PA 63

FreezerFreezer Senior MemberPosts: 1,391 Senior Member
I finally made it to the range yesterday to tune up my PA 63. I had bought the spring tune up kits from Wolfe and they are worth it. I had bought this piece for camping and in my motor home vs my more expensive Smith or Ruger. These aluminum frame pistols have a snappy recoil and heavy stock trigger making it no fun to shoot. I had bought bulk Chinese ammo and found this gun painful to shoot. I tried to tune it up then but the reduced hammer spring was to weak for the hard primers in the junk ammo. Later I bought better ammo but never spent any time with his gun.

Yesterday I installed a 15lb recoil spring and 9lb hammer spring and headed to the range. First I tried Blazer ammo and wasn't impressed. Out of 25 rounds I had 2 FTFs that took more than one strike to fire and the action didn't close completely. I also had a few of the Chinese rounds left and had the same results. I applied a film of grease to the slide rail an and the action worked better. Next I tried Fiocchi, Hornady, and Winchester ammo. All three functioned perfectly. The trigger is now tolerable and the recoil has been reduced to the point where I like shooting this little piece. The sights are rudimentary and hard to use with bifocals but I kept a 4" group at 15 yards with all three of the later brands of ammo.

I have a Galco OSWB holster and an ISWB holster that I tried yesterday. Both are very comfortable and conceal this piece very well. With the new springs this will be a nice alternative to my NAA Guardian. My suggestion to anyone that has a similar pistol, get the spring kits from Wolfe! They greatly improve how these pistols shoot and handle.


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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 17,293 Senior Member
    Those are sort of a PP/PPK sized MAK, correct?

    If so, glad it works for you. With my ham hands, the slide digs "RR tracks" across the web of my hand
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 1,261 Senior Member
    If the slide is steel, good lube on the rails is probly important.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,515 Senior Member
    Except an alloy frame.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,391 Senior Member
    Aluminum alloy frame, steel slide, thin & light. The PA63 is a cross between a Makarov and Walther PPK.  The 9 Mak cartridge fits between the 380 and 9 Luger. Between that and it's light weight the recoil in the web of your hand was bad. I had just replaced the front end of my P/U and used a little grease from it to cure the slide problem. When I got home I cleaned it well and use a good gun grease.

    I've used Wolfe springs in my Ruger Super Black Hawks, Security Six and Single Six with great results. The Makarov pistols I've handled could sure use new springs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEG_PA-63
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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,143 Senior Member
    I have some of that 9x18 Chinese ammo and yes it hurts like he'll out of my P60.  Hornaday works well and doesn't hurt near as much.
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,391 Senior Member
    P60? 
    If your pistol can shoot that hard primer Chinese ammo you may be able to improve the trigger with a lighter hammer spring.


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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,515 Senior Member
    I kinda want a Nabakov, but have a PPK-s and can't justify buying one.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 9,515 Senior Member
    Make that a Marakov...Nabakov was a Russian writer.
    Not too many problems you can't fix
    With a 1911 and a 30-06
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,668 Senior Member
    I had one. Fun little gun, it does kick pretty quickly, so be ready, but not unmanageable. I got rid of mine as it refused to feed hollowpoints, and I didn't feel like working on the gun. Once in SA mode, it's really joy to shoot and mine was pretty accurate. 
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  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,637 Senior Member
    I really like my PA63 for accuracy and lighter weight.  I shot an amazing 25 yard group with mine from a bench, indoors.  I still prefer the all steel Makarov.

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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 31,414 Senior Member
    My P-64 is a little hard on my finger under the trigger guard. I put a spring kit in it and it's much mo better trigger pull than it came. It is steel and I like that.

    My CZ 82 12 shot 9X18 Mak is a dream to shoot in comparison.

    Funny how the compact more powerful 9mms like my LC9s has less felt recoil than a lessor caliber like the 9X18 Mak outta some pistols. Must be the design/ergonomics of the pistols.  I guess the same could be said for many .380s, I don't own one, though.

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  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,143 Senior Member
    Freezer said:
    P60? 
    If your pistol can shoot that hard primer Chinese ammo you may be able to improve the trigger with a lighter hammer spring.


    Sorry P 64
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,255 Senior Member
    Big Chief said:
    My P-64 is a little hard on my finger under the trigger guard. I put a spring kit in it and it's much mo better trigger pull than it came. It is steel and I like that.

    My CZ 82 12 shot 9X18 Mak is a dream to shoot in comparison.

     

    I agree.  The CZ is the best of the com-block 9x18s
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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,391 Senior Member
    I bought this as an OS gun for the motor home when I lived in Kaliforniastan. Its light thin, cancellable,I have  couple holsters for it, I own it, and I like tinkering. My point is, for a very few bucks you can make a big difference in a pistol that will shoot that hard primer Chinese ammo and its not hard to do. The new recoil spring has not only cut the recoil but will reduce the ware on the frame. I've adjusted many a hand gun trigger with new springs and tuned a couple rifles and shotguns. Lawyers are the bane of a good trigger.

    One that may surprise you is a Rem 7600 chambered in 280 Rem that I bought for my son. Those rifles use a trigger similar to a shotgun trigger. For $100 I sent it out and had it adjusted. Its not a target trigger but its not bad. 
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