Are Y'all as sick of Chucky Schumer as me?

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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,930 Senior Member
    I've said this all along, a great oriator his is not. He talks on an elementary level, he repeats himself continuously, Melania needs to hide his phone so he'll quit his stupid tweeting, and he needs to learn to say we instead of I. If Im in his church I don't think I'd appoint him Sunday School Teacher however fluent in Sailor language he may be.

    BUT, he's doing what I voted for him for. And if he'd have a little cooperation from his party he would probably tweet less and maybe even shut up on occasion. And yes, I will definitely vote for him again in 2020.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Now try to understand that while Trump was giving those political donations in an effort to line his own pockets, Schumer, Clinton, Weiner, and all the other pukes he helped to elect and keep power were passing some really stupid legislation and trying to take away our guns. In other words, his greed came before his country. Lots of you want to pass that off as "just business" but look at the consequences.
    You're saying much the same thing I did. And yes, Trump supported and donated money to the campaigns of those people FOR THE SAME REASON you place your money on the highest probable winner at the horse and dog tracks. You don't place money on the horse or dog that has no possible chance of coming in first. And the people he donated to that won now had an obligation to help him, as in 'you dance with the one that brung ya to the dance.' This is NOT a new concept; politicians have been being bough off since the first ever election was held by cavemen.
    Charles and David Koch seem to do just fine without having to support liberals and gun grabbers. David Koch is also a resident of NYC. I am calling bull crap. 
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,185 Senior Member
    Charles and David Koch seem to do just fine without having to support liberals and gun grabbers. David Koch is also a resident of NYC. I am calling bull crap. 
    You should do a little more research on the Koch brother's political donations. They have supported both sides of the fence, depending who is most 'receptive' to being kind to big donors. And they DID NOT support Trump in 2016.

    http://fortune.com/2016/10/16/koch-brothers-gop-senate/?iid=sr-link5

    http://fortune.com/2016/03/03/koch-brothers-donald-trump/?iid=leftrail

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/29/koch-political-network-spending/




    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    edited July 2018 #35
    tennmike said:
    You should do a little more research on the Koch brother's political donations. They have supported both sides of the fence, depending who is most 'receptive' to being kind to big donors. And they DID NOT support Trump in 2016.

    http://fortune.com/2016/10/16/koch-brothers-gop-senate/?iid=sr-link5

    http://fortune.com/2016/03/03/koch-brothers-donald-trump/?iid=leftrail

    http://fortune.com/2017/01/29/koch-political-network-spending/




    Not supporting Trump doesn't mean someone is liberal. They had their reasons just like I did. Besides, them and I lean toward libertarianism. Nationalistic populism seems to be the exact opposite on multitudes of issues. Even though none of your links show their support for liberals and gun grabbers, the Koch boys have been known to work with politicians and candidates of all walks of life on issues that they believe in. They worked with Obama on trying to get rid of mandatory minimum sentences. They opposed Bush on the ethanol mandates, even though it would have been in their financial interests to support.

    What I do know is that these guys founded the Cato Institute-- the ones behind the Heller decision. If you go to their site right now, tell me what you see first thing....

    What did the horses Trump bet on get us? Gun ban legislation, Cash for Cars, Dodd/Frank, and Obamacare.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,185 Senior Member
    Holey Mother of Pearl, Jerm! If you were a billionaire businessman and had to support a politician, would you support a probable winner that would be beholden to you if you won, or a fruitbat loser that couldn't get elected as dead animal on the street picker upper? Seriously. If you aren't going to make the donation to the probable winner then you're just throwing your money away.

    The Koch brothers are pretty squishy on the Second Amendment, too.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4946426/Las-Vegas-shooting-Sunrise-David-Koch-slams-gun-lobbyist.html

    They are also semi supporters of Trump as a matter of convenience and Trump being semi Libertarian. They'll drop him like a hot horseshoe if he goes against them on things they like.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/koch-brothers-trump-libertarian-overlap/


    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,185 Senior Member
    And to your question about the first thing on the Cato institute website:

    https://www.cato.org/
    The first link goes against what they ( Koch's) had to say about the 2nd Amendment with the above link to the daily mail.

    Losing Count: The Empty Case for “High-Capacity” Magazine Restrictions


    Trump is getting into their hip pockets and raiding their wallets, temporarily, with the trade policy and tariffs. No surprise they'd be pissed about that.

