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New shotgun: Benelli Super Black Eagle 3

Six-GunSix-Gun Senior MemberPosts: 8,155 Senior Member
Anyone who frequents the hunting forum knows that my old Benelli Super Black Eagle 2 has taken a slew of birds (even deer and coyotes) throughout the years.  But, it was not without its flaws.  Small controls made handling in cold/gloved conditions particularly challenging, and the infamous difficulty in putting the gun back into battery if it got knocked out accordingly.  That usually meant a noisy, full bolt recycle, typically at the worst possible time.  This latter issue was, by far, my biggest gripe.

Enter the Super Black Eagle 3.  The controls were enlarged and the issues with the bolt engagement were solved.  It takes almost no force whatsoever to thumb the gun into battery with the cocking handle ala an AR-15 forward assist, either for quiet loading or simply assuring that it's fully closed.  

With the LGS offering me extremely good trade value for my SBE 2 and a discount on the new SBE 3, it was an easy choice.  I now have a new bird gun.  Kinda sad to see my old gun go.  There are a ton of memories and hunts on it, but the upgrade simply made sense given what bothered me about the previous SBE generation.  Time to make some new memories.


Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.

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  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,112 Senior Member
    Congrats, I suspect in your hand that will slay the birds.

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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,280 Senior Member
    Probly be so many birds in the next pic, the gun will be shadowed into invisibility. Not a bad outcome maybe?
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    I hope it lives up the expectations created by the SBE 2.  Gotta get it patterned with my regular duck loads to ensure that everything looks kosher for the upcoming season.  I also need to shoot it with my scope and turkey loads, and zero it for fall turkey in case they show up in Montana.  
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • ojrojr Senior Member Posts: 1,141 Senior Member
    Nice Gun and with the upgrades should serve you well
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,379 Senior Member
    Nice upgrade. Congrats
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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,862 Senior Member
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,646 Senior Member
    Congrats
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,798 Senior Member
    You suck!

    I've been threatening to buy a Benelli for years, having settled for a Stoeger M-2000, several years ago, which was a good clone of the Montefeltro I liked. I'm sure that the Black Eagle 3 will live up to your expectations. As for me, I guess I'll never buy one unless my dove hunting prospects return to their former glory someday, soon.
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,849 Senior Member
    Nice upgrade. I've been drooling over Benelli guns for awhile, particularly the M2, but don't do enough shot gunning to justify upgrading over my 11-87. 
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    edited August 2018 #11
    Benlli makes a great gun.  That said, while I love inertial operation for reduced weight and ease of cleaning, they do kicked slightly harder than gas guns, which is not for everyone.

    The M2 is a damned fine gun.  I had one before the SBE 2 and poved it.  The patrern with steel and a modified chole was amazing.  

    The only tradeoff with the M2 is the inability to shoot 3.5” shells.  That’s hardly a flaw.  The only reason I even care for 3.5” shell capability is 1) when bumming them off of buddies if I run short if my own and 2) during turkey season when certain 3.5” offerings ust happen to pattern best in my gun.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,954 Senior Member
    Nice upgrade. I've been drooling over Benelli guns for awhile, particularly the M2, but don't do enough shot gunning to justify upgrading over my 11-87. 



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  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,594 Senior Member
    Nice shooter!
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Once you get your foot in the door with a Benelli, you'll find that they hold their value extremely well, even used.  In fact, a used one, while not terribly cheaper than new, could get you there and keep you there.  Then you can trade up as funds allow and technology improvements prove worthy for the leap.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 675 Senior Member
    Nice gun and the action is on the proper side. What choke tubes are you using for turkeys? The absolute best tune I’ve used is a Indian creek on my Benellis. I have shot 4 birds past 60yd with one being 72yd. 
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,932 Senior Member
    Great Score!   You're going to love it!
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,293 Senior Member
    Nice grab...
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Thanks, guys.  I think it will get the job done.  Tomorrow is patterning day.  I will be trying the factory extended modified choke, as well as the Primos Jelly Head extra full to see where the pattern lands relative to bead point of aim.  

    Nice gun and the action is on the proper side. What choke tubes are you using for turkeys? The absolute best tune I’ve used is a Indian creek on my Benellis. I have shot 4 birds past 60yd with one being 72yd. 

    Johnny - 

    Definitely nice to have the action on the correct side.  No way, as a lefty, I would buy anything but a proper handed gun for this kind of purchase.  

