that Rem .22 auto that WMG and others said was a POS????
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,222 Senior Member
    Remington 742. Why anyone would design a rifle that self destructs with relatively little firing is beyond me. I own 3. None has had even 400 rounds through it, and the integral bolt rail looks like a mile of bad railroad track in all of them. Mike
    My dad bought a 742 in about 1966, before we went on a Colorado whitetail hunt. He killed a nice buck with it, with a full magazine of running shots, down the side of a mountain, but all were fired manually, because it jammed after the first shot. He tinkered with it for years, without ever making it reliable.He always regretted not buying a Model 700 or 600. It was the only gun he had that I didn't keep, after he passed on, so I think I agree with your choice.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,504 Senior Member
    Anyone with a monte carlo stock
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 6,877 Senior Member
    Fixing 742's paid for a lot of my hunting trips out west!. You can grind down those gouges the bolt lugs create, but it's only a temporary fix! 
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,283 Senior Member
    Taurus build (Builds?) a Winchester 62 .22LR pump action clone, and the couple I've handled worked fine and their owners have never complaint about them.

    Really haven't handled a complete POS rifle so far; many had some design faults, poor material in some parts or assorted problems (Not considering the occasional "lemons") but pretty much can be eventually be solved by repairing/replacing parts or just avoided by using the gun under certain conditions.

  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,504 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    What was that Rem .22 auto that WMG and others said was a POS????
    the 597?


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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,623 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    What was that Rem .22 auto that WMG and others said was a POS????
    the 597?


    Yep, I think you are right.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 665 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    What was that Rem .22 auto that WMG and others said was a POS????
    the 597?


    Made quite a bit of money tuning those up. And they can be made to run flawless.
  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,283 Senior Member
    Indeed; we got a single batch of them in the early '00s and most showed assorted issues, mostly magazine and bolt-related that resulted in multiple FTFs and irregular action cycling. In fact a good friend of mine got a laminated stock one brand new, fired it a little and sold it due to its loading problems.
    Eventually most issues could be more or less "solved" by a combination of polishing/tweaking some internal parts, using a good lube for the action to run smooth and restricting to CCLRNHV ammo only.

    Currently only know of one still working in the hands of the original owner who knows about its issues but still is fond of it since it hasn't failed him in plinking and hunting situations. The rest have pretty much disappeared, probably sold to remote areas hunters or just trashed.

    Maybe those rifles could be considered as one of the poorly-made rifles produced lately.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,207 Senior Member
    edited June 28 #15
    Remington 742. Why anyone would design a rifle that self destructs with relatively little firing is beyond me. I own 3. None has had even 400 rounds through it, and the integral bolt rail looks like a mile of bad railroad track in all of them. Mike
    I would include the "updated" 7400 and Model 4 in that group as well

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  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Moderator Posts: 28,117 Senior Member
    The Winchester Model 88 (lever action) was an immediate classic that continues to appreciate in value and delight it’s owners.  It’s brother, the semi-auto Model 100 was a fragile and finicky eater that can be found cheap all over the place...
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  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 1,024 Senior Member
    My wife's Savage 64 Jam'Omatic has got to be a contender.  It is so bad that we don't even bother to take it to the range anymore.  Worst $130 we have ever spent on a firearm.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 4,284 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    Remington 742. Why anyone would design a rifle that self destructs with relatively little firing is beyond me. I own 3. None has had even 400 rounds through it, and the integral bolt rail looks like a mile of bad railroad track in all of them. Mike
    I would include the "updated" 7400 and Model 4 in that group as well

    I'd heard the 7400 wasn't much of an improvement, but I've never handled one.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 24,173 Senior Member
    I have a Remington 742 and a Remington 7400. They both shoot all right and never had any problems with them, but they are the devil on the receiver parts. And the bolt lugs gouge the locking lugs. Biggest problem I can see with them is that they are WAY overgassed, and that makes the action get slammed like a high speed wreck every time you pull the trigger.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,806 Senior Member
    My buddy back a long time ago had a 742 and killed a lot of deer with it.  He was a southpaw and couldn't use a bolt gun.  It was the Redneck Special: 30-06, 3x9 Redfield, see-through mounts.  Come deer season, my local gunsmith stays busy fixing them.
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  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 1,788 Senior Member
    Yep, I bought a Rem 597 when they first came out thinking it's a Remington, must be at least decent. 

    Rifle led was garbage. One of the few firearms I've gotten rid of over the years. 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,400 Senior Member
    Not a rifle but Savage used to make a humpback autoloader in an attempt to compete with the A5....every one I have ever seen was cracked through the receiver....
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,610 Senior Member
    Wasn't it the Ruger Deerfield .44 magnum that was so stupidly designed that it had to come with a leather shroud to go around your scope to protect it from elected shells banging into it. It went out of production somewhat quickly as I recall. 
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 2,474 Senior Member
    horselips said:
    Wasn't it the Ruger Deerfield .44 magnum that was so stupidly designed that it had to come with a leather shroud to go around your scope to protect it from elected shells banging into it. It went out of production somewhat quickly as I recall. 
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,623 Senior Member
    My 1990s made Ranch Rifle/14 in .223/5.56 dings brass pretty good where it hits the scope. 
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,568 Senior Member
    Remington 770!
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,449 Senior Member
    Mossberg made a lever action, 835 IIRC, that was a great waste of money. No built well and prone to jamming.
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  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,449 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    What was that Rem .22 auto that WMG and others said was a POS????
    Yep, 597.

    Most frustrating rifle I ever had.
  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,548 Senior Member
    My 597 isn't that bad. The mags suck though. I may be partial to it, first gun the wife bought me nearly 30 years ago mow.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,806 Senior Member
    i don't think i've ever had a bad rifle.  I can't remember one I've regretted owning, at least.  Maybe a .41 Swiss rimfire, which I never shot and gave away.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,745 Senior Member
    edited June 29 #31
    Taurus makes a copy of the old Colt Lightning in 357 mag and 45 Colt. Jut saying. 


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