On paper at 600 yards!

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,732 Senior Member
    edited August 2018 #32
    Nicely done EC

    I'll offer a piece of advice that helped me when I had access to a 500 yard range. Though it wasn't exactly 1,2,3,4,5 it had 100, 200, 300, 360 and 500 berms.

    I assume you have Excel, or a similar program on your computer. Make a chart with the ranges and put the computer estimated come-ups under each yardage. Make another box under each yardage as well.
    Go out and shoot using the estimated come-ups, and when you figure out the differences between theoretical and reality, jot down the actual numbers in the lower box.

    When you get home, change the numbers in the software to match reality, and there you go. A confirmed drop chart for that load, in that rifle at that elevation.

    I actually have a laminated one I made for my Grendel and its favorite load


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  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,980 Senior Member
    Good work!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,732 Senior Member
    knitepoet said:
    Nicely done EC

    I'll offer a piece of advice that helped me when I had access to a 500 yard range. Though it wasn't exactly 1,2,3,4,5 it had 100, 200, 300, 360 and 500 berms.

    I assume you have Excel, or a similar program on your computer. Make a chart with the ranges and put the computer estimated come-ups under each yardage. Make another box under each yardage as well.
    Go out and shoot using the estimated come-ups, and when you figure out the differences between theoretical and reality, jot down the actual numbers in the lower box.

    When you get home, change the numbers in the software to match reality, and there you go. A confirmed drop chart for that load, in that rifle at that elevation.

    I actually have a laminated one I made for my Grendel and its favorite load


    Thanks! I will have to do more work wit it. 
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,732 Senior Member
    Good work!
    Wow! Thanks Ernie. That’s a great compliment. 
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,980 Senior Member
    Elk creek said:
    Good work!
    Wow! Thanks Ernie. That’s a great compliment. 
    Anytime I can encourage distance shooting, I will sure try to.  
    The main thing is getting out there and doing it.
    Having someone who can help/coach/mentor is a great benefit.
    When do you plan to do this again?
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,732 Senior Member
    Elk creek said:
    Good work!
    Wow! Thanks Ernie. That’s a great compliment. 
    Anytime I can encourage distance shooting, I will sure try to.  
    The main thing is getting out there and doing it.
    Having someone who can help/coach/mentor is a great benefit.
    When do you plan to do this again?
    Next week! I  need to prep cases and fine tune my loads. 
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • BAMAAKBAMAAK Senior Member Posts: 4,266 Senior Member
    edited August 2018 #38
    Nicely done.  Never shot that far, don't have the equipment or a nearby range.  What would be the minimum magnification to shoot 600 yds?  I know more is better but quality more is expensive.  I am going down to CMP in Nov and I'd love to try their 600 yd range with my AR a few shots.  I can develop a load at 200 here and try it out further.  Scope is only 1-6 power though.  They have big targets though, like a 4x8 piece of plywood and electronic scoring so you can see your hits right away.  If nothing else I can shoot at 1 or 200 there also.  I've had some luck at 200 with 75 gr matchkings and the glass is plenty clear and bright at that distance.
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,732 Senior Member
    BAMAAK said:
    Nicely done.  Never shot that far, don't have the equipment or a nearby range.  What would be the minimum magnification to shoot 600 yds?  I know more is better but quality more is expensive.  I am going down to CMP in Nov and I'd love to try their 600 yd range with my AR a few shots.  I can develop a load at 200 here and try it out further.  Scope is only 1-6 power though.  They have big targets though, like a 4x8 piece of plywood and electronic scoring so you can see your hits right away.  If nothing else I can shoot at 1 or 200 there also.  I've had some luck at 200 with 75 gr matchkings and the glass is plenty clear and bright at that distance.
    Run what you brung! Try it. You may run out of elevation but give it a whirl!  Most WWII sniper rifles had 3 and 4 power scopes so don’t feel too under scoped. 
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    edited August 2018 #40
    I shoot 1,600 yards with my scope set on 4x. 

    Dont let 6x scare ya. If you can see it, you can hit it. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,832 Senior Member
    Elk creek said:
    Good work!
    Wow! Thanks Ernie. That’s a great compliment. 
    Anytime I can encourage distance shooting, I will sure try to.  
    The main thing is getting out there and doing it.
    Having someone who can help/coach/mentor is a great benefit.
    When do you plan to do this again?
    I just wish I had a range to punch paper out to 500-600 yards. It would be interesting and definitely more fun than a man has a right to have. About all I can do is 200 yards around here.
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,612 Senior Member
    Nice. It would be great to have a few windless days to work out the elevations and get some practice with it, before having to learn the 'magic' parts of hitting small targets at 600 yards (or 300 yards, for that matter).
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 6,980 Senior Member
    snake284 said:
    Elk creek said:
    Good work!
    Wow! Thanks Ernie. That’s a great compliment. 
    Anytime I can encourage distance shooting, I will sure try to.  
    The main thing is getting out there and doing it.
    Having someone who can help/coach/mentor is a great benefit.
    When do you plan to do this again?
    I just wish I had a range to punch paper out to 500-600 yards. It would be interesting and definitely more fun than a man has a right to have. About all I can do is 200 yards around here.
    We travel to do the things we want to do.
    If you want to shoot at some further distances, find out where to go, and go have some fun and learn things :)
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • 41magnut41magnut Senior Member Posts: 1,159 Senior Member
    That is better than just "on Paper".

    That's some good trigger pulling, coached or otherwise.
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  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 5,732 Senior Member
    41magnut said:
    That is better than just "on Paper".

    That's some good trigger pulling, coached or otherwise.

    Thank you! It’s a mental game for sure! 
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
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