    Trump’s Misguided Trade Policy




    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    edited July 2018 #38
    tennmike said:
    The Koch brothers are pretty squishy on the Second Amendment, too.
    Right name, wrong person. The one you linked is some Australian sheep ****, not the American billionaire.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    And to your question about the first thing on the Cato institute website:

    https://www.cato.org/
    The first link goes against what they ( Koch's) had to say about the 2nd Amendment with the above link to the daily mail.

    Losing Count: The Empty Case for “High-Capacity” Magazine Restrictions


    Trump is getting into their hip pockets and raiding their wallets, temporarily, with the trade policy and tariffs. No surprise they'd be pissed about that.

    Trump’s Misguided Trade Policy




    Trump the "conservative" is to the left of Bernie Sanders on trade. Why would libertarians oppose that?


  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,185 Senior Member

    Trump the "conservative" is to the left of Bernie Sanders on trade. Why would libertarians oppose that?


    Trade is a LOT more complicated than that oversimplified piece of drivel.
    Here's some questions to ponder:
    1. Do the over regulation of businesses, including taxes, and government meddling in business drive manufacturers overseas for cheaper overall costs?
    2. Does the high tax on businesses cause businesses to move overseas to avoid the high U.S. taxes on businesses?
    3. Does the government setting wages cause companies to move offshore to exploit cheaper labor?
    4. Does the heavy handed regulation of the EPA cause businesses to seek friendlier manufacturing opportunities offshore?
    5. Do all the regulations, permitting process, and having to go to multiple government agencies of local, state, and federal level add exorbitant costs to building a new factory?
    6. Regarding the former administration, did their absolute war on new power plants, pipelines, fuel refineries, and existing power plants and pipelines and refineries have anything to do with adding higher unnecessary costs to doing business?

    Bernie has the simple minded ideas of a simple minded political fool that has never worked at a real job for more than a few months and took up politics as a way to make money without working anything but his socialist mouth. Holding him up as the icon of free trade practices is, IN MY OPINION, a very hilarious thing.

    It's like the tariff thing, too. Everybody running around with their hair on fire over placing tariffs on Canadian goods when Canada has been charging exorbitant tariffs on OUR products for a long time. I guess those people running around with their hair on fire like bending over, spreading their cheeks, and getting driven home. Same for those high tariffs on our products exported to all those other countries that place high tariffs on our goods, and we have very LOW tariffs on their goods imported into the U.S. Why people enjoy getting screwed over by other countries in this manner remains a mystery to me, unless those people love S&M and bondage games, too. That is MY OPINION on the whole mess, and it's a freakin' big mess brought to us all by the meddling U.S. government, lobbyists, and greedy politicians bellying up to the trough for their share of the graft and free money slipped under the table.
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    edited July 2018 #41
    ... and none of this shows that it is essential to support liberals and gun grabbers to be a wealthy billionaire. In spite of your links, the Koch brothers have been consistently libertarian since the 1970's and have done very well for themselves without greasing liberal gun grabbing palms. Trump is getting a bad rap from the left by ignoring his contributions to their causes and promoting their agenda. I feel he should get all the credit that he deserves. His gift of Chuck Schumer is one of them.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,744 Senior Member
    Can you imagine what he may accomplish if he was not defending himself against BS charges on a daily basis?  If his words were not twisted or he wasn't quoted, but words left out of the quote?  Heck he says enough off the cuff stuff to keep him in trouble on his own.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,930 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Can you imagine what he may accomplish if he was not defending himself against BS charges on a daily basis?  If his words were not twisted or he wasn't quoted, but words left out of the quote?  Heck he says enough off the cuff stuff to keep him in trouble on his own.
    I say hell with it all, let Trump be Trump!!!
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,429 Senior Member
    Patriotic Americans love to celebrate on the 4th. of July.  I wonder if the politicians with enough intelligence to study history ever get nervous when July 14th. rolls around?  Maybe if we started having our political discussions in French- - - - - - -? 
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,865 Senior Member
    I'm with you Teach!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,429 Senior Member
    Just one slightly different procedure- - - -wood chipper instead of a guillotine- - - - -feet first!
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,081 Senior Member
    snake284 said:
    Every time I look at TV Chuck Schumer is on there lecturing people and Lying his ass off. I wish they could Sensor him. He is such a lying jerk. He has no values or morals. In my opinion he's  a scumbag Political Hack! I really like and respect Putin more. Yep, I said it. I do. Putin can't help what he is. He was raised in the communist Soviet Union and that's what formed his Morals and made him what he is. But if I was in a fox hole I think I'd choose to be with Putin over Schumer.

    What about you? Do some of you feel the same way?
    For a while, I lived in NYC and that douche was my Senator.
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