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Cody Wilson charged with child sex assault

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 12,068 Senior Member
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/austin-man-behind-3d-printed-gun-company-charged-with-child-sex-assault/591851213

In the middle of  the most important 1st and 2nd amendment case in recent history, and he goes online to get a hooker.  What a dumbass way to derail the case, Cody.
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  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,632 Senior Member
    Not specified in the story, but did he know she is a minor?

    I wonder if she portrayed herself as legal age?

    I don't know if that makes any legal difference, but it would make him less of a dirtbag in my estimation. 
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    edited September 2018 #3
    Sugar Daddy .com?
    Really?

    I think the whole dam world has lost its mind.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Man, what an idiotic bonehead move. If he just needed a hookup then the local bars are usually well stocked, and they're legal age. Definitely doesn't help his 1st and 2nd Amendment case, at all.
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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    Not specified in the story, but did he know she is a minor?

    I wonder if she portrayed herself as legal age?

    I don't know if that makes any legal difference, but it would make him less of a dirtbag in my estimation. 
    The article says she's 16. The unnamed officer said "if anyone saw the victim they'd think she was younger than her age." So, they are speculating what Wilson was thinking. 

    Anyone remember Mike Sackett? He was convicted of a sex crime after he beat the EPA in a SCOTUS case. 

    Seems to be a pattern forming...

    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,275 Senior Member
    Don't go walking in minefields. I see your point Cali with the Govt. posing as young women for hire, but it is hard to feel sorry for either of them.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 25,032 Senior Member

    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,068 Senior Member
    One news site checked the website he used, and it does require you to be at least 18 to sign up.

    but he is still an idiot for looking for hookers online.  He should know he has a huge target on his back, and not to open himself up like that
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    Cody has short eyes.  You visit pedophile websites you get what you deserve.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    If he met a woman on line, she was 16 years old, they had sex soon after they met and he paid her $500, she's a hooker.  How does that NOT meet the definition of a prostitute?
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    Well,
    Until he's actually convicted, he's only guilty of shopping for children to molest.


  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    I thought that was called marriage.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,068 Senior Member
    I thought that was called marriage.
    For the win.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,068 Senior Member
    BTW, hiding out in Taiwan where there is no extradition is NOT an effective way to protest innocence.

    boy, this guy is turning out to be a total tool
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Gene L said:
    If he met a woman on line, she was 16 years old, they had sex soon after they met and he paid her $500, she's a hooker.  How does that NOT meet the definition of a prostitute?
    What Alpha said is what’s known as sarcasm. 
    OK.  Sources of sarcasm from Alpha are rare and as dry as the Sahara.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,886 Senior Member
    Not really. Most just don't pick up on it.
    I'm just here for snark.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Was her name Loose Lucy?
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Don't go walking in minefields. I see your point Cali with the Govt. posing as young women for hire, but it is hard to feel sorry for either of them.
    I don't feel sorry for them. I'm merely suggesting they beat the government and were targeted by the same government. Funny how everyone says elected officials lie about everything, buy believe everything other government employees say. This entire case is built around one girl's statements. The article says "she says he paid her, she says he assaulted her, she says stuff Wilson said". The web site is for 18 and over. Plenty of circumstantial evidence to think he was looking for an adult hook-up, albeit a young adult. 

    Sorry guys, I'm not giving any credibility to APD when there are guns rights activists involved.   
    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 16,244 Senior Member
    16 years old? In Alabama, the Republicans would try to make him a senator.
    Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
    -Thomas Paine
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    CaliFFL said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Don't go walking in minefields. I see your point Cali with the Govt. posing as young women for hire, but it is hard to feel sorry for either of them.
    I don't feel sorry for them. I'm merely suggesting they beat the government and were targeted by the same government. Funny how everyone says elected officials lie about everything, buy believe everything other government employees say. This entire case is built around one girl's statements. The article says "she says he paid her, she says he assaulted her, she says stuff Wilson said". The web site is for 18 and over. Plenty of circumstantial evidence to think he was looking for an adult hook-up, albeit a young adult. 

    Sorry guys, I'm not giving any credibility to APD when there are guns rights activists involved.   
    I would be interested in seeing your defense of an adult male who has sex with a 16 year old, pays her 500 bucks, and (in your opinion) is the target of a government conspiracy. There is apparently no screening for 18 year olds except to state you are in registering. Which she apparently lied.  Maybe he should have printed a sex partner...of a blow up sex dummy.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    BTW, hiding out in Taiwan where there is no extradition is NOT an effective way to protest innocence.

    boy, this guy is turning out to be a total tool

    I have found that highly intelligent people are not necessarily smart.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Common sense and good judgement isn't so common anymore. Cody seems to lack that common sense ability.
    Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of experience comes from bad judgement. Looks like Cody is getting a whole lot of experience from a series of bad judgements.
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  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    I haven’t any clue who this guy is or what he did with a court case, but could it be a guy getting framed by a vengeful government agency? 
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I haven’t any clue who this guy is or what he did with a court case, but could it be a guy getting framed by a vengeful government agency? 
    It's possible and highly probable. The government has been doing that since long before I was born. And it has had a trickle down effect. Cops put female cops dressed as hookers out on streets frequented by hookers. They get the 'customers' to solicit their services, and then arrest them for various crimes. Seems like entrapment at best. And why aren't the female cops dressed as hookers arrested for solicitation of an illegal act? If prostitution is illegal, aren't they actively engaged in the business?
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 25,032 Senior Member

    That said I fully support the complete legalization and regulation of all forms of prostitution. People should be able to sell their own bodies to others if they so choose in whatever manner they want. It's not like a large percentage of sex isnt transactional in some way shape or form. It's never really "free". 
    Yep.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    So you're saying he's falsely accused?
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    So you're saying he's falsely accused?
    Unless you have incontrovertible proof, have held the trial by a jury of his peers, and they have returned a guilty verdict, then YES, he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Being a former cop, I'd think you'd know this simple concept of the law.

    A refresher, in case you forgot:
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/presumption_of_innocence

    Definition from Nolo’s Plain-English Law Dictionary

    One of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. In other words, the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, each essential element of the crime charged.

    Have you set yourself up as judge, jury and executioner?



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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,615 Senior Member
    Being innocent until proven guilty is not the same as being falsely accused.  You should know that.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    I would be interested in seeing your defense of an adult male who has sex with a 16 year old, pays her 500 bucks, and (in your opinion) is the target of a government conspiracy. There is apparently no screening for 18 year olds except to state you are in registering. Which she apparently lied.  Maybe he should have printed a sex partner...of a blow up sex dummy.

    Gene L said:
    Being innocent until proven guilty is not the same as being falsely accused.  You should know that.
    Not allegedly had sex with a 16 year old, and paid her 500 bucks, but HAS sex with a 16 year old, and paid her 500 bucks. From the statement you made I can only conclude that you believe him guilty before he's had a trial by a jury of his peers since you didn't give him the benefit of the 'innocent until proven guilty' part of the law.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 5,486 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    So you're saying he's falsely accused?

    Jesus, Gene. I said I hope YOU are never falsely (I'll add plain old accused) accused and have to face a jury made of people like you. Full stop. 

    When our governing officials dismiss due process as mere semantics, when they exercise powers they don’t have and ignore duties they actually bear, and when we let them get away with it, we have ceased to be our own rulers.

    Adam J. McCleod


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