    As for turkey, I flex my choke depending on the situation.  In the Spring, when birds can come from anywhere and in any direction, I like the Primos Jelly Head for great patterns using Winchester Long Bird XR.  I usually also scope the gun with a 1x muzzleloader scope when I go that route since patterns can be unforgivingly tight at close range.

    For Fall turkey, when I typically have the birds patterned and know that they are likely to show up closer, I can go as wide as modified to offer more leway.  I either use the factory modified choke or my Patternmaster Code Black Goose choke that's normally a steel shot waterfowl specialist.  It's really just a modified choke with a wad restrictor in it anyway, so if it's in the gun, I can just leave it there for Fall turkey if it patterns well out of this new gun.  
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,879 Senior Member
    Nice shotgun! In Kaliforniastan the SBE was the bench mark for waterfowl shotguns. I've drooled over that and the Vinci for years while swinging my Beretta 390AL. Nice upgrade. Oh do you suck
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    The Benelli SBE line has definitely grown up over the years.  They have also had some growing pains, but they have done an admirable job of correcting things when there have been issues.  The ComfortTech stock was added to the design to correct the excessive felt recoil of the original SBE.  Now they have adapted the bolt locking system from their Ethos line into the latest design to fix the difficult bolt re-engagement  of the SBE and SBE 2.  

    Even within the SBE 3 line, there was an problem with the first round of guns shooting extremely high (like 100% versus a proper 60/40 or 50/50 pattern).  They corrected it at the factory and made good to customers who bought guns that had the issue by fixing it at no cost.  The new ones are working extremely well and should put up another decade or so of performance before being replaced by a newer line.

    Beretta makes the best consumer gas-cycled guns I have ever handled.  It's not a trade in quality, but not a tradeoff in function to shoot one or the other versus a Benelli.  
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 675 Senior Member
    Six gun if that jelly head doesn’t work too well and your in the market I would look at the Indian creek. I didn’t like Winchester turkey loads with that wad stripper choke. It was alright out to abou 35 yards in 3 differnt guns I tried it in. I use the heavy shot magnum blend of 4,5,6s the shot weighs 2.25 in the 3.5s. It is absolutely the best I have found. 
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 675 Senior Member
    Bisley there nothing wrong with a stoger. I've got a m3500 that's been used and abused. It's not a Benelli but for 1/3 the price of a super black eagle, or 1/2 of the super Vinci.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    edited August 2018 #23
    Six gun if that jelly head doesn’t work too well and your in the market I would look at the Indian creek. I didn’t like Winchester turkey loads with that wad stripper choke. It was alright out to abou 35 yards in 3 differnt guns I tried it in. I use the heavy shot magnum blend of 4,5,6s the shot weighs 2.25 in the 3.5s. It is absolutely the best I have found. 
    Johnny - 

    I have heard good things about the Indian Creek chokes.  If the existing chokes I have don't cut it, I may pick one up.  

    The Jelly Head was bought years ago, and I actually shelved it for a long time because, ironically enough, it wouldn't pattern well with Hevi-Shot.  Truth be told, it wasn't the choke.  Unlike a lot of folks, I have not had good luck with Hevi-Shot in a number of different guns, both in 12 GA and 20 GA, using both aftermarket and factory chokes.  Erratic patterns with holes that are too big for my taste have been the norm in my guns/chokes.  I gave it the benefit of the doubt because of the retained energy aspect, but that ended up biting me.  Energy is great, but it has to impact the target effectively to matter.

    The last straw for me with Hevi-Shot came when I took a reasonably long shot at turkey.  The pattern kicked up dust all around the bird, and he ran off.  It was to the point that I literally ran the other direction and went with the uber cheap Remington Nitro Turkey shells because they at least gave me even pellet distribution in my SBE 2 out to 40-50 yards.
      
    Even though I was burned out on pricier shells from my Hevi-Shot experience, I finally pulled the Jelly Head choke back out of the safe to try it with the Winchester Long Beard, 2 oz., #6 - 3.5" shells.  The choke and load ended up performing extremally well with the patterns that inspired confidence out to 40+ yards.  A scope is absolutely essential with this setup because of how tight it is at 20 yards and in.  4 turkeys dropped to that combination this past Spring, the closest of which was 15 yards and the furthest of which was 52 yards.
     
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
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